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Re: Being A Superstar - AniNite 09 - Best Of Pro

Post by CrackTheSky » Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:17 pm

Bauzi wrote:It's ok if you don't like it. I don't suppose anybody to like my works. As said: I don't see anything wrong with being predictable. That's what I liked about the video. It's simpel to follow.

Uhm... One more thing: Is it that important that a video has to stand out to be good or at least "ok"? I doubt it. This video was never supposed to stand out anywhere.
My tastes over the past year or two have drifted more towards videos that really stand out in some area. I got sick of videos that do the same things over and over a long time ago. Maybe I'm becoming jaded, or whatever, but for me to really like a video, generally it has to do something I haven't seen before.

I'm not saying you're doing anything objectively WRONG. If this is the video you wanted to make, and if you're happy with it, then you succeeded. If you were trying to please me you failed, but I doubt that's the case so it's a moot point :P

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Re: Being A Superstar - AniNite 09 - Best Of Pro

Post by Bauzi » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:58 pm

Oh noez itz teh counter arguments ! |:>
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And no, that point has nothing to do with the song, a lot of songs I don't like at first in a passionate AMV, but over time it grows on me due to how much emotion and personal value the video seems to deliver.
Well than I missinterpreted it. Sry.
Bauzi wrote: That's my main problem with your problem. It feels like you want to say that my taste is not good. This video gives me a lot of atmosphere, emotion and there are parts with a lot of energy in it. Ok you don't like the song. That's fine, but don't judge the video on a opinion that's partialy based on a song you dislike.
With your work I just never get that feeling, your videos seem stale, typically german (there is no typically austrian), as in too technical and it feels "bureaucratic" and cold.
That's something new. Give me some time to think about it.
Like, you know when someone does art, and the viewer can make out little errors and glitches or here and there a personal touch because it's a certain scene selection that could only be seen as negative for anyone except for the creator himself?
Ok such things happen. I know. Presonally there is one scene that might need a tweak and I'm really fine with the rest so yes I definatly don't see such things here.
That's what I'm talking about, your video felt so predictable because it seemed to follow a fully developed plan and structure, like one of those crime shows on german TV. I hate that.
I don't know. People talk about concepts and story telling. I did it here and for a long time I made it obvious. You don't need my fuckin' description to get at least an idea of it. I really don't have a problem with the predictable stuff. It's a schema and it works fine for me. Question: Do you think that it's possible to create a video with that anime, song and theme with using lyric sync without being predictable? I don't know, but it must be hard.

When I think about it than the only things that come into my mind that are predictable: The way of syncing and the final (if you already know the anime). So what do you see in this video as predictable?
I'm not saying you're doing anything objectively WRONG.
That wasn't what I thought about your opinion. It just felt a bit harsh.
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Re: Being A Superstar - AniNite 09 - Best Of Pro

Post by meleechampion » Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:02 pm

I can't not get this, remind me when I get home, little black dot!

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Re: Being A Superstar - AniNite 09 - Best Of Pro

Post by Ingow » Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:28 am

Bauzi wrote:Question: Do you think that it's possible to create a video with that anime, song and theme with using lyric sync without being predictable? I don't know, but it must be hard.

When I think about it than the only things that come into my mind that are predictable: The way of syncing and the final (if you already know the anime). So what do you see in this video as predictable?
Well, usually it can be achieved by just altering a few factors:
1) Don't make the plot linear, you could've gone backwards or told it from a different POV than the movie was showing.
2) Don't focus on the same character that the movie mainly focuses on, take a different route like for example choosing more scenes from the environment or random people.
3) Interpret the lyrics and the song your own way, not the way Manson meant it.
4) Change the atmosphere through effects and color adjustments, there can be irony in showing bright colors to a dark song. All you ever do is emphasize what is already there.

Those are just examples though, the real possibilities are probably limitless for a creative enough mind.
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Re: Being A Superstar - AniNite 09 - Best Of Pro

Post by Sephirothishere » Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:13 am

There seems to be a couple of mixed opinions about this vid :P

Well, not that my opinion is really that important, i still think there are balanced ways to criticize a video..

per example, criticizing the video both as a video on it's own and as a video compared to the actual org amv standart. Dunno if this was explicit, i suck at english.

If i see this as a casual viewer of amvs, this seems awesomely good, very well edited, good scene selection, i sincerely HATE mason and i loved this video. This video on it's own is well done.

