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Zarx made a new (old) AMV!

Post by Zarxrax » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:30 pm



This is a remake/remaster of a video that I made 17 years ago.
Among all of the videos that I have created, Tod has always been a personal favorite of mine.
The original had pretty bad video quality, so I've been thinking of remaking it for the past decade or so.
Recently watching Evangelion again on Netflix and then finding out that DaVinci Resolve exists prompted me to try some editing again.
This remake remains mostly the same as the original, but some edits have been modified and the effects have been toned down.

I don't know what this means, but here's a taco. :taco:

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Re: Zarx made a new (old) AMV!

Post by CrackTheSky » Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:17 pm

This has been an absolute favorite of mine for some time. Literally the only thing that bothered me about the original was the chroma keying segment, and you fixed that here, so it's nearly perfect now. I can't overstate enough to the people who might check out this thread that this is a top-notch video, and one that I will keep around forever. Really happy to see a remaster, never thought it'd happen!

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Re: Zarx made a new (old) AMV!

Post by Kionon » Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:45 pm

Zarxrax wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:30 pm

This is a remake/remaster of a video that I made 17 years ago.
Among all of the videos that I have created, Tod has always been a personal favorite of mine.
The original had pretty bad video quality, so I've been thinking of remaking it for the past decade or so.
Recently watching Evangelion again on Netflix and then finding out that DaVinci Resolve exists prompted me to try some editing again.
This remake remains mostly the same as the original, but some edits have been modified and the effects have been toned down.

I don't know what this means, but here's a taco. :taco:
I vaguely remember this. Natalie Imbruglia is my favorite female solo artist. I normally associate this song with MaisonOtaku's Utena video from around the same time period. As someone attempting to do remasters of other people's videos (most of whom are not just retired, but outright disappeared, including MaisonOtaku), I appreciate the update. There are so many videos that could benefit just from newly released source footage; the editing wouldn't even need to change.

Also, I am messing around with Resolve myself. It's pretty decent.
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Re: Zarx made a new (old) AMV!

Post by Mol » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:39 pm

A good vid i guess. So like... any more remasterz ?.
What's up with Tod anyway ???
Still better than that MMO.
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Re: Zarx made a new (old) AMV!

Post by Kionon » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:45 pm

Mol wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:39 pm
A good vid i guess. So like... any more remasterz ?.
What's up with Tod anyway ???
It's German for death. Asuka being part German and a rather famous Eva song being Komm Susser Tod, or Come Sweet Death.
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Re: Zarx made a new (old) AMV!

Post by Zarxrax » Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:11 pm

CrackTheSky wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:17 pm
Literally the only thing that bothered me about the original was the chroma keying segment, and you fixed that here, so it's nearly perfect now.
I spent some time actually trying to redo that chroma keyed segment, then I came to my senses :)
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Also, I am messing around with Resolve myself. It's pretty decent.
I love the cut page with dual timelines (in version 16), it works really well with my editing style and saved me a ton of time. If I do any more editing I'll definitely stick with Resolve.
Mol wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:39 pm
A good vid i guess. So like... any more remasterz ?.
I don't plan to remaster anything else.

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Re: Zarx made a new (old) AMV!

Post by Scintilla » Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:55 pm

Wait, this isn't by Jewel?
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Re: Zarx made a new (old) AMV!

Post by seasons » Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:19 pm

Well, this looks really sharp and pretty, much moreso than most new AMVs that people try to make with the series.

17 years later, this video is still great. Really want to show this to new editors as a an example of how to get the most of out of good quality footage (absolutely zero need to be editing your stuff in 4K and 60fps, 1080p looks awesome), how to create a meaningful character profile in a montage style instead of just throwing action scenes on a timeline, etc. Whether or not young people would even accept this as "music," however, I don't know. That could be the toughest part of my plan.
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Wait, this isn't by Jewel?
pretty sure you're thinking of "Where Have All the Cowboys Gone," it happens to everyone

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Re: Zarx made a new (old) AMV!

Post by Kionon » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:59 pm

I definitely agree that Zarx's video is a fine example of how the nuts and bolts of AMV editing haven't really changed. Only source material quality has improved. Sure, we have more robust effects, but using them badly is worse than not using them at all. Also, you still need a complete structure to have a complete video. Effects and actions won't hide your lack of it.

And Twixtor is not editing. (Fight me, as the kids say on the instatwitters or whatever).
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Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:19 pm
Whether or not young people would even accept this as "music," however, I don't know. That could be the toughest part of my plan.
...Natalie Imbruglia is still performing. Ironically Torn was the only song on the album (Left of the Middle) that was actually a cover (and an example where the cover is both better than the original, and better known, too). Here she is two years ago here in Japan:



Amateur video though, so she sounds really washed out and completely flat versus other performances. And way worse than studio albums. As this was at a community center (and not even a venue), I bet the audio equipment was subpar, add to that the iPhone 6S responsible for the video and... Yeah. Not great.

There are a lot of really good videos to songs from Left of the Middle from these early days. Utena seems to be foremost amongst them, but there's also a really great Lain video to Smoke from Aluminum:

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Re: Zarx made a new (old) AMV!

Post by seasons » Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:29 pm

Oh, I definitely reacquainted myself with Natalie Imbruglia (past and present) after finally watching "Sunlight" by Silk_SK last year--which I'd make a case for being the definitive "2009 AMV, if you know what I mean--a video that turned ten a few months ago (I always miss the chance to celebrate the birthday of my favorite AMVs).

Getting back to "Tod," this AMV is really a masterpiece of lyric sync. There are a lot of videos that do lyric sync very effectively and/or accurately, but I think the most memorable ones are often the videos that do so in ridiculously surprising ways. "Tod" is so subtle and on the nose that I think it could almost be overlooked by a lot of viewers. I'm sure I've heard this song hundreds of times in my life, but I don't think I ever really paid much attention to what it was about, and seeing it played out so literally on the screen, where the narrator's conflicts are so perfectly illustrated and other characters are so naturally featured in the narrative just gave the song new dimensions of meaning that I'd never noticed before. Sure, this is definitely due to me not being an attentive listener when I had lots of chances to do so, but it's really all thanks to how Zarx connected the dots between these scenes and the lyrics, and really capturing the breezy and bright but subtly somber emotions of the music, it really snapped the song into focus for me in a way I've never felt before.

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