AMV Review #7: 2007-04-30

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AMV Review #7: 2007-04-30

Post by quadir » Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:02 pm

The concept: Flash-mob op an amv, discuss it in irc
Where: #amv-review server irc.zirc.org (web client)
When: Every Monday, 21:00 EDT (9pm) DL @ 20:30 EDT (8pm)

We are looking for 1 additional judge to pick the week's video. Judges are chosen based on constructive video submissions for the amv-review (pm me or email at quadir@animemusicvideos.org)

This week's video:
Link: (JenCM18 - Jennifer) - 2007 - Forever Yours
Editor: Jennifer (JenCM18)
Category: Romance
Anime: Mahoromatic [Spoilers], Mahoromatic ~Something More Beautiful~ [Spoilers]
Song: Nickelback - Far Away
Tags: [Mild Nudity]

Please don't feel you need to read the irc log before jumping into the discussion here!

IRC Log of discussion (see first reply for Quadir's Highlights):
Participants: `Eclipse (Dark Velocity EX - Blake Stevens), CrackTheSky (Ben Sobotka), godix, G_Q (GloryQuestor - John Wendel), jonnkakarotto (Jim Morrison), Nunchuck, quadir (Olivier Beaton), shumira_chan, szwagier (Paul Gaska), teya
Edited IRC Log wrote:20:32 <quadir> Video: (JenCM18 - Jennifer) - 2007 - Forever Yours
20:32 <quadir> Editor: Jennifer (JenCM18)
20:32 <quadir> Category: Romance
20:32 <quadir> Anime: Mahoromatic [Spoilers], Mahoromatic ~Something More Beautiful~ [Spoilers]
20:32 <quadir> Song: Nickelback - Far Away
20:32 <quadir> Tags: [Mild Nudity]
20:32 <quadir> Video Link in the topic, please watch and op it, discussion will start at 9pm EDT. Remember to stay for the bonus vid discussion!
20:32 <G_Q> Let's go! ^_^
20:33 <CrackTheSky> Ugh, Nickelback
20:33 <godix> Romance? You bastard.
20:33 <jonnkakarotto> Nickelback?
20:33 * G_Q has no problems with Romance. :|
20:45 <godix> Wow. JenCM18 is definately in the right studio. This is exactly like something bakadeshi would do if bakadeshi didn't use effects.
20:45 <Nunchuck> ah i have seen this one :D
20:46 <quadir> it's kind of funny but this is infact the first of her videos I've downloaded
20:46 <quadir> at least on local, but she's only 2003 so not that old
20:46 <godix> Same here. I'm not a fan of the genre so I tend to ignore it entirely.
20:46 <jonnkakarotto> godix: seconded
20:48 <godix> Does it fucking end? I swear it's been leading up to an ending for about 3 minutes now.
20:48 <godix> Ah. There we go. It's done.
20:49 <godix> The ending filler type crap was like half the video.
21:04 <godix> Decent but boring videos are hard to op. There's not really anything to say other than 'you didn't fuck up badly but you did bore me.'
21:04 <CrackTheSky> ^Agreed
21:05 <quadir> is it just me or does the character art change in the second series?
21:05 <G_Q> For a romance video, though, I thought it was very good. It did what most videos of this type are supposed to do -- show two people in love.
21:05 <shumira_chan> It's a nice, well-made archetypical romance AMV. It's almost the definition of a romance AMV. I think this AMV should be mentioned in the dictionary definition of what a romance AMV is. Too bad it's also what 99.99% of all AMV editors believe a romance AMV should be: a romantic song set to romantic couple scenes. There's no story here, no further insight other than showing a romantic couple being romantic. It's clearly what t
21:05 <G_Q> quadir: It probably did.
21:05 <CrackTheSky> It felt really...typical
21:06 <CrackTheSky> Nothing surprised me at all
21:06 <CrackTheSky> Very cliche editing, as well
21:06 <quadir> the character art mixing reminded me of old-school Trigun vids... who mixed in the Trigun movie where he looks completely different
21:07 <szwagier> well Nickelback + romance cathegory = what did you expect? :O But yeah, technically it's good, and it have some mood (even though it's not as strong as romance should have)
21:07 <CrackTheSky> I saw a lot of problem with beat sync
21:07 <quadir> shumira_chan: I think you really hit it when you said that nothing else is shown
21:07 <Nunchuck> I don't like Nickelback romance
21:07 * G_Q agrees with Crack.
21:07 * jonnkakarotto agrees with Nunchuck
21:07 <`Eclipse> same here
