Anime Music videos.. They all suck... AND IT'S YOUR FALT!

[azulmagia]

Give the link you mother fucker! >.<

ROTFLMFAO x2

[Arigatomina]

I just don't see a reason to add to a pile of crap thats ALREADY overfilling with peopl actually TRYING to make good videos, but fail (perhaps me? dunno, dun' care).

There's your reason. The ones doing it "actually TRYING to make good videos, but" failing - don't know it and don't care because they, like you, think their vids are good. Why ask if you know the reason?

[Nemoxs]

I just don't see a reason to add to a pile of crap thats ALREADY overfilling with peopl actually TRYING to make good videos, but fail (perhaps me? dunno, dun' care).

There's your reason. The ones doing it "actually TRYING to make good videos, but" failing - don't know it and don't care because they, like you, think their vids are good. Why ask if you know the reason?

No no, the point I was making is, atleast I dont pass my crappy videos off as trying to make a statement or "art".

[Nemoxs]

Didn't you leave?

For a while. Came back (just like I said I was going to), End of story.

[VegettoEX]

Ok so reguardless of what you might expect me to bring up in this
topic, let me outline this, so you can be on your way if you dont
wanna listen.

1.(some)DRAGONBALLZ MUSIC VIDEOS SUCK.

2.BUT IT'S ON PURPOSE.

3.THAT'S ALL YOUR FALT YOU BASTARDS.

K.

Now perhaps I should clear the air here, the videos that suck do NOT
include "Fathers and sons", "This is Dbz Life", and(/or) "Traces of
Insanity" (which still blows, but has a unique premise), AND! some
videos that I have not seen, probably dont suck :P.

Why do you make it a point to single out a video that you dislike, when you're talking about videos that shouldn't be included in the "suck" category? While we're at it, what are you so against in "Traces of Insanity" ? Not that I honestly, deep-down care what you think of the video to the point where I'm going to cry like a school-girl, but I'm honestly confused as to why you would like both "This is DBZ Life" and "Fathers and Sons," and at the same time dislike "Traces of Insanity." What does it for you in that video that puts you off?

How about those bastards that make videos crappy, because it simblizes
a point?

Because name-calling is cool.

Okay first, either the point is you're too damn lazy to make a good
Dragonballz video, and(/or) at some point, someone thought it would be
cute to make a Dragonballz video, then they relized it was HORRIBLE,
and therefore came up with the idea (or perhaps ripped it off of the
MANY horrible videos, purposly made horrible) to "Ingeniously" make a
statement with these videos.

I think you're forgetting a few videos. While you're doing this whole "hating" thing, make sure you drop NPC3000 a line for "<A HREF="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... 26076">The Most Pretentious Dragonball Z Video Ever</A>," and jbone for his "<A HREF="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... v=16502">A Reely Reely Bad DEE BEE ZEE Video...oh...h!</A>" ?

What... And... Why... The... Hell...

As in:

What the hell where you thinking?
Why the hell where you thinking it?
And Why the hell does everyone else have the same Idea?

Why can't people do what they want to do? This is a hobby, and we're all allowed to do whatever we want to do without Nemoxs telling us what is and isn't OK to make for a video.

Maybe someone wants to make a statement. Maybe someone is having fun making a really stupid video. Maybe someone just likes the footage and enjoys working with it. Maybe someone's drunk.

People have made romance videos before. Doesn't stop people from continuing to make them. Scott did <I>Gundam</I> to "AM-3P"... why did YOU decide to do a <I>Gundam</I> to "AM-3P" video? Isn't that "the same idea" ? Sounds just a little hypocritical.

It seems all the rage now to make a video that sucks, perhaps this is,
a form of art, or perhaps this is what I would like to call.. denying
yourself the truth (That you suck?).

Your sense of what's the "rage" now is limited by the short amount of time you've actually been DOING this. People have been making parody videos about other videos and styles of videos for quite some time (there's been a little discussion about videos about making videos over in <A HREF="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... 5484">this thread</A>).

Because you've only been a member for a short time, and because you're mostly interested in <I>DragonBall</I>, this is the only score of things you're allowing yourself to see. No matter what you try to convince yourself otherwise, you're unintentionally biased based solely on how LITTLE TIME you've been at this hobby.

I've been doing it for three years, so that's my scope. I've seen some things going on as "trends," but I can't speak of them as "trends" in the long-run (say, 10 years) because I don't have personal first-hand experience at it. Therefore, I don't talk out of my ass and proclaim I know everything that's going on concerning long-term "trends."

