AMV Review #38: Matt Bottorff's Condemned Memoir

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This week's moderated discussion video:

Matt Bottorff (Kisanzi) - 2007 - Condemned Memoir
Category: Horror
Anime: Elfen Lied [Spoilers]
Song: The Birthday Massacre - blue

Please use this thread to discuss this video, there's no need to read the IRC log, just watch the video, and start talking about it! What emotions did it evoke in you? What do you think the video taught you about the character it features?

After each discussion, we throw out a "bonus" video, which often doesn't lend itself perfectly to analysis, or is already well established but is worth recommending. Check it out!

Archive of previous moderated discussions:
2007 November 037-26, 036-19, 035-12, 034-05
October 033-29, 032-22, 031-15, 030-08, 029-01, September 028-24, 027-17, 026-10, 025-03
August 024-27, 023-20, 022-13, 021-06, July 020-30, 019-23, 018-16, 017-09, 016-02
June 015-25, 014-18, 013-11, 012-04, May 011-28, 010-21, 009-14, 008-07
April 007-30, 006-23, 005-16, 004-09, 003-02, March 002-26, 001-19

[quadir]

21:24 <Koopiskeva> http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... p?v=151101
21:25 <CrackTheSky> I give it...
21:25 <CrackTheSky> A thumb up
21:25 <CrackTheSky> And another thumb up
21:25 <Koopiskeva> the butt?
21:25 <CrackTheSky> ...Your butthole
21:25 <CrackTheSky> Awww
21:25 <Koopiskeva> u wood.
21:25 <godix> Crack: yes but your taste is so fucking bad you'd give two people just staring at each other for 5 minutes in pure silence a thumbs up.
21:25 <Koopiskeva> minimalist?
21:25 <CrackTheSky> Mmhmm
21:26 <Koopiskeva> this reminds me of why i stopped rds tv/radio
21:26 <godix> Not minimalist, just bad taste.
21:26 <Koopiskeva> never did go well with schedules
21:26 <Koopiskeva> |:
21:26 <CrackTheSky> You could just turn on a camera in your apartment and call it RDSTV
21:26 <godix> Orwell: Note this video resolution is 848x480
21:27 <Koopiskeva> one day we'll do it again
21:27 <godix> When you wanna pimp RoS6?
21:27 <Koopiskeva> not rly
21:28 <Koopiskeva> i dont think i actually pimped any of my own videos during the duration of rds radio/tv
21:28 <Koopiskeva> mostly cuz i didnt make any during that time
21:28 <Koopiskeva> |:
21:28 <CrackTheSky> You pimped my shitty video
21:28 <CrackTheSky> I don't see why you wouldn't have pimped yours
21:29 <CrackTheSky> O:
21:29 <godix> The effects were overly harsh but it does a fair job of caputuring the horro then almost chibiness of the anime
21:29 <godix> He never pimped me.
21:29 <Koopiskeva> im sry?
21:29 <godix> Which, thinking about it, is just a sign that's he's still somewhat sane
21:30 <Koopiskeva> we reviewed bad videos for fun
21:30 <CrackTheSky> oic
21:30 <Koopiskeva> take THAT ben
21:30 <godix> Koop: See, you shoulda done mine
21:30 * CrackTheSky takes it and eats it
21:30 <Koopiskeva> godix, yers are different
21:31 <godix> you're just too chicken to put a talking anus on RDSTV
21:32 <godix> yeah, that video would be better if he toned down the effects and maybe cut off a minute. Although I did kinda like the effect aorund 3:15 or so
21:33 <Orwell> I deleted this video, the only 'blue' one I have is a M@D
21:33 <Koopiskeva> blue?
21:33 <Orwell> I name by song
21:33 <Koopiskeva> i c
21:34 <Koopiskeva> guess u didnt like this one ey
21:34 <CrackTheSky> I think this is probably Nancy's best video
21:35 <godix> I'll delete it but I don't wish physical harm on kisanzi for making it so I guess it's better than average.
21:35 <Koopiskeva> i c
21:35 <PaperIsland> i'm watching it right now
21:35 <Koopiskeva> i like this the best from him as well
21:35 <Koopiskeva> yea its not perfect, its much different from what he had described he was going to do, but its still good i think
21:35 <CrackTheSky> Ephemeral Reality's a close second tho
21:35 <godix> I do like that unlike most elfin lied videos he didn't focus on just the violence or just the love story
21:37 <Koopiskeva> ive yet to see elfen lied, but from wut ive seen - this seems the most comprehensive and actually fitting for the show
21:37 <Orwell> based on every nancy video I've downloaded, I must wish him physical harm. I don't have a single video of his
21:37 <Koopiskeva> heh
21:37 <godix> Orwell: No, that just means he's rather blah. Wishing physical harm is when in middle of a video you see color offset and instantly start yelling 'KICK YOU IN THE MOTHERFUCKING NUTS'
21:38 <Koopiskeva> so u wanna kick him in the nuts?
21:38 <Koopiskeva> as revenge
21:38 <PaperIsland> So was all the writing added?
21:38 <Koopiskeva> afaik
21:38 <PaperIsland> To the walls and stuff
21:38 <godix> No. Jasper. Which kinda defeats my plans since she doesn't have any
21:38 <PaperIsland> k
21:38 <Koopiskeva> yea it was
21:39 <PaperIsland> I liked that
21:39 <godix> Was it? I thought that was in the source?
21:39 <Koopiskeva> nope
