AMV-Review #19: Copycat_Revolver's Infinite Continues

quadir · Post by **quadir** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:31 pm

The concept: free op the chosen amv, then video discussion in irc
Where: #amv-review irc.zirc.org (web client)
When: Every Monday, 20:30 EDT (8:30pm)
After: free-for-all video-related chat the rest of the week

This week's video:
Adam Liebscher (Copycat_Revolver) - 2007 - Infinite Continues
Category: Action
Anime: Fullmetal Alchemist [Spoilers]
Song: OK Go - Invincible

Bonus Video:
(fal-79D37) - 2004 - Image
Category: Serious
Anime: Witch Hunter Robin
Song: Theatre Of Tragedy - Liquid Man

We want video suggestions, pm me or email quadir@animemusicvideos.org don't post em in the thread.

If you want to beta your video, or watch & comment on betas, lurk moar in #amv-review during the week.

Archive:
2007 July 018-16, 017-09, 016-02
June 015-25, 014-18, 013-11, 012-04, May 011-28, 010-21, 009-14, 008-07
April 007-30, 006-23, 005-16, 004-09, 003-02, March 002-26, 001-19

quadir · Post by **quadir** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:31 pm

IRC Participants: G_Q (GloryQuestor - John Wendel), Minion, NerdStrudel (Blain T), ngsilver (Nathan), quadir (Olivier Beaton), teya