I'm really not asking that people dont make Dragonballz videos, all
I'm asking is that people cool off making purposly BAD (sometimes
HORRIBLE) videos, and calling it art (or in some cases, a statement).

Who are you to tell anyone what they can and cannot make?

Oh, right. You're not. And neither is anyone else.

Really, with all these bad video's, All I see happening, is people
take some of these videos seriously, get pissed off, stops watching
Dragonball (in general), and it eventually leads to a colapse of the
entire fanbase (not like it hasnt been happening :P, we dont need it
rushed).

You fail to realize that while there's a lot of <I>DragonBall</I> videos, it's hardly the "biggest thing going in AMVs" to the point of it collapsing the entire fanbase. Not to mention that not all DBZ fans are into AMVs, in the first place.

A few bad videos aren't going to destroy people. I haven't stopped watching and loving <I>Rurouni Kenshin</I>, despite all the horrible videos I've seen to it.

When I made my video, I took all responisiblity with it being bad (or
good).
Maybe everyone else should do the same?

Not everyone is you. Deal.

Video(s?) that qustion, "Why the hell am I watching this?" (if the
creator, ACTUALLY intended it to be bad),

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... hp?v=27150
- VegettoEX "Pretentious DBZ Action Video"

You're quite the fairweather AMV fan.

And for the sake of consitancy (even though I might get flamed for it,
or have it called a bad video, just to hurt my feelings? *Shrugs*)

My video,

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... hp?v=23403
- Nemoxs "B4u Die"

That served no purpose other than to get people to watch your video.

In Closing I'd like to add, all you creators out there who are making
these bad videos (that just, have no rightfull reason) I have nothing
against you, really I dont.

Except that you do, as you've outlined earlier.

I just don't see a reason to add to a pile of crap thats ALREADY
overfilling with peopl actually TRYING to make good videos, but fail
(perhaps me? dunno, dun' care).

People can and will make what they want, despite what Jacob thinks. Sorry.

These where my thoughts, that I felt I wanted to get out in a public
way, so that maybe some creator might see it, and PERHAPS be
discouraged at doing it again (actually I might have just ENCOURAGED
about 10 or 15 people :\ ).

Thank you for discouraging people from potentially doing what they want to do in this free world. It's people like you that obviously make our hobby a better place, because you clearly know SO much about others' intentions and artwork. At least we have one golden crusader.

LaTeZ~

[HeartbreakerByZep]

What the heck?? There are a lot of reppetative DBZ videos, but if it's hurting the fanbase that's jut hilariously pathetic.

[Rozard]

[Nemoxs]

K.

Ok.

Why do you make it a point to single out a video that you dislike, when you're talking about videos that shouldn't be included in the "suck" category? While we're at it, what are you so against in "Traces of Insanity" ? Not that I honestly, deep-down care what you think of the video to the point where I'm going to cry like a school-girl, but I'm honestly confused as to why you would like both "This is DBZ Life" and "Fathers and Sons," and at the same time dislike "Traces of Insanity." What does it for you in that video that puts you off?

It was just a random statement in my mind, which is why it's in parenthese.

And as for the fact of Meri's video,

I don't know why I don't like it all too much, perhaps the quailty of the footage is alot of the turnoff, and the overall fact that some of the scenes could have been better done (him standing on the ledge while an image shadows over him), I'm not whining that it isnt a GOOD video,

It has an insanly unique and great premise (which is why it's included in my GOOD videos section, because that shit is hard to find in a dragonballz video, MUCH LESS a linkin park DBZ video).

Because name-calling is cool.

Because over the years I've developed a habit of cursing quite a bit.

I think you're forgetting a few videos. While you're doing this whole "hating" thing, make sure you drop NPC3000 a line for "<A HREF="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... 26076">The Most Pretentious Dragonball Z Video Ever</A>," and jbone for his "<A HREF="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... v=16502">A Reely Reely Bad DEE BEE ZEE Video...oh...h!</A>" ?

Yes I know, don't forget DCD'S recently released video about Movie 4, I didnt have the space to name EVERYTHING EX, it was an overly long artical at that.

Why can't people do what they want to do? This is a hobby, and we're all allowed to do whatever we want to do without Nemoxs telling us what is and isn't OK to make for a video.

Maybe someone wants to make a statement. Maybe someone is having fun making a really stupid video. Maybe someone just likes the footage and enjoys working with it. Maybe someone's drunk.

