AMV Review 2007-03-19 Bryan Pardue's "Kei"

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AMV Review 2007-03-19 Bryan Pardue's "Kei"

Post by quadir » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:40 pm

The concept: Flash-mob op an amv, discuss it in irc, post the log + let others who weren't there do so here
Where: On server irc.zirc.org on channel #amv-review
When: Every Week on Monday, 21:00 EDT (9pm)

FAQ at the bottom of the post

This week's video:
Link: Bryan Pardue - 2007 - Kei
Announcement: Here
Editor: Bryan Pardue (SF3P0X1)
Category: Character Profile
Anime: Please Teacher (OVA) [Spoilers], Please Teacher (TV) [Spoilers]
Song: Jars of Clay - He
Tags: [Mild Sexual Content]

To participate:
Please download the video, write an opinion for it, then continue the discussion here. If you just feel like contributing without reading the log IRC log that's OK. Next week show up for the discussion in IRC!

IRC Log of discussion:
Participants: quadir (Olivier Beaton), Prodigi (Cal W.), Fall_Child42 (Todd Serge), godix, G_Q (GloryQuestor - John Wendel), trythil, inthesto (Alex Ying), Teya, CrackTheSky (Ben Sobotka), Kionon
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21:02 <@quadir> Video Link will be in the topic shortly, please bear with us. We'll allow 10-15 minutes for people to watch and write a decent op before starting the discussion. There's going to be a bonus (no op required) video at the end of discussion. :)
21:03 -!- Prodigi has joined #amv-review
21:03 <@quadir> the point is 1) give an op 2) discuss the video
21:03 < Prodigi> : \
21:03 < Prodigi> wut vid
21:04 -!- quadir changed the topic of #amv-review to: auth w/ nickserv | watch+op before you comment | http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... _id=140668
21:04 <@quadir> Video: Bryan Pardue - 2007 - Kei
21:04 <@quadir> Link: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... _id=140668
21:04 <@quadir> Editor: Bryan Pardue (SF3P0X1)
21:04 <@quadir> Category: Character Profile
21:04 <@quadir> Anime: Please Teacher (OVA) [Spoilers], Please Teacher (TV) [Spoilers]
21:04 <@quadir> Song: Jars of Clay - He
21:04 <@quadir> Tags: [Mild Sexual Content]
21:04 -!- G_Q has joined #amv-review
21:05 <@quadir> >>> Video Link in the topic, please watch and op it (remember to save text in notepad before submitting) before joining the discussion here <<<
21:05 <+Fall_Child42> WMV :|
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21:05 < godix> 50 hits. That's gonna be doubled by this.
21:06 < Prodigi> he used wmm2
21:06 < Prodigi> not gonna happen
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21:06 < G_Q> The container's bad, but I've made a quality vid with lossless video source before.
21:07 < G_Q> So it is possible to get good-looking videos from WMVs.
21:07 * G_Q checks the video out.
21:07 <+Fall_Child42> lemings OC remix
21:07 <+Fall_Child42> is it really jittery for anyone else?
21:08 < G_Q> Not for me, but I just started it.
21:09 <@quadir> nah, it plays smooth
21:09 <@quadir> but I had seeking problems in vlc so I switched to windows media player
21:09 < G_Q> Yeah, it's pretty smooth for me in WMP
21:09 < G_Q> Good tip: Don't play WMV in VLC, ever.
21:09 < G_Q> VLC hates Windows Media.
21:09 < trythil> actually, it's more like
21:09 < trythil> Windows Media hates anything non-Microsoft
21:10 <+Fall_Child42> oh well WMPC won't play this smooth for me
21:10 < G_Q> "Pochy Chocolate"?
21:10 < godix> There is some jerky scenes but they aren't until halfway through and they're mistakes from the editor rather than playback.
21:11 <+Fall_Child42> mine are definately playback
21:11 < G_Q> Which version of WMP do you have?
21:11 * G_Q has WMP 11
21:11 <@quadir> same
21:12 <+Fall_Child42> ok honestly i would have turned this off by now
21:12 < trythil> hmm
21:12 < trythil> I'm not even getting video
21:12 < trythil> oh wait
21:12 < trythil> there it goes
21:13 <@quadir> Fall_Child42: playback issues eh?
21:13 <+Fall_Child42> no