21:07 <quadir> shumira_chan: I found myself going 'do they ever show something other then the two hugging each other?'
21:07 <G_Q> There were many problems I saw in the sync.
21:08 <jonnkakarotto> The biggest problems I saw with the sync were the snare beats
21:08 <godix> I give her full credit. She didn't go the angsty romance vid route of showing nothing but people just staring into space. Decent sync, although actually it had too much sync, good video quality. Good editing. Boring as fuck.
21:08 <CrackTheSky> I felt like it was oversynched for one, and poorly synched a lot of the time
21:08 <jonnkakarotto> I saw those and was like "WTF? Isn't that something you'd put in action video?"
21:08 <shumira_chan> Like I said, quad, it's what the editor intended. I think she(?) is very happy with this vid, and I can understand that.
21:08 <szwagier> Actually I think if she would sync it more it wuld be a lot worser...
21:08 <jonnkakarotto> lol @ godix
21:08 <G_Q> True.
21:09 <Nunchuck> I liked the beat sync
21:09 <G_Q> My main negative was that many of the fade outs seemed to not match the beat.
21:09 <jonnkakarotto> I too felt like the video was "Boring as fuck."
21:09 <Nunchuck> Kind of waked me up :>
21:10 <szwagier> also I don;t actually get what is the reason oval masks are there, other then "cool romance videos have them, so this one will have them too" :<
21:10 <G_Q> jonn: It's not original in the romantic vein, that's agreed.
21:10 <godix> It appeared too synced to me. If the sync was on time or not I can't say. After about a minute my mind started wandering to other things until the fucking ending that wouldn't end kicked in. Then I thought 'Oh yeah, I'm supposed to pay attention to this or something'.
21:10 <jonnkakarotto> G_Q: indeed.
21:10 <CrackTheSky> szwagier: Yeah, you have a good point
21:10 <quadir> on the plus side, this anime, at least the first one... is a ecchi comedy-harem anime
21:11 <quadir> the vid comes accross a bit more serious then the anime
21:11 <godix> quadir: The anime may be but you'd never know that from watching the video.
21:11 * G_Q has never seen Mahromatic.
21:11 <shumira_chan> I wish AMV editors would go beyond simple puppy love when making romance AMVs.
21:11 <G_Q> I pretty much admitted that in my review.
21:11 * jonnkakarotto hasn't seen it either
21:11 <quadir> godix: exacly, so in that way the editor created *some* depth that wasn't there before
21:11 <jonnkakarotto> seconded
21:11 <quadir> shumira_chan: they do.. tune in same bat time... some other week!
21:11 <godix> I still think someone needs to do a romance video to Smack My Bitch Up. Maybe that's just me though.
21:11 <`Eclipse> hahhah
21:11 <G_Q> shumira: I could recommend one to you, if you like.
21:11 <jonnkakarotto> !
21:12 <godix> quadir: Depth or did she just dump anything that wasn't sappy boring shit from the anime?
21:12 <jonnkakarotto> godix! That's a brilliant idea
21:12 <Nunchuck> I kind of felt that the whole thing should have been a minute shorter
21:12 <quadir> godix: as far as the 'when is it going to end' probably because the whole video is couple scenes... which usually END romance vids as they are finally together
21:12 <godix> jonnkakarotto: have fun with mixing music styles. A romance video that mixes Smack my Bitch Up and Goodbye Earl.
21:12 <shumira_chan> Almost all avoid the sexual aspect of a serious relationship. This is probably because the editors are themselves rather immature and/or to avoid any censorship issues.
21:12 <szwagier> quadir: inded, she did make it more deep than mahoromatic, but then why are they still some comedy parts? I don't see the reason for deformed characters in romance video (except it being a comedy romance)
21:12 <Nunchuck> It would have been a lot better, because after a while the stuff just wouldn't end even though you expected it to be :/
21:12 <jonnkakarotto> haven't heard Goodbye Earl
21:13 <godix> quadir: No, the 'when does it end' thing is because the video should have ended around 3:30 or so and didn't.
21:13 <quadir> the swirly transparency thing sucked :(
21:13 <godix> jonnkakarotto: Dixie Chicks. It's all about women poisoning an abusive husband and dumping his body in the lake. Fairly upbeat actually which is funny considering the songs meaning.
