Damn Bigotted Liberals

Alucard_FoN · Post by **Alucard_FoN** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 12:40 am

MistyCaldwell wrote:what? You mean you don't like the taste of charcoal carcinogens burned into your meat?

I do!

Pie Row Maniac · Post by **Pie Row Maniac** » Sun Jun 08, 2003 2:00 am

MistyCaldwell wrote:what? You mean you don't like the taste of charcoal carcinogens burned into your meat?

I do. I'm old-fashioned. Actually, when roasting marshmellows, I let the sucker catch flame until it's black and good-for-snackin'. Marshmellows count as cuisine to me. Again, old-fashioned.

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 6:23 am

BishounenStalker wrote: the LAST thing the government needs to do is cut its primary source of revenue by the third largest amount in U.S. history. So far, the idiot's managed to do nothing but plunge the country further into debt and squander away the substantial budget surplus Clinton had left us with

Lowering taxes helps the economy, stupid!

BishounenStalker wrote: And if he steals the office from American voters again

But... he didn't steal it the first time! It just kind of... um... fell into his lap by mistake.

BishounenStalker wrote: And let me just say the president who gets stuck cleaning up the mess Bush left in the White House garners my most sincere pity.

Actually, Bush is cleaning up the mess left by his predecessors. Guys like Saddam and Bin Laden were put into power by the dumbass Reagan and Bush Senior. Now Dubya is correcting those mistakes. I'm personally very happy every time there's one less asshole in the world because of Bush Jr.

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 6:26 am

MistyCaldwell wrote:what? You mean you don't like the taste of charcoal carcinogens burned into your meat?

Um... you're thinking American. He said English. The English are famous for boiling everything, including meat. I like boiled meat. I also like crumpets and scones.

BishounenStalker · Post by **BishounenStalker** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 10:10 am

the Black Monarch wrote: Lowering taxes helps the economy, stupid![/quote

Not after a mega-expensive war it doesn't. We just spent tons of money sending troops to Iraq. The last thing we need is to cut the government's revenue AGAIN (not to mention raise the debt ceiling). It's like buying a Rolex watch and giving yourself a salary cut. Instead of cutting taxes, what Dubya SHOULD be doing is using said revenue to fund government projects and such that help create jobs and stimulate the economy (i.e. tear a page out of FDR's book).

And if lowering taxes helps the economy so much, then explain why with all the tax cuts Bush has given us, our national debt keeps climbing along with our unemployment rate. Before spouting idiotic statements like that, try doing some research.

But... he didn't steal it the first time! It just kind of... um... fell into his lap by mistake.
The American people did not vote him into office, therefore it isn't rightfully his. As far as I'm concerned, grovelling to someone (the Supreme Court) to give you what is not rightfully yours is tantamount to stealing.

Actually, Bush is cleaning up the mess left by his predecessors. Guys like Saddam and Bin Laden were put into power by the dumbass Reagan and Bush Senior. Now Dubya is correcting those mistakes. I'm personally very happy every time there's one less asshole in the world because of Bush Jr.

Bush isn't correcting anyone's mistakes. He's compounding them. From what I've been reading and hearing, this WMD bullshit is starting to look more and more like another Gulf of Tonkin. Blatantly forging experts' information to get the American people to support the Iraq campaign is going to cause a whole new mess of problems. This war was not about removing Saddam. It was revenge for Bush Sr.'s failure at Desert Storm. And all its doing is pissing off the rest of the world.

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 6:20 pm

BishounenStalker wrote: Not after a mega-expensive war it doesn't.

Yes, it does. It doesn't help the national treasury, but it does help the economy.

BishounenStalker wrote:The American people did not vote him into office, therefore it isn't rightfully his. As far as I'm concerned, grovelling to someone (the Supreme Court) to give you what is not rightfully yours is tantamount to stealing.

He didn't have to grovel. We have an Electoral College. He won according to the rules that have been used for the past 200+ years.

BishounenStalker wrote:Bush isn't correcting anyone's mistakes. He's compounding them. From what I've been reading and hearing, this WMD bullshit is starting to look more and more like another Gulf of Tonkin. Blatantly forging experts' information to get the American people to support the Iraq campaign is going to cause a whole new mess of problems. This war was not about removing Saddam. It was revenge for Bush Sr.'s failure at Desert Storm.