21:13 < godix> The guys lucky I no longer can op. I'd crucify this thing. Not in my usual mean way, in a totally legit 'here's exactly what it's problems are' way.
21:13 * G_Q needs to watch this a few more times.
21:13 <+Fall_Child42> it's boring :|
21:13 <+Fall_Child42> sound is bad
21:13 <@quadir> Fall_Child42: op it anyways then :)
21:13 <+Fall_Child42> not much synch
21:13 <@quadir> yeah I found the sound a bit rough
21:13 <+Fall_Child42> lol hue cycling
21:13 <@quadir> so I didn't turn it up a lot
21:14 <@quadir> I haven't seen the anime, but I found myself with a lot of indirect synch between the song and the anime
21:14 < trythil> OH MY GOD, NUDE OLD MAN
21:14 <@quadir> like at the beginning of the video, you're hearing all the kids playing
21:14 <@quadir> and it's doing slow zooms of the school
21:15 <@quadir> then the guitar sets in and he starts cutting to different parts of the school, and the drums come in and it starts the character/profile
21:15 < inthesto> WAIT WAIT WAIT
21:15 < inthesto> WHAT DO I DO
21:15 <+Fall_Child42> stock film grain effect :\
21:15 <@quadir> inthesto: download the vid in the topic
21:15 <@quadir> inthesto: watch it in windows media player
21:15 <@quadir> inthesto: or something that plays it
21:16 <@quadir> inthesto: op it
21:16 <@quadir> inthesto: then come back here
21:16 <@quadir> and discuss
21:16 <@quadir> >>> Video Link in the topic, please watch and op it (remember to save text in notepad before submitting) before joining the discussion here <<<
21:16 <@quadir> there's lots of word synch
21:16 <@quadir> like 'daddy don't you love me' at 2:14 with the shot of the naked guy hanging out the window covered in kisses
21:17 < trythil> what the hell
21:17 < trythil> this song is depressing
21:17 <@quadir> but then you have some less-than-subtle indirect synch at 2:20 with 'mommy don't you love me' but no shot a of a woman, just the main char tied to a bed struggling and scared as hell
21:18 <+Fall_Child42> I was really distracted by the Static of the song to try and pay attention to lyrics
21:18 < trythil> it's, uh
21:19 < trythil> depressing
21:19 < trythil> well
21:19 < trythil> I guess it depends on how you interpret the song
21:19 < trythil> *I* sure as hell don't think it's cheerful
21:19 <@quadir> Fall_Child42: you talking about the hue cycling at 3:58?
21:19 < trythil> and as for the video, sure, I think scenes matched with individual phrases
21:20 < trythil> but as far as any sort of gestalt is concerned
21:20 < trythil> I unno
21:20 <@quadir> trythil: seriously, and then the video mixes in this whole sexual angsty relationship... with his PARENTS
21:20 < trythil> I'm still missing that
21:20 <+Fall_Child42> quadir he did it later.
21:20 <@quadir> Fall_Child42: yeah in the later part of the vid, when it goes all instrumental?
21:20 <+Fall_Child42> with a bad zoom manipulation too.
21:20 <@quadir> it's one of the very few effects in the vid
21:20 < Teya> so this jitteryness isn't just my comp?
21:21 <+Fall_Child42> sadly no.
21:21 < trythil> it's not jittery here
21:21 < Teya> all vids i've played recently do that, so i wasn't sure
21:21 <@quadir> no jittery here in window media player
21:21 < trythil> i'm just trying the idea in this v ideo
21:21 < trythil> er, to find the idea
21:21 < trythil> and um
21:21 < trythil> I can't
21:21 <+Fall_Child42> there are a few scenes in there that are jittery due to editor error
21:21 < Teya> hm okay i'll try
21:21 <@quadir> trythil: well, it's a relationship profile... or is that a sentimental vid? I'm not sure
21:22 < trythil> it is that
21:22 < trythil> and I'm trying to find some connection between that and everything else
21:22 < trythil> it's either incredibly deep or simply not there
21:22 < trythil> and I'm not sure which one it is
21:22 <@quadir> lol 'exaustion takes over' and the girl goes over the side of the school
21:22 < trythil> but given the genius/fool ratio of the human species
21:22 <+Fall_Child42> I betting not there
21:22 < trythil> I'm leaning towards the latter
21:22 < inthesto> trythil: I'm going to go for the second choice