21:13 <jonnkakarotto> Yeah, I wan't too fond of that one myself
21:13 <quadir> I mean it was even used over the house background shot
21:13 <jonnkakarotto> godix: interesting
21:13 <quadir> if anything it's a nice frame when it was introduced for mahoro at the railing
21:13 <jonnkakarotto> godix: I shall look into it
21:14 <quadir> but to use it on scenery shots?
21:14 <shumira_chan> Immature romance AMVs are probably forgivable when a 15-year old girl makes her first. I would expect a bit more from a 22(?) year old woman who has made 54 AMVs.
21:16 <quadir> godix: and mohoro isn't really angsty
21:16 <`Eclipse> i haven't seen many romance vids, so i can't say whether it was overused or not. but i liked it. although it was way too long
21:16 <quadir> oh, and one giant + for this video is no TEACHER
21:16 <Nunchuck> I think that this video is not reviewable at all even though he edited very good :>
21:17 <`Eclipse> i liked that scene where the corners were all 'blacked' out
21:17 <`Eclipse> that was a nice addition
21:17 <G_Q> Nunchuch: Even videos like these have good points, though.
21:17 <G_Q> As a romance video, in comparison to many others, it's actually quite good. Just not entirely original in comparison.
21:18 <jonnkakarotto> G_Q: I would tend to agree. I've seen a fair share of "romance" videos, but most of them sucked ass anyway
21:18 <`Eclipse> there were some cool fades in the beginning
21:18 <`Eclipse> but there was some fast cuts that were off-sync o.=
21:18 <Nunchuck> the beginning was awesum :>
21:18 <godix> GQ: Oh yeah. It's a fairly well editing video. And boring as fuck. Nice editing. And boring as fuck. Good image quality. And boring as fuck. Better than the average romance. And boring as fuck.
21:18 <CrackTheSky> lol
21:18 <jonnkakarotto> lol
21:19 <CrackTheSky> The fast beats at 3:08 were off
21:19 <jonnkakarotto> yes
21:19 <Nunchuck> rofl
21:19 <jonnkakarotto> we can all agree on that, godix
21:19 <CrackTheSky> Like, frustratingly
21:19 <`Eclipse> so the point is
21:19 <`Eclipse> it's boring as fuck?
21:19 <teya> heh
21:19 -!- shumira_chan has left #amv-review
21:19 <teya> okay...
21:19 <`Eclipse> =P
21:19 <jonnkakarotto> that
21:19 <jonnkakarotto> was odd
21:19 <godix> Eclipse: Did I give that impression? I was afraid I was being to subtle and people wouldn't pick up that I thought the video was boring.
21:20 <teya> i found it fairly boring, too
21:20 <quadir> shumira_chan: thanks for staying for the bonus vid
21:20 <`Eclipse> godix: Nah, it's ok. You were spot on :)
21:20 <teya> as i said in my op, i thought it was a lot like a recap episode
21:20 <quadir> teya: except it wasn't really like mahoro at all
21:20 <szwagier> actually I didn't find it boring until the "ring ending" :O it just didn't leave strong impression, but didn't bore me either :O If this would be a bit shorter though it would gain :S
21:20 <teya> yeah? i didn't watch enough of mahoro to tell
21:21 <quadir> mahoro is like green green, this made it more love hina and yet even not that much comedy.. so like... ah my goddress?
21:21 <teya> the fade effect made it seem like memories flashing by
21:21 <teya> green green?
21:21 <`Eclipse> it was long too
21:21 <`Eclipse> i was expecting it to be done 'round the 3 minute mark
21:21 <jonnkakarotto> long vid is loooooooooooooooooooooooong
21:21 <`Eclipse> there was way too much stuff
21:22 <quadir> teya: think ecchi
21:22 <szwagier> green green is a bit more fucked up than mahoro actually :O it's something between love hina and green green
21:22 <jonnkakarotto> ecchi = win
21:22 <godix> Actually I could see this video winning Best Romance at a con somewhere.
21:22 <godix> Which, I suppose, is all the reason needed for cons everywhere to just fucking kill the romance category entirely.
21:23 <CrackTheSky> lol godix
21:23 <godix> Or perhaps cons should start with comedy, action, dance, etc. Then flash a huge warning sign "CAUTION: ROMANCE AND DRAMA SECTIONS ARE ALL THAT'S LEFT! GET OUT YOUR PILLOWS!"
Bonus Video:
Link: Matt Page - 2003 - Semi-Automatic Maiden Mahoro
Editor: Matt Page (fallout161)
Category: Action
Anime: Mahoromatic
Song: Apartment 26 - Untitled Bonus Track
Tags: [Mild Nudity]