21:39 <PaperIsland> I felt like the tense parts didn't have enough actually happen for the most part
21:39 <PaperIsland> that's my main complaint
21:39 <godix> Teach me for trying to remember something from an anime I watch a year and a half ago I guess
21:39 <Koopiskeva> he may have taken the actual text fropm the source, but the way it was implemented was all his
21:39 <PaperIsland> I thought the stylistic additions were all nice
21:40 <godix> PaperIsland: With elfen lied if you show something happening you've just made a video not org hostable.
21:40 <PaperIsland> Some nice juxtapositions...
21:40 <PaperIsland> Hmmm
21:40 <CrackTheSky> x2 on the juxtapositions
21:40 <Koopiskeva> but even this - as toned down as it is, was actually not showable at awa
21:40 <CrackTheSky> It did a good job at making the viewer feel both highs and lows
21:40 <godix> Wasn't it? I thought AWA was for the big boys
21:40 <PaperIsland> Really?
21:40 <CrackTheSky> Well, they showed it
21:40 <CrackTheSky> But he had to convince them to
21:41 <Koopiskeva> i did feel that the supposedly gruesome parts were way toned down
21:41 <CrackTheSky> And they gave a warning of sorts to the audience before they played it
21:41 <godix> well big deal, I had to convince them to show Conet. Especially after he saw my pro video.
21:41 <Koopiskeva> but thats mostly cuz ive seen all the bloody parts from other amvs, so i know wut he wasnt showing
21:41 <Orwell> honestly, if your at a amv con, who gives a fuck about the violence in it?
21:42 <godix> orwell: There are a lot of 12 year olds at cons.
21:42 <CrackTheSky> The coordinators, apparently
21:42 <godix> But still, I do think this is showable. But maybe it's because like Koop I just know how much worse it could have been
21:42 <Orwell> Godix: That doesn't make my point invalid. if they're watching anime they've probably seen violence
21:43 <godix> Orwell: That's like saying you'd expect a Sailor Moon fan to have seen Perfect Blue.
21:43 <Koopiskeva> actually ive never seen perfect blue myself |:
21:43 <Koopiskeva> or sailor moon
21:43 <Koopiskeva> >_>
21:43 <Koopiskeva> but then again i dont actually watch anime
21:44 <Koopiskeva> ever.
21:44 <PaperIsland> who does
21:44 <Koopiskeva> u watch it
21:44 <Koopiskeva> in the dark.
21:44 <Orwell> I don't expect them to have seen perfect blue, but how many GTA players are 12 year olds?
21:44 <Orwell> Probably as many as the +18 crowd
21:44 <Orwell> or perhaps underage vs overage
21:45 <PaperIsland> You can have the same level of violence, but if you change the context it changes the reception
21:45 <godix> Orwell: Elfin Lied is the same way. It's not something you should expect 12 year olds to have seen
21:46 <PaperIsland> So is this like a "scribble" filter put over the footage in this video?
21:46 <godix> but still, i wouldn't hesitate to show this. especially at AWA which is supposed to be THE con for amvs so you'd assume it'd have an older amv audience.
21:46 <PaperIsland> Where it looks like pencil or pen all over it
21:46 <Koopiskeva> paper, most likely
21:46 <PaperIsland> It does a pretty good job I think
21:46 <Koopiskeva> some kind of grunge filter from ae most likely
21:47 <Koopiskeva> or couldve easily just been random quiggly lines made in mspaint and layered over and over
21:47 <CrackTheSky> That's what I would have thought
21:47 <godix> Koop: I think you're the only one that edits with paint
21:47 <Koopiskeva> actually i ahevnt been editing with paint
21:47 <Koopiskeva> sorry :/
21:48 <godix> your most infamous amv was
21:48 <Koopiskeva> well that may be.
21:48 <Koopiskeva> but most ppl assume that was ae anyway
21:49 <Koopiskeva> which i now have to ask
21:49 <Koopiskeva> ben
21:49 <CrackTheSky> Hmm?
21:49 <Koopiskeva> did u use ae for that haibane vid of yers?
21:49 <Koopiskeva> the end creds
21:49 <Koopiskeva> with the paint splotches
21:49 <CrackTheSky> AE
21:49 <CrackTheSky> Yes
21:49 <Koopiskeva> which im thinking used riotgear
21:50 <CrackTheSky> Huh?
21:50 <CrackTheSky> Riotgear?
21:50 <Koopiskeva> oh nvm then
21:50 <CrackTheSky> That was Photoshop brushes
21:50 <Koopiskeva> its an AE pack of little motion graphic stuff
21:50 <Koopiskeva> but that works too i spose
21:50 <CrackTheSky> Yup
21:51 <Koopiskeva> never understood why those are called burshes
21:51 <Koopiskeva> when they're clearly stamps
21:51 <Koopiskeva> *brushes
21:51 <Koopiskeva> |:
21:51 <CrackTheSky> lol
21:51 <CrackTheSky> I guess that's true :P
21:51 <PaperIsland> who knows why they're call burshes... ;)
21:52 <Koopiskeva> cuz theyre delicious
21:53 <Koopiskeva> that was short, oh well |:
21:53 <Orwell> last calls? This video sucks, nancy should learn how to edit. Godix, I'll let you post the log. Doctor as you see fit
21:53 <PaperIsland> Better than a no show
21:53 <Koopiskeva> heh
21:53 <godix> Orwell: I ain't posting shit. Hell, even quadir didn't post last weeks
21:54 <Orwell> review is dead, long live the channel!