IRC Edited Log wrote:21:34 <quadir> so vid fails for not one upping K.O.F from AMV-Review #4
21:35 <NerdStrudel> ?
21:35 <quadir> although they are only 2 months appart
21:35 <teya> er.. okay
21:35 <G_Q> I thought it was good, though.
21:35 <quadir> and I guess this one is action whereas K.O.F was more 'fun'
21:35 <teya> i can't compare, haven't seen it
21:36 <G_Q> I've seen quite a bit of FMA over the years, and this was pretty original.
21:36 <teya> or at least, i don't remember seeing it
21:36 <NerdStrudel> Indeed
21:36 <quadir> but while I thought this was a decent action vid, I just didn't feel the video game tie-in
21:36 <ngsilver> the street fighter element made me want to keep the file
21:36 <ngsilver> i do agree, it lacked
21:36 <quadir> yeah? I dunno I feel I've seen that angle played too much
21:36 <NerdStrudel> yah.. the video game tie-in seemed like something he put...
21:36 <NerdStrudel> just whem he didn't know what else
21:36 <NerdStrudel> and like...
21:36 <NerdStrudel> Sold it
21:36 <G_Q> The sync on everything was pretty nice, although I agree on the overall use of the VG stuff.
21:37 <quadir> with the 3 video game projects and random projects like K.O.F... if you're going to do the video game thing, make it really strong and a real big deal
21:37 <NerdStrudel> there wasn't a large enough use of it
21:37 <quadir> the scene with his health bars for example just seemed slapped on for no reason
21:37 <quadir> but his ringout was well played
21:37 <NerdStrudel> But the
21:37 <NerdStrudel> Hadouken Pattern
21:37 <NerdStrudel> ...
21:37 <NerdStrudel> or what that a shoryuken?
21:37 <NerdStrudel> either way
21:37 <NerdStrudel> that was pointless
21:37 <G_Q> It's tough with vids like this, though -- where the effects tended to be better than the meat of the vid.
21:38 <G_Q> Almost like a juicy-looking steak that's a bit tough on the inside.
21:38 <teya> the video game stuff i found neat, but went by too fast
21:38 <quadir> yeah like the stage select
21:38 <NerdStrudel> Stage select was... eh
21:38 <quadir> I would of really liked more a of a theme of stages throughout the video
21:39 <NerdStrudel> I suppose
21:39 <G_Q> True.
21:39 <teya> quadir: that might've worked, yeah
21:39 <quadir> but instead I got random action shots with 2 seconds of flashing stages
21:39 <ngsilver> yeah, more of the tie-ins to the video game theme throughout. combos ect.
21:39 <NerdStrudel> And yah.
21:39 <NerdStrudel> ..
21:39 <quadir> NerdStrudel: the combo readout was cool, but would of had to do it MORE, not just a one-off
21:40 <quadir> like do it on almost every scene, in the bottom of each corner, fading as each move is entered, or something
21:40 <NerdStrudel> The video game tie-ins were pretty much just like filler
21:40 <NerdStrudel> ...
21:40 <NerdStrudel> to me
21:41 <quadir> I think NerdStrudel nailed it, except for the intro to the vid, the vg stuff felt like filler
21:41 <quadir> take it out though
21:41 <quadir> and you still have solid sync
21:41 <quadir> and fairly solid action
21:41 <NerdStrudel> yah
21:41 <Minion> having seen the amv, i was entertained.
21:41 <NerdStrudel> I liked the intro
21:41 <Minion> there, thats my review
21:41 <NerdStrudel> and the outro
21:41 <G_Q> quadir: I complemented on that, actually.
21:41 <NerdStrudel> those were kickass
21:41 <teya> quadir: i think the video game thing gave the video a point
21:41 <ngsilver> but dispite the solid action... it then just seems... overused... and done before
21:41 <G_Q> All but a very few parts were completely in sync.
21:42 <teya> take that out, and the amv is rather boring
21:42 <quadir> teya: yeah, I felt he tried to use to justify the "random fights between people"
21:42 <G_Q> ng: It has been overused. It's FMA.
21:42 <NerdStrudel> ...Yes we all know.. The video game parts were lame and not done to well
21:42 <G_Q> Too many FMA vids use the same scenes ("Blue Guy" vs. Ed, for example), but this one used it well I thought.
21:43 <NerdStrudel> greed?
21:43 <G_Q> I thought they were actually not as bad as all that.
21:43 <NerdStrudel> yah the fight scenes weren't that bad
21:43 <G_Q> The intro was a pretty nice homage to SF2.
21:43 <quadir> G_Q: yeah maybe I'm skipping too many fma vids of late but the blue guy fight did stand out
21:43 <NerdStrudel> take out the VG stuff.. and I'd still enjoy this amv
21:43 <NerdStrudel> cept the intro and outro
21:43 <NerdStrudel> keep though
21:44 <NerdStrudel> those*
21:44 <G_Q> It could have used a bit of Shambala shine.
21:44 <NerdStrudel> they owned
21:44 <teya> i wasn't a huge fan of the "outro"
21:45 <quadir> neither was I, not for an action vid
21:45 <NerdStrudel> was it just me or did his masking throughout seem kinda shotty
21:45 <quadir> totally ruined the pumped up pacing he used throughout
21:45 <quadir> although yes fighting game endings are usually lame
21:45 <teya> heh
21:45 <teya> so he gets points for realism ;)
21:45 <quadir> NerdStrudel: that's kind of expected, I woudln't rail on it too hard given how hard it is
21:46 <teya> i didn't find the masking terrible compared to most
21:46 <NerdStrudel> I suppose.. I hate Masking to
21:46 <NerdStrudel> I pretty much avoid masking, even though I always have ideas on how to use it
21:46 <teya> it was obvious, but not distracting
21:46 <NerdStrudel> I suppose
21:46 <quadir> he also really doesn't resolve his 3-way fight at the end