If you want to discuss this video, please clearly indicate BONUS video in your post

IRC Log of discussion (see first reply for Quadir's Highlights):
Participants: `Eclipse (Dark Velocity EX - Blake Stevens), CrackTheSky (Ben Sobotka), godix, G_Q (GloryQuestor - John Wendel), jonnkakarotto (Jim Morrison), quadir (Olivier Beaton), szwagier (Paul Gaska), teya
Edited IRC Log wrote:21:24 <quadir> Video: Matt Page's - 2003 - Semi-Automatic Maiden Mahoro
21:24 <quadir> Editor: Matt Page (fallout161)
21:24 <quadir> Category: Action
21:24 <quadir> Anime: Mahoromatic
21:24 <quadir> Song: Apartment 26 - Untitled Bonus Track
21:24 <quadir> Tags: [Mild Nudity]
21:24 <szwagier> lol :O what's with the mahoromatic today? :P
21:24 <`Eclipse> mild nudity?
21:24 <`Eclipse> hmm
21:24 <jonnkakarotto> oh good
21:24 <quadir> I'm definatly interested in doing a serious discussion of this vid, if anyone is up to the challange :)
21:24 <jonnkakarotto> i like where this is going
21:24 <quadir> although no need to op, it's just the bonus vid
21:24 <`Eclipse> hah =P
21:25 <quadir> also.. it won't play in my vlc.. I had to play it in wmp
21:25 <godix> the bonus vid is slow. Maybe cause we're all downloading it or something.
21:26 <godix> quadir: We're all hitting it at once.
21:26 <jonnkakarotto> we're like /b/ when they go on raids
21:27 <CrackTheSky> lol
21:27 <G_Q> Interesting bonus vid choice. ^_^
21:27 <`Eclipse> what's that /b/ ? thing?
21:27 <jonnkakarotto> 4chan
21:27 <`Eclipse> never heard of it =(
21:28 * `Eclipse looks at 4cha's front page
21:28 <godix> I can hit it without having to log in or anything. (Ed: okay so editing out OT made this interesting...)
21:28 <`Eclipse> looking at the front page, i can only imagine the horros inside >.<
21:29 <`Eclipse> i don't like the website =(
21:30 <`Eclipse> so i'm staying away
21:34 <godix> you know the discussion is dead when the last two pages are us telling each other what our download speeds are....
21:35 * G_Q has it.
21:35 <G_Q> Any takers for DCC Sending?
21:35 <jonnkakarotto> G_Q: appreciate the offer, but I doubt it would be any better
21:35 <jonnkakarotto> WHOA!
21:36 <jonnkakarotto> VTECH JUST KICKED IN YO!
21:36 <G_Q> Okay, VLC hates this video...
21:37 <quadir> G_Q: yeah, wmp
21:38 <godix> 'k. got it
21:40 <G_Q> Interesting vid...
21:41 <godix> quadir: I like it but I'll save discussion for later.
21:41 <`Eclipse> it's done
21:46 <CrackTheSky> MPC does weird things to this video
21:46 <quadir> I would play it in wmp
21:46 <CrackTheSky> It like adds an extra three minutes to the end
21:47 <quadir> not because it's wmv but because it's weird mpg codec :(
21:47 <CrackTheSky> Yeah
21:47 <godix> I had no problem with MPC.
21:47 <CrackTheSky> It wasn't a problem, the video played fine
21:47 <jonnkakarotto> jeezus fuck!
21:48 <quadir> jonnkakarotto: still waiting on the download?
21:48 <jonnkakarotto> no
21:48 <jonnkakarotto> but
21:48 <jonnkakarotto> the video makes me want to watch mahoro now
21:48 <quadir> hahaha
21:48 * G_Q also.
21:48 <godix> Yes. good video.
21:48 <CrackTheSky> Same here...although I know it's probably nothing like the video
21:49 <jonnkakarotto> CrackTheSky: agreed.
21:49 <quadir> so yeah when I saw this video I crapped my pants
21:49 <quadir> it is NOTHING like mahoro at all
21:49 <CrackTheSky> I love it when editors take anime out of context like that
21:49 <quadir> except for the scene in the middle
21:49 <jonnkakarotto> I liked the ending
21:49 <quadir> if i could edit out the middle scene it would be perfect
21:49 <quadir> and yet it sortof fits at the same time