21:23 < trythil> that, or I should stop trying to read into the song
21:23 < trythil> and just try to sync it on a word-for-word basis
21:23 < trythil> at which point it makes more sense
21:23 <@quadir> in my op I mentioned how the word synch might have detracted from any kind of deeper message he might have pulled off with the vid
21:23 < godix> Boy, this guy is gonna love reading the sudden rash of op telling him it's simply not there.
21:23 < inthesto> Well, the mood of the video barely matches the mood of the music or the lyrics
21:23 < Teya> i dunno if the person who made the vid knew what the song is about
21:23 <@quadir> trythil: whenever I did that I kept going back to mood/relationship synch
21:24 <@quadir> godix: feedback > no feedback
21:24 < inthesto> Out of curiosity, did this dude volunteer to have his video reviewed?
21:24 <@quadir> nope
21:24 <@quadir> well
21:24 <@quadir> actually yes
21:24 <@quadir> http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... hp?t=78061
21:24 < trythil> quadir: it's more like I feel that the song has very deep roots in the Christian ideology, i.e. divine love
21:24 < trythil> and uh
21:24 < trythil> is comparatively
21:24 < trythil> shallow
21:24 <@quadir> but I would of picked it if I found it elsewhere
21:24 < trythil> this video
21:24 < godix> quadir: Not for everyone. One of the reasons I quit giving serious ops a couple years ago is the for many honest feedback pisses them off.
21:24 < trythil> or maybe it isn't
21:25 < trythil> and the deeper meaning is buried below, likee
21:25 * G_Q is posting an op.
21:25 <@quadir> G_Q: great :)
21:25 < Teya> trythil: do you know the group?
21:25 < trythil> or past the background microwave radiation
21:25 < trythil> something that you need to build WMAP for
21:25 < trythil> Teya: not really, I'm just going off the lyrics
21:25 < Teya> trythil: they're veryvery christian. good call.
21:25 <@quadir> Teya: can you tell us a bit about the background of the song? maybe that would help
21:25 < inthesto> quad: Is that a topic on Op Exchange? I can't view it because I'm banned and am too lazy to switch comps
21:26 < inthesto> And yeah, I can't make any connection between the song and the video after the first line
21:26 < Teya> i'm not Christian, so it's hard for me to interpret well.. but one sec while i look up the lyrics to remind myself
21:26 < Teya> the end is fairly obvious: he loves you, he sees you, etc
21:27 < godix> sto: It's a video announcement.
21:27 < Teya> oh this is interesting...
21:27 < trythil> essentially I feel that the song is about overcoming terrible earthly pain with the aid of Jesus Christ
21:27 < trythil> and
21:27 < inthesto> o
21:27 < trythil> while I do think there's more than one interpretation
21:28 < CrackTheSky> Hmm
21:28 < trythil> I'm not able to connect whatever the visuals are with anything in that set of interpretations
21:28 < CrackTheSky> Like the band a lot, but I didn't like this video
21:28 < trythil> unless I take it one phrase at a time
21:28 < inthesto> I can't even do that
21:28 < trythil> if I interpret this peephole-style like a compiler
21:28 < trythil> it makes sense
21:28 < inthesto> Anyways, I'm supposed to write an op for this guy?
21:28 < G_Q> Okay, I have it posted.
21:28 < G_Q> So, now what, quadir?
21:28 < Teya> i'd agree.. talks about parents hurting/beating a child
21:29 < Teya> tries to remind child that jesus will look after him/her
21:29 < inthesto> Yeah, the scene of Kei tied up on the bed couldn't be any worse of a choice, relaly
21:29 < trythil> I dunno
21:30 < trythil> I just don't think it's appropriate for a character/relationship profile
21:30 < G_Q> My opinion was much more "wtf" than anything else.
21:30 <@quadir> inthesto: that would be nice
21:30 < trythil> especially not one that purports to be "Kei's mature side"
21:30 < trythil> but that's just me
21:30 <@quadir> G_Q: I'm giving people a chance to write up their ops
21:30 < G_Q> For a Windows Media video, it's actually quite quality.