But is i see this video in comparisson to all the org amv standart and stuff:
yeah, there are better PB videos, more original, different ideas, bla bla bla.

As for me, take my first opinion in account: i judge art for what it tries to be, and i think that's the more fair way to judge it.


and with my sucky english i doubt anyone would understand what everything that i just said :o oh well i tried

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Post by CodeZTM » Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:20 am

>.> Where the hell did all that discussion pop up from? I hate questioning the very fabric of artistic value and origin on forums. :|

Anyway, the video was creepy to the point where I liked it for what it was. :up:

[Althought this concept has been done many times in the past. Actually, I think it's the only concept that Perfect Blue ever has a change of executing by itself and not with other anime.]

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Post by Bakadeshi » Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:02 pm

actually... It could be because i havn't seen perfect blue in a long while, so I didn;t renember the plot exactly, but It wasn't boring to me at all. It actually kept my attention throughout the whole thing. Pretty good pacing, editing, and story telling there, and you don't have to have seen the movie to get whats going on. I have mixed feelings on the camera thing, it looks fine, I just didn't realy get why you used it at all. but whatever, didn't distract enough for me to complain too much about it. anyway, overall, good jub. :up:

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Re: Being A Superstar - AniNite 09 - Best Of Pro

Post by Phantasmagoriat » Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:51 am

I pretty much liked this. Good mood :twisted:
Although I can see what other people are getting at in terms of predictability. I saw exactly what I expected just by looking at the artist and anime. That isn't such a bad thing; it probably works really well for people unfamiliar with the music/anime. Unfortunately people expect to see things they don't expect [ironic, eh]

anyways solid work :up:
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Post by Bauzi » Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:45 am

Phantasmagoriat wrote: Although I can see what other people are getting at in terms of predictability. I saw exactly what I expected just by looking at the artist and anime. That isn't such a bad thing; it probably works really well for people unfamiliar with the music/anime. Unfortunately people expect to see things they don't expect [ironic, eh]
Ah! Thank you for your input. I see. I really can't disagree on that form of predictability. Although it's not as much predictable as a Naruto - Simpel Plan amv, but it's surely true. I think it played a big role that these two sources of mine sticked together so well. I was almost annoyed that nobody made this combination before. Not on the .org or YT.

Now that's scary: I made a google search for

Code: Select all

"Perfect Blue" "Marilyn Manson" amv
and 4 of the Top5 links are related to me or my stuff. I don't find Manson-Perfect Blue combinations on YT or Google. I only found one video and that doesn't seam to be a pure Manson-Perfect Blue combination. I goto see it:

This is quite a surprise that there are no or hardly such anime-artist combinations. I for sur can't call my video too original, but still... there are no such combinations :|

@Melee: *reminds you*

@Ingow: Thx for the suggestions. I take them into consideration for next time, but for now I can say: I'm fine with my video and don't want it any other way.

@Sephirot:
Thank you for your comment and...
But is i see this video in comparisson to all the org amv standart and stuff:
yeah, there are better PB videos, more original, different ideas, bla bla bla.
I'm highly surprised by the forum comments. I expected way worse to get.
Code wrote:>.> Where the hell did all that discussion pop up from? I hate questioning the very fabric of artistic value and origin on forums. :|
Better some discussions than no discussions :)
Actually, I think it's the only concept that Perfect Blue ever has a change of executing by itself and not with other anime.
Mhm I don't think so. I also have another concept for a Perfect Blue Video, but it would be with multiple animes. It would make it much more easier to execute the concept. I think PB has a lot to offer, but the other stuff isn't too easy to get.

@Bakadeshi:
Thanks for the input.
I have mixed feelings on the camera thing, it looks fine, I just didn't realy get why you used it at all
It's the stalker and journalist factor (with various media forms who have an eye on you). To be a Superstar with issues you just need these things :P and it makes a damn good creepy factor for me. Imagine there are fan sites of you and other sides that show really scary, secret and private moments of your life. Like you... killing another star or getting murdered. All easly accessable via the internet. Now that would be scary as hell if that happened to me.
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Post by dreamawake » Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:00 am

Didn't like it. While the idea is cool and works, the editing was weak as fuck and just not satisfying at all. Then comparing this to beo's track in dead to the world it's just like....lol
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