21:50 <quadir> but I was like soooooo close to completely removing anything mahoro like from it
21:50 <jonnkakarotto> I've never seen the anime, but I liked it quite a bit
21:50 <CrackTheSky> I liked the middle part
21:50 <CrackTheSky> It was an interesting contrast
21:50 <G_Q> And, yes, I thought it was a pretty nifty action vid.
21:50 <quadir> CrackTheSky: and it wasn't random since the whole fight scene follows
21:50 * jonnkakarotto watches the "middle part" again
21:50 <godix> It provided the one thing I always want to see in an action video and almost never do. A reason there's action. Granted, it's a fairly shallow presentation of the reason but still. Nice to know why person A is doing a beat down on person B.
21:50 <CrackTheSky> Exactly
21:50 <G_Q> Having said that, though...
21:50 <godix> Or robotic crab B as the case may be.
21:51 <`Eclipse> hahhah
21:51 <G_Q> I noticed a few issues with the sync, especially at the beginning.
21:51 <`Eclipse> that whole scene at the beach was good =)
21:51 <quadir> the audio cut for the middle scene is dead on too
21:52 <quadir> its so edge of your seat AHHHH DONT STOP THERE
21:52 <`Eclipse> i like the sync where they were using lightning
21:52 <`Eclipse> that was pretty good
21:52 <CrackTheSky> Eclipse: Yeah, I liked that too
21:52 <G_Q> The ending sync was really good.
21:52 <quadir> and the lighting with the gun and the scream
21:52 <jonnkakarotto> overall
21:52 <CrackTheSky> Lots of cool internal sync throughout the video
21:52 <jonnkakarotto> 9.8/10
21:52 <`Eclipse> but yeah
21:52 <`Eclipse> awesome sync
21:52 <`Eclipse> i loved the begining scene with the funeral
21:53 <`Eclipse> it was a great beginining
21:53 <quadir> it totally set the mood
21:53 <jonnkakarotto> on my scale that's about as close to 10 as you can get
21:53 <G_Q> Well, didn't the parts on the bus seem a bit out of sync, though?
21:53 <quadir> it was like 'this is a dark anime'
21:53 <`Eclipse> nah
21:53 <godix> I didn't like the playing with brightness sync. that was annoying. But the rest of it was good.
21:53 <`Eclipse> i thought the bus stuff fit
21:53 <CrackTheSky> GQ: Some of the scenes were, but I thought most were dead-on
21:53 <G_Q> I agree.
21:53 <quadir> the bus stuff is the hostage scene
21:53 <`Eclipse> i liked how that girl had to save that kid in the bus scene =)
21:54 <quadir> and the lifting the seat is so wtf
21:54 <godix> some interlacing in the video as well but oh well, it's old.
21:54 <`Eclipse> it kinda looked like he was not expecting it
21:54 <quadir> godix: 2003 is not old
21:54 <godix> I'd rather have a technically imprefect enjoyable vid and a technically well done boring vid.
21:54 * G_Q is not too surprised by Mahoro, though.
21:54 <quadir> godix: but yeah it's a mpg so it's probably meant for tv viewing in the first place
21:54 <G_Q> *cough*Kurumi*cough*
21:54 <jonnkakarotto> well
21:55 <jonnkakarotto> it was at a con, so I'm guessing that's where it was viewed
21:55 <godix> quadir: Doubtful. The entire thing isn't interlaced. Just parts.
21:55 <jonnkakarotto> hence why interlacing still exists
21:55 <quadir> I really liked that the usually-random gun shooting actually had... consequences that flowed
21:55 <quadir> godix: true
21:55 <CrackTheSky> Was he using a watermark?
21:55 <G_Q> That bothered me a bit, also.
21:56 <quadir> no I think he whited out one
21:56 <CrackTheSky> Or was that just from downloaded footage? There's a little watermark in the upper-right
21:56 <quadir> and you notice in the beginning he misses it