21:30 < Teya> since the lyrics are fuzzy, it lends itself more to interpreting differently
21:30 < trythil> I think I'll post this chat log
21:31 < G_Q> Overall, though, it's an artistic nightmare >_<
21:31 <@quadir> trythil: I am going to
21:31 < trythil> hmm
21:31 <@quadir> trythil: so no worries there
21:31 < inthesto> I really don't know what to say about this video
21:31 < G_Q> I haven't seen Please Teacher, but I've seen other videos with Please Teacher that were a lot better represented than this one.
21:31 < inthesto> Other than "You obviously had no understanding of the lyrics"
21:31 < godix> trythil: I liked those references. I didn't know you had it in you.
21:31 <@quadir> I'll be triming it a bit
21:31 <+Fall_Child42> is this about jesus rape?
21:31 < G_Q> And now, I go.
21:32 < inthesto> It's about life raping somebody and Jesus comes to the rescue
21:32 -!- G_Q has quit
21:32 < inthesto> Not sure what hue cycling funny anime faces has to do with that
21:32 <@quadir> I think that was just a nice effect to put during the instrumental bit
21:32 <@quadir> in each instrumental bit it does a scene pan or something benign
21:32 < trythil> I mean
21:33 <+Fall_Child42> hue cycling is NEVER a nice effect
21:33 < trythil> there's a wide continuum between subtle points
21:33 < trythil> and beating someone over the head with the pointhammer
21:33 <+Fall_Child42> well TWICE it was
21:33 < inthesto> Ignoring the scene selection, then editing actually isn't too bad
21:33 <+Fall_Child42> but no more
21:33 < trythil> I don't really know where this fits in
21:33 < inthesto> But the scene selection really is...
21:33 < inthesto> just
21:33 < inthesto> not there at all
21:33 < godix> Ok, hands up, did anyone see anything in the first 120 seconds of the video that was at all interesting?
21:34 <@quadir> no need for that, I think we've all watched it
21:34 <@quadir> but you're right that it was a bit long
21:34 < trythil> I want some Pocky now
21:34 < inthesto> 0:56 - 1:03 isn't so bad
21:34 < trythil> >_>
21:34 < trythil> <_<
21:34 <@quadir> and maybe cutting the song short or removing verses would of helped on that front
21:34 < inthesto> Really just goes downhill from there, though
21:34 <@quadir> I think we're winding down, does everyone who can have their ops in?
21:34 <@quadir> I'll drop the bonus vid in a sec
21:34 < inthesto> I'm not sure I have a useful op to give
21:35 < inthesto> "Your scene selection sucks, ggpo"
21:35 < trythil> ggpo?
21:35 < inthesto> Good game, peace out
21:35 < trythil> oh
21:35 <@quadir> inthesto: well you have some nice things to say
21:35 < godix> quadir: It wasn't the length. It was the fact that he didn't even show a character until around a minute.
21:35 < inthesto> Okay, let me amend that
21:35 < trythil> no
21:35 < trythil> he never does
21:35 < trythil> :P
21:35 < inthesto> "Your scene selection sucks. Everything else was mediocre to decent. ggpo"
21:35 <@quadir> trythil: kind of a slow starting song
21:36 < trythil> i don't really mind that
21:36 < inthesto> I -really- don't feel like fishing timestamps out
21:36 < trythil> I'm just trying to find the meaning
21:36 < trythil> and I can't
21:36 <@quadir> inthesto: nothing wrong with an 'average' vid, if you look at people's 'favorite' vids they always have 2-3 they just end up liking even if it's not the best in the world
21:36 * inthesto will take ten or so minutes to write an op
21:36 <@quadir> thanks :)
21:36 <@quadir> well
21:36 <@quadir> er
21:36 <@quadir> lol
21:36 < inthesto> Since I guess this guy could possibly benefit from geniune critique
21:37 <@quadir> no need to fish timestamps really
21:37 < inthesto> Meh, I find timestamps help illustrate what I'm talking about
21:37 -!- G_Q has joined #amv-review
21:37 < inthesto> Otherwise I just have vague generalizations, and the other guy is left wondering what the hell I'm talking about
21:37 <+Fall_Child42> done.
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21:38 < Kionon> Oh shit.
21:38 <@quadir> yeah Kionon sortof gave me the inspiration to this discussion
21:38 <@quadir> then he didn't show