People have made romance videos before. Doesn't stop people from continuing to make them. Scott did <I>Gundam</I> to "AM-3P"... why did YOU decide to do a <I>Gundam</I> to "AM-3P" video? Isn't that "the same idea" ? Sounds just a little hypocritical.

1. Three diffrent gundam series,
2. my song was edited,
3. Maybe it is a bit hypocritical, isnt that the point of becoming a better creator? to relize the mistakes you might have made in the past?

And anyway, I'm not really MAKING people stop making videos like this, I'm simply expressing a feeling I have about this certain form of video (much like people do about effects heavy videos), It's an artical about me, having a certain dislike for this type of video.

Your sense of what's the "rage" now is limited by the short amount of time you've actually been DOING this. People have been making parody videos about other videos and styles of videos for quite some time (there's been a little discussion about videos about making videos over in <A HREF="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... 5484">this thread</A>).

Because you've only been a member for a short time, and because you're mostly interested in <I>DragonBall</I>, this is the only score of things you're allowing yourself to see. No matter what you try to convince yourself otherwise, you're unintentionally biased based solely on how LITTLE TIME you've been at this hobby.

I've been doing it for three years, so that's my scope. I've seen some things going on as "trends," but I can't speak of them as "trends" in the long-run (say, 10 years) because I don't have personal first-hand experience at it. Therefore, I don't talk out of my ass and proclaim I know everything that's going on concerning long-term "trends."

And I've been doing this for about 6 years, yes you people see alot of people as "newbies" but we're all not particularly as "newbish" as you think.

So yes, when I say this in this artical, I might not be speaking from the "Org's" complete point of view, because quite frankly, it's just me writing this,

When I wrote this, I didn ask the other members, "hey do you think im right?" NO! because I wrote this from my point of view.

Who are you to tell anyone what they can and cannot make?

Oh, right. You're not. And neither is anyone else.

Who are you to judge me from your "expertise" fuck you, frankly im getting really pissed off at you,

And I'm sure you just don't give a fuck.

But frankly Fuck you EX, you just piss me off, you're a jerk off who thinks all I do is stalk him, YOU ANWSERED A THEAD THAT I WROTE.

Stop thinking im stalking you.

Quote from Alt.Fan.Dragonball - VegettoEX

"*zips off in a blast of lightning, counting the number of places Nemo has
stalked him to*"

So just stop it, stop being a jackass to me.

You fail to realize that while there's a lot of <I>DragonBall</I> videos, it's hardly the "biggest thing going in AMVs" to the point of it collapsing the entire fanbase. Not to mention that not all DBZ fans are into AMVs, in the first place.

A few bad videos aren't going to destroy people. I haven't stopped watching and loving <I>Rurouni Kenshin</I>, despite all the horrible videos I've seen to it.

I said it effects it, I didnt say it destroyes it, this with many other things can, thats why I said that.

Not everyone is you. Deal.

Why? you don't deal with the fact that you still think im stalking you.

You're quite the fairweather AMV fan.

It was the closest example I had on hand, and most likely one of the reasons I wrote the artical in the first place.

Sorry I'm a fan of your music video making talent, trust me, I FUCKING HATE TO ADMIT IT.

But I am a fan of your amv's, and when I saw your new one, coupled with a few others i've seen just in the past few weeks (not just counting dbz) it got me thinking about it alot.

That served no purpose other than to get people to watch your video.

Probably not, but this servers no purpose other than to get people to read my text, and see what I'm talking about, even if it's limited to my scope.

Except that you do, as you've outlined earlier.

Simply a misstep in my writing thats all.

Because I dont.

People can and will make what they want, despite what Jacob thinks. Sorry.

And yet you(and MANY fans) write articals about how the dub could be better, or etc.

Same thing, diffrent art form.

[quote}
Thank you for discouraging people from potentially doing what they want to do in this free world. It's people like you that obviously make our hobby a better place, because you clearly know SO much about others' intentions and artwork. At least we have one golden crusader.
[/quote]

I sense... sarcasiem... hmm.

I'm not discouraging the art form as a whole, I'm just saying, I dunno, maybe I just missteped in my writing,

If I really offended many people, i apologize,

I'm not trying to discourage people.

It was just my view, thats all.

LaTeZ~

Later. [/quote]

[VegettoEX]

Yes I know, don't forget DCD'S recently released video about Movie 4, I didnt have the space to name EVERYTHING EX, it was an overly long artical at that.