21:56 <G_Q> It changed, so I'm guessing fansubs from somewhere?
21:56 <quadir> downloaded footage
21:56 <godix> I kinda liek that ended with her picking a creeper as well. That's something you don't see as a vid ending often.
21:56 <quadir> the interlacing in the gun to chin part almost works FOR the video
21:56 <`Eclipse> yeah
21:56 <jonnkakarotto> "picking a creeper"?
21:57 <CrackTheSky> HAHAHA
21:57 <jonnkakarotto> oh
21:57 <jonnkakarotto> right
21:57 <jonnkakarotto> that
21:57 <quadir> it's funno nobody has so far complained about the subtitles
21:58 <CrackTheSky> During the middle?
21:58 <quadir> yeah, people just auto-complain about em though
21:58 <jonnkakarotto> or in other places?
21:58 <jonnkakarotto> nah
21:58 <`Eclipse> i thought that was supposed to be a joke
21:58 <teya> that was a really fun vid
21:58 <jonnkakarotto> it adds a touch of class to the video
21:59 <teya> i definitely liked that middle bit
21:59 <jonnkakarotto> and as for the watermarks and what have you from some spots in the video
21:59 <jonnkakarotto> they really don't bother me that much
21:59 <teya> the middle was fine with subtitles
21:59 <jonnkakarotto> granted, I might not be saying that if the video were 100x larger
21:59 <CrackTheSky> john: me either
21:59 <teya> it doesn't work without them, really
22:00 <`Eclipse> it woudl just cause confusion
22:00 <teya> exactly
22:00 <godix> from the video description: Bad stuff: In the upper right hand corner, there is constantly a logo "BS-X"... this
22:00 <godix> is because I was using fansubs. However, it's not as noticeable as you might think.
22:00 <godix> Though it does occasionally move whenever I used Motion.
22:00 <quadir> CrackTheSky: watermark definatly wasn't editor watermark because when he zooms the shot the watermark almost goes off-screen
22:00 <teya> ahh
22:00 <CrackTheSky> Yeah, I notced that too
22:01 <`Eclipse> the watermark didn't really bother me much though
22:01 <teya> i didn't notice it
22:01 <G_Q> Wasn't as obvious as some of the others.
22:01 <teya> until you mentioned it
22:02 <godix> the watermark is fine. Like I said, I'd rather see a video with technical problems that's interesting than a technically well done video that's boring.
22:02 <CrackTheSky> I barely saw it at all, until halfway through my second viewing
22:02 <godix> Which, oddly enough, is exactly the choice of videos we had tonight.
22:02 <`Eclipse> hah
22:02 <teya> godix: heh
22:02 <teya> indeed
22:03 <jonnkakarotto> technicality is the new fatality
22:06 <jonnkakarotto> is it odd that I just noticed that I have the peculiar ability to kill a conversation at random?
22:07 <CrackTheSky> It's an awesome skill john
22:07 <`Eclipse> no
22:07 <`Eclipse> i've seen worse
22:09 <szwagier> 3 things irritated me in bonus vid - watermark, subs telling the places names, and saturation changes - apart from that neat vid
22:09 <godix> the subs didn't bother me at all. If there's a reason subs are there I'm cool with it. It's when they're there but shouldn't be that it's annoying.
22:10 <szwagier> godix - i'm not saying about the subs in the middle with the crab
22:10 <jonnkakarotto> top left just after the bus scene
22:10 <jonnkakarotto> is one I thought of
22:10 <jonnkakarotto> noticed that one as being out of place right away
22:10 <szwagier> exactly :O
22:11 <godix> Oh. Ok. I know what you mean. I don't find it nearly as annoying as subs on bottom of the screen.
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Post by quadir » Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:02 pm