21:47 <quadir> from the stage-select on
21:47 <quadir> he has a storyline!
21:47 <NerdStrudel> ...
21:47 <NerdStrudel> 3-way fighting?
21:47 <quadir> which is good
21:47 <quadir> yeah stage-select onwards is between 3 characters
21:47 <quadir> in a 3-way fight
21:47 <NerdStrudel> Oh i suppose
21:47 <NerdStrudel> roy,scar, and ed
21:47 <G_Q> Then Ed vanishes and Scar takes over.
21:47 <quadir> whereas up to that point was random punches between random people
21:48 <quadir> and then scar vanishes and ed fights and looses
21:48 <quadir> but scar...?
21:48 <G_Q> Did an SF game have switch-off partners?
21:48 <NerdStrudel> no
21:48 <NerdStrudel> only the like
21:48 <G_Q> I though that was (Game x) vs Capcom.
21:48 <NerdStrudel> Capcom vs SNK or whatever type games did
21:48 <ngsilver> SF didn't really have ring outs either
21:48 <NerdStrudel> yah..
21:48 <NerdStrudel> that bothered me -_-
21:48 <quadir> shhh
21:48 <G_Q> Marvel Vs., SNK Vs., etc.,
21:48 <quadir> the ringout was good :(
21:49 <ngsilver> it was funny... but losses the realism points there
21:49 <NerdStrudel> Oh and as long as we're totally making up little "stories" That there are
21:49 <quadir> I guess he resolves scar at 3:25 or whatever
21:49 <G_Q> In hindsight, the editor should have used DBZ Budokai.
21:49 <NerdStrudel> Ed vs Lust
21:49 <quadir> where he blows up scar
21:49 <NerdStrudel> Alpohonze vs Gluttony
21:49 <G_Q> Selectable characters, multiple stages, ring outs, etc.
21:49 <Minion> shameless plug, go watch autrayas capcop vs snk vid
21:49 <G_Q> Plus, we already have the yellow, spiky-haired hero.
21:49 <NerdStrudel> Scar vs gluttony*
21:49 <Minion> oh ya, some other guy did it too
21:50 <Minion> capcom
21:50 <teya> >_<
21:50 <quadir> anyways, roll call
21:51 <quadir> I liked the vid in the end, even if I could of done with better integration of VG and a more coherent video, although the stage-select on I noticed on reviewings was fluid
21:51 <NerdStrudel> I still love the outro.. that pwned
21:52 <teya> i thought it was decent, entertaining. a bit long, and not enough addition of video game stuff.
21:52 <NerdStrudel> It wasn't to long -_-
21:52 <NerdStrudel> But yes.. needed more better done VG stuff
21:52 <teya> i dunno, i lost interest at a certain point
21:52 <teya> my mind wandered
21:52 <G_Q> The intro was nice, the outro was funny, the character select and stage select were also pretty neat, and the rest had great action sync. Overall, it was a pretty nice vid.
21:52 <teya> hence thinking it was too long
21:53 <G_Q> (Even though it did drag a bit in the middle)
21:53 <NerdStrudel> I liked the part with introducing the deadly sins
21:53 <ngsilver> overall i enjoyed the video as a video, but this didn't catch me as something I want to show my friends, or keep high on the replay list
21:53 <G_Q> (That was my only real negative with the video)
21:53 <NerdStrudel> "we come t odestroy the world" or whatever
21:53 * G_Q agrees with ngsilver.
21:53 <NerdStrudel> I thought that little 2 second spot was awesome =O
21:53 <G_Q> I'll watch it once in a while, but not all the time.
21:54 <ngsilver> and the MP4 seems to have less in the way of quality then the avi
21:54 <G_Q> I based my technical ops off the AVI version.
21:54 <quadir> yeah I mentioned that in my op, the "we come to destroy the world" and "have to deal with me first" part is good
21:54 <quadir> great introduction
21:55 <quadir> I wish the first half of the vid would of done more with that
21:55 <NerdStrudel> mhmm
21:55 <G_Q> Yeah.
21:55 <ngsilver> I had the benifit of DL'ing the AVI a while back, and then got the mp4 and was dissapointed, thoug my op was based mostly off of the avi
21:57 <NerdStrudel> It says catcom at the beginning of the vid
21:57 <NerdStrudel> instead of capcom
21:57 <NerdStrudel> :O
21:57 <NerdStrudel> clever clever
21:57 <quadir> yeah, it's cute :)

NS · Post by NS » Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:25 am

I barely made this one BUWAHAHA

Bauzi · Post by **Bauzi** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:46 am

Copycat Revolver rocks \m/

He always makes his amvs with a cool song and a style. I can´t describe where his stuff is different to other stuff, but I really like it the way it is ^^

Watch out for his new amv =D

Copycat_Revolver · Post by **Copycat_Revolver** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:44 am

Holy crap! I just jumped online for a second and found gobs of free ops thrown at me from nowhere. Thanks, everybody. I'm at work at the moment so I'll go back through and respond to them all when I get some free time.

Warheart · Post by **Warheart** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:28 am

Hey, grats for digging out Image. That video was gold in those days.

CrackTheSky · Post by **CrackTheSky** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:28 am

I

Copycat :3

omegaevolution · Post by **omegaevolution** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:18 pm

I watched this AMV when it was announced in the forums O: and...

OMG I loved this AMV so much XD, I still have it there and I re-watch from time to time, I simply loved the edition in this vid

quadir · Post by **quadir** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:05 pm

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