21:38 < Teya> haha
21:38 <@quadir> but I forgive him
21:39 < G_Q> Hi Kio
21:39 <@quadir> go download
21:39 < Teya> just finished my op.. that's probably one of my first =P
21:39 * Kionon downloads.
21:39 <@quadir> its wmv but I know you'll forgive me
21:39 <@quadir> play it in windows media player though
21:39 < G_Q> Anyway, yeah, it's 126th of my 126 ops.
21:39 < trythil> though, I must say
21:39 <@quadir> vlc aint liking it
21:39 <+Fall_Child42> this is going to bring down my helpfullness rating ;_;
21:39 < G_Q> That's how bad it rated >_<
21:39 <+Fall_Child42> Bastids.
21:40 < trythil> that no video can beat Fat Italian Man In Karate Uniform Playing Italo Disco
21:40 < trythil> aka Koto
21:40 < Teya> i was probably overly kind. i have definitely seen better
21:41 < Kionon> I really am impressed by the turnout.
21:41 <@quadir> I have a log I'll be posting it later
21:44 < Kionon> my connection to local sucks donkey ballz.
21:45 < Kionon> I'm only pulling 18kb/s
21:44 < Kionon> dammit
21:46 < inthesto> Do I just submit the op now?
21:46 <@quadir> inthesto: yes please
21:46 <@quadir> we've all been submitting them
23:43 < Kionon> COMPLETE
23:43 <@quadir> awsome
23:43 * Kionon watches.
23:46 < Kionon> Opening fails.
23:46 < Kionon> Bumper I mean.
23:47 <@quadir> yeah my QC for him was 'at least cut the audio for your bumper'
23:47 <@quadir> although at least his song choice wasn't completely in your face
23:47 <@quadir> and jarring
23:48 * Kionon has headphones a-blastin
23:48 < Kionon> I just don't see the lyrical synch.
23:50 < Kionon> This is an experiment in video editing. It isn't a full video.
23:50 < Kionon> I can see where he's trying out different effects and seeing what this does and that does, etc.
23:51 <@quadir> it's 5 minutes long
23:51 <@quadir> how can it be an experiment
23:51 <@quadir> it's also his 15th video
23:51 < Kionon> I mean he had no-
23:51 < Kionon> Oh.
23:51 <@quadir> I hope he's done his effects tryout vid already
23:51 < Kionon> I am giving him way too much credit.
23:52 < Kionon> I thought this was a first.
23:52 < Kionon> I'd hate to see his first.
23:52 < Kionon> Well. Uh.
23:52 < Kionon> Damn.
23:52 <@quadir> it so happens to be local, but let's focus on this one, he did it just in January
23:52 < Kionon> This video sucked.
23:52 <@quadir> he's done another one more recently but it's not the one he had posted in announcements
23:52 <@quadir> ( starts it rolling again )
23:53 <@quadir> Kionon: I saw a lot of really narrow lyric synch, both direct and indirect
23:53 <@quadir> and some narrow mood synch with instrumental vs vocals
23:54 < Kionon> Oh, I certainly saw the LITERAL sync.
23:54 <@quadir> are you seeing either of those? I mean the first shot of the video is basicly lyric synch
23:54 < Kionon> But that's just laziness.
23:54 < Kionon> And it shows a severe lack of concept.
23:54 <@quadir> I should mention I haven't seen the series
23:54 < Kionon> I have.
23:54 < Kionon> I own it.
23:54 < Kionon> And the video doesn't fit.
23:55 < Kionon> The song, in fact, is a christian song directed at He.
23:55 < Kionon> THE He.
23:55 < Kionon> Almighty He.
23:55 <@quadir> true, although you don't have to take it that way
23:55 <@quadir> or go that deep into the song
23:55 < Kionon> No, I don't. But the editing didn't exactly change my direction.
23:55 <@quadir> obviously given the narrow lyric synch it's not meant to
23:56 < Kionon> I'm watching my first video.
23:56 < Kionon> I had some similar problems.
23:57 <@quadir> at the start of the video you have the scene where he says 'hes already dead', then we're basicly going into flashback land to his
relationship with this woman
23:57 < Kionon> But you said it was his 15th?
23:57 <@quadir> yeah, it is
23:57 < Kionon> WTF mate.
23:57 < Kionon> Remember I said I gave low scores if deserved?
23:58 < Kionon> This video is going to have some threes at least.
23:58 <@quadir> sure, that's fair, especially considering the audio at higher volumes
23:58 < Kionon> It's just that I would normally never give an op to this video.