But Bush SR. accomplished everything that he set out to do in the Gulf War: protect Kuwaiti independence (I don't know why Kuwaiti independence was so damn important at the time...)

Reagan sold weapons to Saddam during the Iran-Iraq war. Bush Sr. not only backed but also trained Osama Bin Laden when the USSR invaded Afghanistan. Those were mistakes. Said mistakes have now been corrected by our benevolent if somewhat bumbling President.

Whether you like it or not, and whether you agree with it or not, the world is a better place because of Bush Jr.

BishounenStalker · Post by **BishounenStalker** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 7:17 pm

I'm barely resisting the urge to pound your pathetically ignorant ass with a really big stick.

the Black Monarch wrote:Yes, it does. It doesn't help the national treasury, but it does help the economy.

You are a fucking moron. Lowering taxes = increased national debt = INCREASED INTEREST RATES = inability for individuals and businesses to borrow money = less chance for said individuals and businesses to invest = Bear Market = rising unemployment....the list goes on. Right now our rates are low, which is good. This tax cut is going to help drive them up, which in turn drives the economy downhill. As it is, unemployment is already on the rise. Go back to high school and learn some fucking economics.

Not to mention we don't NEED to lower taxes. We have the absolute lowest tax rate in the Western Hemisphere at the moment. The only reason Dubya signed off on this last tax cut is because election time is coming up and he's trying to mask his glaring mistakes by giving us a tax break.

Lack of capital is not the reason our economy's in decline. It's a demand problem, not supply. People are too afraid to invest because of what happened with WorldCom and Enron and the whole Arthur Anderson mess (which, incidentally, Bush has done absolutely jack shit about). They have no confidence in a company's published books, and don't want to risk losing their shirts to a bunch of corporate crooks. If our bastard of a president had DONE something about that instead of making pointless speeches that drove the market into a +200-point trench every day for a week straight, it would've helped a lot more than giving us a damn tax cut that we really don't need (nor can we afford).

He didn't have to grovel. We have an Electoral College. He won according to the rules that have been used for the past 200+ years.

He was "elected" by a Supreme Court vote, not the American system, you moron.

But Bush SR. accomplished everything that he set out to do in the Gulf War: protect Kuwaiti independence (I don't know why Kuwaiti independence was so damn important at the time...)

Reagan sold weapons to Saddam during the Iran-Iraq war. Bush Sr. not only backed but also trained Osama Bin Laden when the USSR invaded Afghanistan. Those were mistakes. Said mistakes have now been corrected by our benevolent if somewhat bumbling President.

Whether you like it or not, and whether you agree with it or not, the world is a better place because of Bush Jr.

HAVE YOU NOT BEEN READING/WATCHING THE FUCKING NEWS???

The world is an even more fucked up place since he's been in office. Granted, Bush Sr. and Reagan's actions were mistakes. But what has Bush done to fix them? Bin Laden isn't confirmed dead, Al-Quaeda is VERY much alive and kicking, and we're not even done cleaning up the mess we made in Afghanistan before we race off to "take care of" Iraq and leave France holding the shovels (I don't blame them for not wanting to go into Iraq. They still had troops in Afghanistan).

For that matter, Saddam's whereabouts are unknown as well. Bush accomplished nothing in Iraq other than wasting money and troops and getting the Iraqi people pissed off at US! And now he has his sights set on Iran and North Korea? We have a fucking moron for a president. His domestic policy sucks, and his foreign policy swallows.

And before you come back with some hotheaded and ignorant reply, go do some fucking research.

kthulhu · Post by **kthulhu** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 7:26 pm

All I knows is, I'll take his money, and vote for someone else.

BishounenStalker · Post by **BishounenStalker** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 7:34 pm

kthulhu wrote:All I knows is, I'll take his money, and vote for someone else.

LMAO!

And I'll save said money to book a plain ticket out of this country if he gets elected again

Alucard_FoN · Post by **Alucard_FoN** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 7:41 pm

Not that anyone cares, but for the record, I agre with BishounenStalker.