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Post by Daio Kaji » Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:54 am

guestuser wrote:...it is a fast computer so file transfre is quick. i told him to give all of u a good vid of mine if u IM him. his screen name is zack163
maybe i'm just getting on the flame-wagon (all-aboard!!)
but he does mean his cousin has a fast internet connection, doesn't he? cause his computer can be faster than the dickens (i've never met the Dickens, so i can't confirm this claim of high speed) but if he has a 14.4k connection, i don't think that will be fun to dl...
:idea: OR WILL IT!?!? [scrambles to try]
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Post by Nemoxs » Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:59 am

Daio Kaji wrote:
guestuser wrote:...it is a fast computer so file transfre is quick. i told him to give all of u a good vid of mine if u IM him. his screen name is zack163
maybe i'm just getting on the flame-wagon (all-aboard!!)
but he does mean his cousin has a fast internet connection, doesn't he? cause his computer can be faster than the dickens (i've never met the Dickens, so i can't confirm this claim of high speed) but if he has a 14.4k connection, i don't think that will be fun to dl...
:idea: OR WILL IT!?!? [scrambles to try]

It's a cable btw, and I'm talking to his cousin right now,
He's not a bad guy at all... atleast he can spell.

By the way, the video blows... Horribly, normaly I dont insult people like this, but he REALLY pissed me off.

It sucks... I mean worse than Pre-newbie Linkinballz stuff.

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Post by Pie Row Maniac » Tue Dec 02, 2003 2:44 am

Thoughts on Your Halo Video
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Originality is low; while Halo is rarely used, the idea of just making an action video because it would be cool is ancient.
Video Quality is decent; could be better, but good enough to see what's going on.
Audio Sync is so-so; scene changes during major points in the song are the only thing keep this category from truly suffering.
Effort is low; recording yourself playing a game and editing to a small extent doesn't make this look like you put much thought into it.

To answer your original question again, there are lots of factors that comply with us complaining about videos and them taking so long to make:
1 ) Work
2 ) School, as well as homework
3 ) Social life
4 ) Thinking of how to make the video work (clip choice/placement, effects and/or editing style that will get your message or idea across, etc)
5 ) Lack of source footage
6 ) The amount of time it takes to pull off certain time-consuming effects or visual tricks (Photoshopping, frame-by-frame editing, etc)
7 ) Deadlines; when a video might need to be turned in on a certain date, we sometimes have to rush our asses off to get it done on time. This can be the fault of us for being lazy or any of the reasons listed above, or possibly the fault of the project's leader for making the deadline close.
8 ) Sleep, or lack thereof


In other words, some videos aren't as easy to make as your Halo video. I recommend taking a look at Vlad Pohnert's "Memories Dance" to see how more effort and more time can really contribute to making a video worthwhile.
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Re: why do you guys act like its so hard to do?

Post by CaTaClYsM » Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:05 am

guestuser wrote:whay do you guys act like is -soooooo- hard to make good amvs? like all you do is put it togdther and add in the effects! peoplle say like it took tham like a month to make one of the fancy looking ones like that Uphoria one thats #1 on the site. YOU CAN MAKE THAT IN LIKE 3 HOURS! and if you cant then ur just plkain dumb. i mad a thing better than any amv its a HMV thets Halo Music Video! its footage of 4-player split-screen multiplayer games of halo with cool music and its better than anything on this site! if it takes you a month to make a amv then ur stupid or have a super bad coputer


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Go and replicate Euphoria within 3 hours. Hey, since it scenes and effects are already preselected you should be able to get it done in 1.5 hours, not 3.
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Post by Onideus_Mad_Hatter » Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:40 am

I'm gonna record myself playing crappy video games and then make a music video out of it, YA!

Heh...in some respects it might very well be possible to slap an AMV together in a few hours, but not if:

A: You wanna actually put some thought and creativity into it

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B: You don't want to do any fancy editing (head motion lip synch, etc)

Personally I usually think about my AMVs for quite literaly MONTHS before I make them, edit them out in my head, that sort of thing. Even my videos that only took me a day or so to make, I still spent quite a bit of time thinking them over in my head. I also create varying versions of my AMVs, like how "Twist Of" is actually sort of a remake of "Plenipotentiary". And at some point here soon I'm going to release a remake of "An Angel Soaked With Tears" Which, while not having any ground breaking new effects, will be 10 times as gut wrenchingly sad and depressing as the current version (it'll also cover both songs):

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... php?v=6687

^_^

Anyway, and this all goes back to that whole spiel of time+effort=quality, you simply cannot make a high end AMV (meaning an AMV with intricately designed and executed effects) in just a few hours. You might be able to make a simplistic AMV, using nothing but simple splicing, and it might even be pretty good...but it could ALWAYS be better.

Take ADs AMV that he/she made in just one morning, that "Storytelling" one. It was like that, simple in form and design...but it could have been made a LOT better. For instance I think it would have been really cool to somehow animate the text letters onto the video like leaves blowing in the wind, being blown into the screen (really would have added to the whole effect). You could even take it a step further and make it so that when the individual characters "blew" into their set positions it would coincide with the piano strikes in the music. Now of course doing something like that might take a person a good month (especially if it's their first time attempting such an endeavor), but the final result will be nothing short of stunning.

Most people, if they're good artists and have the clips on hand and ready to go can put together a good AMV in a few hours...but it will never be a truly magnificant, breathtaking and groundbreaking AMV.

...although one thing to keep in mind is people's basis of comparison. Our dribbling little friend here who keeps touting his Halo AMV probably hasn't actually even seen ANY of ours...especially if he's on such a slow connection (as he claims), so personally it's not that unusual to see him spout of such blatant ignorance. If he actually saw some of the high end AMVs he would probably realize just how far out of his league he is and would shut up...although that's giving him enough credit to say that he's not just a very poor trollie. Personally, I'm voting on the later.
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Post by kthulhu » Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:00 am

CaTaClYsM wrote:Jolt owns you. :?
So true. The store I used to buy it at doesn't seem to be replenishing their stock, as of late :cry: .

I had a pastrami on rye sandwich for dinner, with a cinnamon roll and some "borrowed" bottles of juice to accompany it. Food tastes best when it isn't lonely, after all.
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Post by CaTaClYsM » Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:04 am

Oh I can top that. Glass bottled Coke. I found a place that sold it. It was the last case, and it tasted like the nectar of the GODS! Then I went back (since it was a local store) they never had it again, I'm on month two and counting that I havent seen them restock it. Trust me, even if you don't like coke, you'd like this stuff.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab

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Post by CaTaClYsM » Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:07 am

And for those of you that don't believe me...


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The camera stinks but you can still clearly make out the logo that clearly spells "Bliss".
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab

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Post by kthulhu » Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:14 am

There are glass "holiday" bottles of it out here. And I've seen the generic glass Coke, too.
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Post by Garylisk » Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:41 am

I don't take long to makje my vids, actual work time wise. I just procrastinate a lot. Still not done with my new vid :P

Also, I think this thread is funny. The guy who made it had hsi sig with his AIM name and email, plus a taunt, just so people would flame him. I laughed just from that ;)

Admittedly, I haven't read the whole thread, but I think it's very funny, and hope it keeps going just for the sake of that.
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