23:59 < Kionon> This person has shown no capacity to grow or to learn, but rather has triple the amount of videos I have, in no doubt one third of the time.
23:59 < Kionon> It would be wasted effort
00:02 <@quadir> Kionon: I do admit that the indrect synch at 2:26 was sortof unerving with him talking about his mother loving him and the footage being a
bit silly of him tied up and terrified to a bed
00:03 < Kionon> Seriously. I don't think this video deserved to be your number one choice.
00:03 <@quadir> I thought it had a lot of elements that could be talked about
00:03 < Kionon> It'd be one thing if it was video number one like I assumed.
00:04 < Kionon> Sure. If I thought he cared about getting better.
00:04 <@quadir> it if doesn't have much you can mention, then next week might be better :)
00:04 <@quadir> Kionon: give him the benefit of the doupt here
00:04 < Kionon> Oh it has plenty I can mention.
00:04 <@quadir> some people just take a lot of practice and feedback to really start hitting things right
00:04 <@quadir> Kionon: what was your favorite thing about it?
00:04 < Kionon> I guess I'll make an exception.
00:05 < Kionon> Honestly? Tone.
00:05 < Kionon> I think the tone of the song fit the tone of the original series.
00:05 < Kionon> They were a good "feel" together.
00:05 * quadir nods.
00:05 <@quadir> it does feel cohesive
00:06 <@quadir> although as trythil pointed out earlier
00:06 <@quadir> where it's cohesively going...
00:06 <@quadir> nobody seems to know
00:07 < inthesto> Video sure as hell didn't feel cohesive to me
00:07 < Kionon> The song fit the anime. The execution simply wasn't there.
00:07 < Kionon> He didn't storyboard.
00:07 < Kionon> He got a feeling and then tossed it together with little thought.
00:08 < Kionon> He attempted a bare minimum of literal lyric syncs, which are just laughable at best.
00:08 < Kionon> I wouldn't be this harsh, but 15 videos?
00:10 <@quadir> a lot of video's I've seen don't even bother to lyric synch at all
00:10 <@quadir> and just go with anime + song feel
00:10 <@quadir> are you giving him enough slack that not every video is Brad DeMoss?
00:11 < Kionon> That's the beginning of video planning. Not the end.
00:11 < Kionon> Bah. Brad.
00:11 < Kionon> Is it my turn to spill on him this year or vice versa?
00:11 <@quadir> I could name anyone else really
00:11 <@quadir> that is more high profile, say, kusoyaro
00:12 <@quadir> if I'm even pronouncing his nic right
00:12 <@quadir> Hsien Lee I think anyways
00:12 < Kionon> Trust me I've opped some pretty shitty videos when I feel the person is trying.
00:12 < Kionon> And I often leave constructive criticism for first vides in announcements.
00:12 <@quadir> and if this was #15, if it took 15 videos for this person to this point, you think he's just given up?
00:13 < Kionon> Yes. Actually. Or didn't care in the first place.
00:15 < Kionon> If he has better, I'd like to see it.
00:15 <@quadir> I'm not saying he does, yet
00:15 <@quadir> it just meant he's done some stuff before, and it's gotten him to the point of doing decent linear direct and indirect lyrich synch and
matching anime and song well together
00:16 <@quadir> he's not singing to your heart yet
00:20 <@quadir> any last words about the vid before I post this discussion up?
00:21 < Kionon> Without watching his entire catalog it is hard to know if he's improved, or how to rate his effort.
00:22 < inthesto> Improving is for chumps anyway
00:22 < Kionon> If I could give numbers, I would likely peg originality at a 7, visual at 5, audio at 3, sync at 3, effort at 5, review at 1.
00:23 <@quadir> ooouch
Bonus Video:
This video is on a optional-op basis, and thrown in so people have something fun or interesting at the end that didn't make the cut for this week's video choice
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Link: (mounkeygirl - Anna) - 2007 - Team Rocket [On Brigadoon]
Editor: Anna (mounkeygirl)
Category: Parody
Anime: Brigadoon [Spoilers]
Song: Pokemon 2.B.A Master OST - Double Trouble