main video on opinions wrote:21:04 <godix> Decent but boring videos are hard to op. There's not really anything to say other than 'you didn't fuck up badly but you did bore me.'
21:05 <G_Q> For a romance video, though, I thought it was very good. It did what most videos of this type are supposed to do -- show two people in love.
21:05 <shumira_chan> It's a nice, well-made archetypical romance AMV. It's almost the definition of a romance AMV. I think this AMV should be mentioned in the dictionary definition of what a romance AMV is. Too bad it's also what 99.99% of all AMV editors believe a romance AMV should be: a romantic song set to romantic couple scenes. There's no story here, no further insight other than showing a romantic couple being romantic.
21:05 <CrackTheSky> It felt really...typical
21:06 <CrackTheSky> Nothing surprised me at all
21:06 <CrackTheSky> Very cliche editing, as well
21:06 <quadir> the character art mixing reminded me of old-school Trigun vids... who mixed in the Trigun movie where he looks completely different
21:07 <quadir> shumira_chan: I found myself going 'do they ever show something other then the two hugging each other?'
21:08 <godix> I give her full credit. She didn't go the angsty romance vid route of showing nothing but people just staring into space. Decent sync, although actually it had too much sync, good video quality. Good editing. Boring as fuck.
21:08 <CrackTheSky> I felt like it was oversynched for one, and poorly synched a lot of the time
21:08 <shumira_chan> Like I said, quad, it's what the editor intended. I think she(?) is very happy with this vid, and I can understand that.
21:09 <G_Q> My main negative was that many of the fade outs seemed to not match the beat.
21:10 <szwagier> also I don;t actually get what is the reason oval masks are there, other then "cool romance videos have them, so this one will have them too" :<
21:10 <quadir> on the plus side, this anime, at least the first one... is a ecchi comedy-harem anime
21:11 <quadir> the vid comes accross a bit more serious then the anime
21:11 <godix> quadir: The anime may be but you'd never know that from watching the video.
21:11 <shumira_chan> I wish AMV editors would go beyond simple puppy love when making romance AMVs.
21:12 <Nunchuck> I kind of felt that the whole thing should have been a minute shorter
21:11 <quadir> godix: exacly, so in that way the editor created *some* depth that wasn't there before
21:12 <quadir> godix: as far as the 'when is it going to end' probably because the whole video is couple scenes... which usually END romance vids as they are finally together
21:12 <szwagier> quadir: inded, she did make it more deep than mahoromatic, but then why are they still some comedy parts? I don't see the reason for deformed characters in romance video (except it being a comedy romance)
21:12 <Nunchuck> It would have been a lot better, because after a while the stuff just wouldn't end even though you expected it to be :/
21:13 <quadir> the swirly transparency thing sucked :(
21:13 <jonnkakarotto> Yeah, I wan't too fond of that one myself
21:16 <`Eclipse> i haven't seen many romance vids, so i can't say whether it was overused or not. but i liked it. although it was way too long
21:16 <quadir> oh, and one giant + for this video is no TEACHER
21:17 <`Eclipse> i liked that scene where the corners were all 'blacked' out
21:17 <G_Q> As a romance video, in comparison to many others, it's actually quite good. Just not entirely original in comparison.
21:18 <jonnkakarotto> G_Q: I would tend to agree. I've seen a fair share of "romance" videos, but most of them sucked ass anyway
21:18 <`Eclipse> there were some cool fades in the beginning
21:18 <`Eclipse> but there was some fast cuts that were off-sync o.=
21:18 <Nunchuck> the beginning was awesum :>
21:20 <teya> as i said in my op, i thought it was a lot like a recap episode
21:20 <szwagier> actually I didn't find it boring until the "ring ending" :O it just didn't leave strong impression, but didn't bore me either :O If this would be a bit shorter though it would gain :S
21:21 <teya> the fade effect made it seem like memories flashing by
bonus video on opinions wrote:21:48 <jonnkakarotto> the video makes me want to watch mahoro now
21:48 * G_Q also.
21:48 <godix> Yes. good video.
21:48 <CrackTheSky> Same here...although I know it's probably nothing like the video
21:49 <quadir> so yeah when I saw this video I crapped my pants
21:49 <quadir> it is NOTHING like mahoro at all
21:49 <CrackTheSky> I love it when editors take anime out of context like that
21:50 <jonnkakarotto> I've never seen the anime, but I liked it quite a bit
21:50 <CrackTheSky> I liked the middle part
21:50 <CrackTheSky> It was an interesting contrast
21:50 <quadir> CrackTheSky: and it wasn't random since the whole fight scene follows
21:50 <godix> It provided the one thing I always want to see in an action video and almost never do. A reason there's action. Granted, it's a fairly shallow presentation of the reason but still. Nice to know why person A is doing a beat down on person B.
21:50 <CrackTheSky> Exactly
21:52 <`Eclipse> i like the sync where they were using lightning
21:52 <`Eclipse> that was pretty good
21:52 <CrackTheSky> Eclipse: Yeah, I liked that too
21:52 <CrackTheSky> Lots of cool internal sync throughout the video
21:52 <jonnkakarotto> 9.8/10
21:52 <`Eclipse> i loved the begining scene with the funeral
21:53 <quadir> it totally set the mood
21:53 <quadir> it was like 'this is a dark anime'
21:54 <quadir> and the lifting the seat is so wtf
21:54 <godix> some interlacing in the video as well but oh well, it's old.
21:54 <godix> I'd rather have a technically imprefect enjoyable vid and a technically well done boring vid.
21:55 <quadir> I really liked that the usually-random gun shooting actually had... consequences that flowed
21:55 <CrackTheSky> Was he using a watermark?
21:56 <G_Q> It changed, so I'm guessing fansubs from somewhere?
21:56 <quadir> downloaded footage
21:56 <godix> I kinda like that ended with her picking a creeper as well. That's something you don't see as a vid ending often.
21:57 <CrackTheSky> HAHAHA
21:58 <teya> that was a really fun vid
22:09 <szwagier> 3 things irritated me in bonus vid - watermark, subs telling the places names, and saturation changes - apart from that neat vid
I feel compelled to point out the bonus video rocked this week.