Huge thanks to koop for running the review that night.

[Garridy]

Must say I this video sooo much.
It really seems to fit elfin lied much more than any other I have seen and the effects are wll done and not too over the top.

[Fall_Child42]

What happened to reviewing Shitty videos Quadir?

This is most definatly not a shitty video ... You dick why didn't you tel wait what was i doing monday?

oh yeah, TF2



Sorry Nancy but TF2 is better than reviewing your video ... (but it is a good video...)

P.S.

AWA has really kinda strict rules for showing things ... They wouldn't play Shonen Bushido because it was flagged as hentai

[Greggus1]

Everybody in that review fails for not knowing Bladebeat Graffiti is Kisanzi's best video.

[Koopiskeva]

Everybody in that review fails for not knowing Bladebeat Graffiti is Kisanzi's best video.

No. |:

[CrackTheSky]

Everybody in that review fails for not knowing Bladebeat Graffiti is Kisanzi's best video.

No. |:

[Kisanzi]

Everybody in that review fails for not knowing Bladebeat Graffiti is Kisanzi's best video.

No. |:

My best vid has yet to be made...>.>

But thanks to the 5 people in the review for giving me an amusing rant to read for 5 minutes. I'm pretty glad to see that people can't tell how much of the video is custom FX and how much was actual footage. Good times.

[Prodigi]

Tear Stained Hearts ftw.