If you want to discuss this video, please clearly indicate BONUS video in your post
IRC Log of BONUS discussion:
Participants: quadir (Olivier Beaton), godix, G_Q (GloryQuestor - John Wendel), trythil, inthesto (Alex Ying), Teya
21:40 <@quadir> so to tide you over until Kionon finishing download + watching + op
21:40 <@quadir> BONUS VID
21:40 <@quadir> no op required
21:41 <@quadir> BONUS VID op if it scratches you: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... p?v=140739
21:41 -!- inthesto has quit [Ping timeout]
21:43 -!- quadir changed the topic of #amv-review to: auth w/ nickserv | watch before you comment | http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... _id=140739
21:43 <@quadir> Video: (mounkeygirl - Anna) - 2007 - Team Rocket [On Brigadoon]
21:43 <@quadir> Link: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... p?v=140739
21:43 <@quadir> Editor: Anna (mounkeygirl)
21:43 <@quadir> Category: Parody
21:43 <@quadir> Anime: Brigadoon [Spoilers]
21:43 <@quadir> Song: YOU WILL HAVE TO SEE
21:43 <@quadir> that's the bonus vid
21:43 <@quadir> for those that haven't gotten to it yet
21:43 <@quadir> I'm gona switch to looping it instead
21:44 < godix> For what it's worth, link to the video profile not the download link.
21:44 < trythil> DOUBLE TROUBLE
21:45 <@quadir> godix: I did in the topic
21:45 <@quadir> godix: I just wanted a bit of a suprise for peeps :)
21:45 <@quadir> for those that don't look at the download info screen
21:45 < Teya> >_<
21:45 -!- inthesto has joined #amv-review
21:45 <@quadir> wb inhesto
21:45 <@quadir> bonus vid in the topic
21:46 < inthesto> Hate my school's connection
21:46 < trythil> oh shit
21:46 < trythil> bonus vid
21:47 < trythil> oh wait
21:47 < trythil> Brigadoon the anime
21:47 <@quadir> anyone watch the bonus vid yet?
21:47 <@quadir> yeah it is
21:47 < trythil> boo
21:47 < Teya> just finished downloading..
21:47 < trythil> I was hoping for the musical
21:47 <@quadir> I know, it's a pretty lame combo
21:47 < trythil> Team Rocket doing THAT would be have been awesome
21:48 <@quadir> no team rocket in the video footage
21:48 <@quadir> just audio
21:48 < trythil> no Brigadoon in the video either
21:48 < trythil> :(
21:48 <@quadir> the anime/song choice was pretty obvious
21:48 <@quadir> but he pulled it off decently
21:48 <@quadir> even if his lip synch is a bit off
21:49 < godix> are we supposed to comment on the bonus video as well?
21:49 < trythil> I guess something that hip only shows up once every hundred years
21:49 < trythil> (lol)
21:49 < trythil> er wait
21:49 <@quadir> well 'mounkeygirl' could be a girl
21:49 < trythil> was it 70 or 100
21:49 < trythil> I'm betting it's a guy
21:49 <@quadir> trythil: watch it!
21:49 < trythil> because of the Zero Female Axiom
21:50 <@quadir> well she's linking to her family and 'friends'
21:50 <@quadir> but I'd expect a longer profile from a girl
21:50 < Teya> >_<
21:50 < G_Q> Finally, a Team Rocket rip that works.
21:52 <@quadir> G_Q: yeah I just thought it seemed lame to take a pokemon ripoff show and put it to an obvious pokemon song
21:52 <@quadir> G_Q: but it does end up wroking and being just different enough to be funny
21:52 <@quadir> er working
21:53 < inthesto> quad: I have to say that I like Unlimited Rice's vid to this song better :P
21:53 < godix> sto: What anime did he use?
21:54 < inthesto> RahXephon
21:54 < godix> I saw that one. It was amusing. Especially since IIRC his scene choice emulated pokemon rather well in some spots.
FAQ:
Q: How do I participate on this week's discussion now that it's already happened?
A: Never fear! You can post a reply on that week's thread, and continue the discussion there. Don't be shy. We do ask that you please download and op the video before posting here however.