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Re: Highlights

Post by CrackTheSky » Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:52 pm

quadir wrote:I feel compelled to point out the bonus video rocked this week.
I feel compelled to second that :o

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Post by JenCM18 » Tue May 01, 2007 8:26 pm

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Post by JenCM18 » Tue May 01, 2007 8:29 pm

I see some peoples points....but other than that I liked my video and very proud of it I dont feel nothing is wrong with it. .but didn't have to be so harsh. And what you saying I'm immature? I've been making amvs since I was 11 and I'm now 20. I have improved since my 1st few videos I know.....
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Post by Minion » Tue May 01, 2007 8:53 pm

i think what you meant to say is:
"thank you for giving me tips. i will keep them in mind when i edit in the future"

no?
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Post by quadir » Tue May 01, 2007 9:16 pm

JenCM18 wrote:I see some peoples points....
Glad some of it was of use.
JenCM18 wrote:I liked my video and very proud of it
You definitely put work into it, I hope you are.
JenCM18 wrote:but didn't have to be so harsh
talk often is, however I think you'll find the opinions left a bit better.

Anyways, this isn't any different than any opinions you might get (infact each person left an individual one before the discussion even started), you can agree, disagree, or even just partly agree. Nobody is here to flame or be destructive.

If you liked the experience as a whole I hope you'll consider joining us next week for another video, if not that's fine too. Good luck in your future amv's.

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Post by JenCM18 » Tue May 01, 2007 9:25 pm

quadir wrote:
JenCM18 wrote:I see some peoples points....
Glad some of it was of use.
JenCM18 wrote:I liked my video and very proud of it
You definitely put work into it, I hope you are.
JenCM18 wrote:but didn't have to be so harsh
talk often is, however I think you'll find the opinions left a bit better.

Anyways, this isn't any different than any opinions you might get (infact each person left an individual one before the discussion even started), you can agree, disagree, or even just partly agree. Nobody is here to flame or be destructive.

If you liked the experience as a whole I hope you'll consider joining us next week for another video, if not that's fine too. Good luck in your future amv's.
Thanks and yeah the opinions were better. And I might =)
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Post by Esrhan » Wed May 02, 2007 2:05 am

Minion wrote:i think what you meant to say is:
"thank you for giving me tips. i will keep them in mind when i edit in the future"

no?
Probably not the response the flash-mob was expecting.

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Post by godix » Wed May 02, 2007 6:58 am

Esrhan wrote:Probably not the response the flash-mob was expecting.
No, this wasn't the response I expect. It was more polite than I expected for one thing...
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