Do you think the overrated ideas will EVER die down?

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Post by Gepetto » Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:07 am

-Bauzi- wrote:Yes in ten years nobody will still know LP, DBZ and Evangelion.
Naruto will be at ep. 3012 :?
Nah, they'll still know it. Like Infinity Squared said, re-runs. Cartoon Network was broadcasting Astroboy last month (at least here in Brazil). Astroboy first broadcasted in Japan in 1963, and the kids who were born in 2001 have already had a chance to catch it. I doubt we'll have mass-produed Astroboy videos in four years because of it, but the same can happen to DBZ, Bleach or Naruto in thirty years (and probably a few hundred times before that).

But as overused as these anime are, they still have their merit. 1000 monkeys making DBZ AMVs for 1000 years would eventually do something good, even if it's not Shakespearean. Advent Children, for example is very well animated and using footage from the movie is an easy way to get some eye-candy going for your video. Sure, the 10^999 to 1 proportion of bad videos is as annoying as a flock of drunken parrots, but no one forces us to watch all of them (which is great, because I need time to perform vital functions like eating).

The most that can happen is, when some other shounen hero comes along and kicks Naruto from his throne, people will stop giving straight 10s to every crappy Naruto AMV out there, and start giving straight 10s to the other guy. And the wheel goes round and round and round...
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Post by devilmaykickass » Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:43 am

The music? Yes, Linkin Park won't be popular forever (are they even anymore?).

The anime? Hard to say. DBZ and Sailor Moon are both well over ten years old and still have videos made to them all the time, so eh.

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Post by Paul Kievits » Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:54 am

no
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Post by Koshi-kun » Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:06 am

I wish the mass-production phases would die down, I pray, but, it is like praying for the whole of humanity to re-invent itself; in the amv community and out, there are always idiots recycling the latest and greatest because that is all they are aware of, because the surface is the easiest thing to grab ahold of and love.

But you get the ones who dig deeper, eventually, and find that there are more anime beyond Naruto and DBZ, wow, and start making actually interesting vids.

I don't think the phases will die, they slowly blend into new phases, such is life. I wish a-m-v.org wasn't cluttered up so much by them, though.

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Post by Gepetto » Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:08 pm

Koshi-kun wrote:I wish a-m-v.org wasn't cluttered up so much by them, though.
Let us not forget that the main purpose of this website is to catalog every single AMV in existance. That includes the mass-production Linkin Ball Z AMVs as well.
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Post by Neccor » Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:06 pm

Koshi-kun wrote:I wish the mass-production phases would die down, I pray, but, it is like praying for the whole of humanity to re-invent itself; in the amv community and out, there are always idiots recycling the latest and greatest because that is all they are aware of, because the surface is the easiest thing to grab ahold of and love.

But you get the ones who dig deeper, eventually, and find that there are more anime beyond Naruto and DBZ, wow, and start making actually interesting vids.

I don't think the phases will die, they slowly blend into new phases, such is life. I wish a-m-v.org wasn't cluttered up so much by them, though.
Unfortunally, I am one of those people, or atleast was. My first vid was a linken park/naruto to Sasuke's obsession over his brother and stuff, but i also have a Bleach one to atleast an original band. The upside? My lp/Naruto vid is, as far as I've seen, the best I've seen. (I give it a 6-7 instead of the usual 3-4), but I have two ideas. A MJ/GTO that is already half way done and one to he anime Kashimashi. Still unknown as far as I can tell, but it was at Otakon this year.

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Post by downwithpants » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:50 pm

but but "we make amvs for ourselves." why should we care if our viewers have seen the same type of video a million times before?
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Post by Arigatomina » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:22 am

Long answer: As long as there are people downloading these types of videos, there will be people uploading them. Those who like these videos might stop uploading them if they suddenly find themselves without an audience [here], but they won't stop making them until they get bored with it.

The question is when will the type of anime fans who make amvs change? Will it ever change? If the new anime changes, the audience of fans might change as well, but even that won't get rid of the fans of the older anime. As far as I can tell, the new anime in the last three years has the same stuff as the old anime. People like the new stuff for the same reasons they liked the old stuff. Even if those people use the new anime instead of old 'overdone' stuff, that won't change the type of videos they make from it.

I think it would take a serious revolution to get rid of the majority of anime fans, and to hide the old favorites from the new generation of anime watchers. Most guys like emo action and most girls like sappy romance, so no matter what new anime you hand them, those are the videos most of them are going to be making. And as long as they're the majority you'll have the dissenters complaining about the lack of judgement and originality 'today'. Judging by the anime that sells, that ain't gonna change any time soon.

Short answer: No.

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Post by godix » Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:00 am

Oh for fucks sake, what about this hobby makes people a bunch of elitist fucktards? Christ, it's like you guys aren't happy unless you have someone to look down on. "Oh that person used Naruto, they're beneath me." "Look at the piece of crap this guy made with WMM." "Linkin Park is so overused." "I can't get my dick hard looking at 4chan like usual so I gotta get off by being better than someone else". Get over your fucking self. You aren't all that great, you aren't the final lord of taste, and right now I guarantee you someone out there is saying 'Oh, they couldn't even make their own drawings/music' so obviously you ain't impressing anyone. If you MUST feel superior go back to looking up furry porn 'to make fun of them' while secretly hoping no one notices your two inches of manhood is rock hard because of the lady in the squirrel costume. Jesus fucking Christ second coming aborted with a coathanger, just ignore the fucking things if you don't like them. Sure there's several thousand Naruto pieces of shit uploaded but it's really REALLY easy to ignore them. Take me for example, I ignore them so much that I have no idea how many of these turds there really are and just hope it's somewhere around several thousand so I don't end up looking almost as stupid as the cum guzzlers who are whining about them. This is a hobby. The entire point of a hobby is to enjoy yourself. If these pathetic douchebags enjoyed making something with all the originality of a plagiarists at a Xerox machine then fine. They enjoyed themselves. Purpose achieved. Pull up your pants and quit trying to mount that high horse will ya?
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Post by celibi87 » Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:25 am

That was one hell of a responce Godix....

Even though he could have said it nicer i agree with him wholheartedly. WHo care about what people do as long as they are having fun doing it?

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