Q: Do I have to read the IRC Discussion before posting?
A: No. But it might give you an idea what other people were saying about it, think of it like reading pages 1-10 of a really long forum thread before posting on page 11.

Q: Was this a one time thing?
A: We'll be doing this every week, Monday's at 9pm EDT with a new video every week.

Q: Can I suggest a video for next week?
A: Yes! You can PM quadir on the forums, or send an email to quadir@rogers.com (check the newest thread in case the contact information changes) -- please don't make suggestions in this thread.

Q: What kind of video would you show?
A: We ask that they are fairly new and are solid enough to have something to discuss on multiple fronts. We'd consider running a bonus vid of something older if it's undervalued or especially fun.

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Re: AMV Review 2007-03-19 Bryan Pardue's "Kei"

Post by Scintilla » Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:22 am

quadir wrote:21:33 <Fall_Child42> hue cycling is NEVER a nice effect
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Post by SF3P0X1 » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:37 am

I read the stuff. Thanks for the advice... I used hue cycling once before on a video, and I have yet to recieve a really bad review from it... >.< I shouldn't let that go to my head, though.

I have other stuff in the works, I just hate using WMM... it's so aggravating that I lose focus halfway through and just want to finish up the damned video!
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Post by JaddziaDax » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:39 pm

windows movie maker doesnt cause that sort of loss of interest...

having a short attention span does

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Post by quadir » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:43 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:having a short attention span does
Please keep things on topic about the video, not the author. Thanks

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Post by JaddziaDax » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:51 pm

uh fine. but i was just letting him know its not his programs fault for him having a short attention span :P

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Post by BasharOfTheAges » Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:52 pm

Interesting concept. If I have some time next week i'll try to join in.

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Post by JudgeHolden » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:58 am

I pretty sure, you are not allowed to post other people's videos .... :?

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Post by quadir » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:07 am

JudgeHolden wrote:I pretty sure, you are not allowed to post other people's videos .... :?
Thank you for your feedback. We'll be doing a new video (with more submissions to choose from this time) on monday.

As to why the after-discussion topic is in the "Opinion Exchange" forum, it is true it is hard to place. I read the description:
This forum is for members who are willing to volunteer opinions about your video. Please do not beg for video opinions here.
Emphasis mine. Seems to me it's saying that members can write opinions about videos here, and it asks editors not to ask for them explicitly. So this seemed true to that. If you'd like to suggest a better place, please, do so.

Hope to see you there!

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Post by JudgeHolden » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:26 am

I wouldn't post it anywhere .... You have to be rather short-sighted not to see how this will take a terrible turn .... (I've been around long enough to know where this is heading)

Now if the editor's in question VOLUNTEERED their OWN videos for this thread, then I would have no issues ..... :roll:


You might want to ask a mod about this ....

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