If you're going to single out other peoples' videos to criticize in a public forum, you might as well be fair about it and list them all. At least you've got all your bases covered, that way.

1. Three diffrent gundam series,
2. my song was edited,
3. Maybe it is a bit hypocritical, isnt that the point of becoming a better creator? to relize the mistakes you might have made in the past?

So you're saying that because you used a DIFFERENT <I>Gundam</I> series and edited the song, it's different? It's still the same darn thing. This isn't your only case of this. Remember when you wanted to re-do, dead on, my "Just Rock 'n Roll" video? Or Scott's "Live and Let Die" ? How is re-doing someone's video "bettering" yourself in any way?

You're free to do whatever you want, yes. The difference is that no-one says they're "bettering themselves" by copying someone else's idea or concept... except you.

And anyway, I'm not really MAKING people stop making videos like this, I'm simply expressing a feeling I have about this certain form of video (much like people do about effects heavy videos), It's an artical about me, having a certain dislike for this type of video.

Of course you can't MAKE anyone do anything. The fact that you're going out of your way to cram an opinion that's hardly well-thought-out down peoples' throats is a little unsettling, though.

And I've been doing this for about 6 years, yes you people see alot of people as "newbies" but we're all not particularly as "newbish" as you think.

So yes, when I say this in this artical, I might not be speaking from the "Org's" complete point of view, because quite frankly, it's just me writing this,

When I wrote this, I didn ask the other members, "hey do you think im right?" NO! because I wrote this from my point of view.

.... huh? Still trying to understand this part.

Who are you to judge me from your "expertise" fuck you, frankly im getting really pissed off at you,

I'm not the one telling people what they should and shouldn't do with their own artform... I'm simply explaining to you that it's no-one's place to tell anyone how they should or should not make their videos.

Just because YOU don't agree with how they're making them shouldn't give them any less motivation for doing so.

And I'm sure you just don't give a fuck.

Quite honestly, no, I don't care what you think. What bothers me is that other people (who don't know better) may read what you're typing and think you've got some sort of logical reason behind what you're saying, and may be swayed from doing the video they want to do. That's not cool.

But frankly Fuck you EX, you just piss me off, you're a jerk off who thinks all I do is stalk him, YOU ANWSERED A THEAD THAT I WROTE.

Just remember I'm not the one who's throwing names and curses around.

Stop thinking im stalking you.

Quote from Alt.Fan.Dragonball - VegettoEX

"*zips off in a blast of lightning, counting the number of places Nemo has
stalked him to*"

Who's the stalker... ?

You've been banned from my message board, you've been banned from my chat, you've been banned from the MTT forums... did it ever occur to you that maybe there's a reason for all this? YOU came to US... we're not the ones initiating all of these ridiculous little "wars" you seem to enjoy starting.

So just stop it, stop being a jackass to me.

Like I said, I'm not the one throwing nonsense around. I'm just replying to you in a public forum; if you can't deal with what's being said to you, then maybe you shouldn't have said it in the first place. Like you keep bringing up, everyone's entitled to their own opinions.

It was the closest example I had on hand, and most likely one of the reasons I wrote the artical in the first place.

Sorry I'm a fan of your music video making talent, trust me, I FUCKING HATE TO ADMIT IT.

But I am a fan of your amv's, and when I saw your new one, coupled with a few others i've seen just in the past few weeks (not just counting dbz) it got me thinking about it alot.

I gotcha.

Probably not, but this servers no purpose other than to get people to read my text, and see what I'm talking about, even if it's limited to my scope.

This makes no sense. I can't understand what you're trying to say.

And yet you(and MANY fans) write articals about how the dub could be better, or etc.

Same thing, diffrent art form.

No, quite different.

There's a big difference between writing about how a professional company is handling a licensed property for public consumption via money, versus fans making some art for fun on their computer.

When you're paying for a product, you have the right to complain about it. When it's a 13 year old making a DBZ video because he likes the explosions, you have no such right.

I'm not trying to discourage people.

Then what was the point of your discouraging people... ?

Maybe you should just stop watching videos, all-together. You'll probably be a happier person. You won't have all these pent-up agressions towards 13 year olds that want to have fun, and you won't be forced to parade around on message boards and newsgroups proclaiming to have the "end-all" attitude and knowledge towards a subject.

We're all still learning and experimenting, no matter how old we are or how long we've been at it. No-one wants to be told how to do their thing... so don't.

[Rozard]