Are amvs fun??

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Are amvs fun??

Post by Knowname » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:53 pm

what the hell is wrong with all of you, it sickens me to see so many reviews for videos that start off along the lines of 'well this was a great vid but I noticed you didn't clean up your footage around 3:14 and clearly you had about 4 extra frames at 4:08...not to mention that if you tilt your head to the left a bit and close your right eye, the video looks a bit off'

Seriously if that applies to you then I say go to hell, infinitely, you know what made the older videos so motherfucking bad ass? It was the concept and the execution, ripping dvds like crazy and cleaning up your footage for 55 hours before actually importing was unhead of and even now, if you can do it, kudos to you and I'm sure your videos have the extra edge, but it's not going to cause any disturbance in the force if you saw some weird stuff on frame 89...
To further this comment I had found in the journals I must point out, amvs have become SO easy to make that... well, they're MUCH too easy to fuck up now as well! When was it that we had to start basically watching our backs instead of just having fun throwing our imagination out there!

I think back to the time I tried Vegas. As an old school (Premiere) editor this is just appalling, I encoded my video and it was NOT like my preview! I don't mean encoding errors, I mean there were fades and dissolves in places (while they did look better that way) I hadn't placed them, heck I couldn't even FIND the fade function in vegas yet!! Anyway, this isn't a rant against Vegas (well it sorta' is...), but *I* didn't make that AMV, SONY did! Makes me wonder?? How many AMVs have you made?? How many AMVs out there are really MADE by the person controling the editor and not the editor itself? It just sickens me. It sickens me so much that I'm gonna make my next amv using Audacity and Virtual Dub.

To put it bluntly I would like to point out many of the members of this org have just become much too <a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/ ... e/l33t.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket">l33t</a> to really sustain a sane HOBBYIST environment!

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Post by Wolfy2hk » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:52 pm

Even with all that said, i still respect the people who do take it serious, I myself, just make them to kill time, so i do consider making amv's fun as long as you like the anime and song. To me thats all that counts

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Post by Moonie » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:57 pm

They are still fun for me
A lot has changed since back in the day though
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Post by XiaoMovieMaker » Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:29 pm

i'm new to this O_O
so i'll just say that it's a fun hobby...but there are some times where i just "don't feel" like making an AMV

so with all my Algebra homework and AP stuff to do, i'm practically studying 24/7, but cutting in 10-30 minutes a day just to work on an AMV is definitely worth looking forward to...

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Post by Scintilla » Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:35 pm

As far as I'm concerned, getting my footage to look and compress the best it can is <i>part of</i> the fun.

But then, I've been told that I'm a sick individual, so.
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Post by Bauzi » Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:41 pm

If you can´t deal with critic you are on the wrong place. This IS a hobby that wants perfection (or at least a lot people want it), because it´s fun and challenging and amvs go with the time and that means: Encoding, high quality.
On this site you´ll meet every kind of person and everybody has it´s on points and cores in critics. You just have to live with it and listen to what you like. YOU make the amv, not the others. YOU decide on wich part you want to have fun or where you want to lay more work on.

Of course such critics are not alright. To only point such points out is mean. Take a critic constructive or don´t even read it.
but *I* didn't make that AMV, SONY did!
Sometimes I can often tell: This is Premiere and this was made with Sony. There are so typical stuff in it that are too obvious. There is a true point in this sentence.
You can find me on YT under "Bauzi514". Subscribe to never miss my AMV releases. :amv:

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Post by dj_ultima_the_great » Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:40 pm

I'm just gonna keep saying what I always say...

If you're going to put so much effort into making an AMV you enjoy, why wouldn't you also want to make the effort to make sure it looks nice? Y'know, just in case somewhere down the road the footage quality does become important to you.

Yeah, cleaning up footage is boring as hell and it's definitely my least favorite part of making an AMV. Yet, when I think about how good it's gonna look, it's all worth the effort for me.

Furthermore, it's human nature to notice the footage quality first. In the first .01 seconds after opening an AMV, you can't tell whether or not it has beat sync. You can't see any storyline, and crazy-ass effects certainly aren't number one on your list either. However, it only takes that .01 seconds for your eyes to register that there is a huge pixellation problem in the image. So of course people are going to comment on the footage quality! It's the first thing they see, and the first thing that their brains make any sense of!

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Post by Arigatomina » Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:50 pm

They stopped being fun for me about a year ago. Too much work. Too many anal comments about capture and encode without even referring to the video itself. I got better feedback about the video (concept, scene choices, viewer response) on the tube than I got here. Here it was all about cuts and effects and capture and, yeah, I don't really care. Sure, my standards went up along with the general quality of vids on the org, but after a certain point it was...pointless. I can't tell the difference between a nice xvid and a hq mp4 except that my computer can play one and the other one chokes and kills it. Dvd footage, noticeable beat sync, no subtitles = technically acceptable amv. Now how about the video itself? Nothing. I miss opinions that were more opinion than tech critique. But then, I've always been into amvs for the anime and music rather than the editing.

As for the editing program making the vid and not me...no, never caught that. The crappy mistakes were always my own, and I'm as fond of them as any mother is of her retarded children. ^_^

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Post by Knowname » Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:33 pm

yeah, for me there are the doers and there are the.... old farts. I'd categorize myself as the latter category. I don't WANT to be a doer I do-er enough alREADY! It has nothing to do with not being able to take criticism, it has more to do with respect for your ELDERS DAMNIT ;p. -no, no... but to tell the truth this thread was a bit of a joke to get me by while all my friends (pathetic, all my friends are on the org *cry*) are at awa but... there is a bit of truth to the statement. Everybody should know that some videos are gonna be Johnny Youngblood's actionfest of automated strobes and sync-ifa-cationt! And some videos are just gonna be VIDEOS, and some day you noobs will all be there too wondering why Ms. future editor 3000 can overly 5 fighting scenes in 4 dimensions at 3000fps while your still stuck at 60 and you'll be like 'I'm OOOOOOOOLD!!#@$@$%

Why fore!~~

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Post by devilmaykickass » Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:35 pm

Scintilla wrote:As far as I'm concerned, getting my footage to look and compress the best it can is <i>part of</i> the fun.
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