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Post by Shinodude » Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:53 pm

pat_hulse wrote:Sorry for double posting, but iamfanboy, here's an example of how a newb SHOULD behave: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... hp?t=73388

Notice how he is honest? Notice how he is polite? Notice how he is humble? Notice how he removed the subtitles (most of them anyway)? Notice how he clearly read the tutorials since he understands what compression and avisynth are?

Also, notice the similarities. He has a similar premise to yours: A character who is fighting and struggling etc. It is also his first video. His sync is on in some places and off in others.

In terms of talent, you guys probably aren't too far off from one another, but he went about it the right way whereas you went about it incorrectly.

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.
p4\/\//v3|)

learn somthing from Rhodan he did it correctly and didnt do it in a way that pissed me off letting me give him advice what he can do to improve in his editing.

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Post by iamfanboy » Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:29 am

Mmmm, yes, indeedily do, that is a nice video...

Hey, if I do another cut with your advice, will this still be my first video?

And a more serious question: what is the general rule on leaving voice clips in videos? Only if done artistically, or never ever touched (like wipes)?


And I will say this: I was directed to this site AFTER I'd already made the video by a friend who's already a member. I barely knew how to use Premiere when I made it. I had no FAQs, no guides, no previous examples save what I could see from already finished videos (that I downloaded quite a few years ago), and a younger sister who showed me how to import clips and then went to bed when I made it (and she last used Premiere on the Mac nearly three years ago, so her memory is little better than mine). I was goin' with my GUTS! :wink:

and apparently failed, but who counts first attempts anyway?



And shinodude, you didn't give me any advice yet on my editing. *looks back and checks*
dont try to play it off like you didnt think it was good
lol what a weak insult ill give you another chance tho.

I know there is always room for improvment but why did you make your self look like an idiot? you could have goten just as much attention makinga post and say somthing like "[insert link here] im new and I feel i did a good job but im always open to suggestions sence I know every amv has room for imrovment" instead you started of on how great your amv was when really it was just plain bad wich made you look like a neanderthal.
p4\/\//v3|)

learn somthing from Rhodan he did it correctly and didnt do it in a way that pissed me off letting me give him advice what he can do to improve in his editing.
Mm, nope, no advice about my video editing there, just annoyed ranting about my attitude - AFTER I posted explaining why I did so.

Because I'm no wikitroll and well aware that many, many people write English as a second language (and even more are 14 year olds let down by the absolute shyte tolerated as education at schools), I shan't pick on your grammar - all I'll say is that your posts were barely more readable than my video was (apparently) watchable.

I have to say that your posts don't READ like someone who has English as a second language, so I'll assume that you're in the 14 year old category of leeching time off your older brother's computer, looking desperately for his porn stash, in between heckling people's posts and playing with his pirated Premiere.

And anyone who uses pwn outside of a MMORPG (and thank the Maker, it's becoming obsolete and dorky there too), should be 'pawned' by their parents for the $18.79 worth of chemicals that their body should be rendered down for.


A better second try, do you think?
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Post by iamfanboy » Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:32 am

Can we be at least civilized to each other now, Shino? ^_^ I promise to be nice if you are....
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Post by eya » Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:54 am

iamfanboy wrote: I have to say that your posts don't READ like someone who has English as a second language, so I'll assume that you're in the 14 year old category...
Haha! I don't know if you cheated but you are really close with your age suggestion (according to shinodude's profil). :lol:

Maybe I got it wrong due to my lack of english knowledge but I thought iamfanboy's first post was intended to be ironical. So I guess there is no reason to be pissed off. But what do I know...

@iamfanboy: Your amv truly isn't great. Subtitels, bad quality, the poor editing and Jon Bon Jovi ruined it.
iamfanboy wrote:And a more serious question: what is the general rule on leaving voice clips in videos? Only if done artistically, or never ever touched (like wipes)?
I don't think voice clips are generally bad they just have to fit - I guess you meant the use of an anime scene with the original voices of the anime characters in it? Just watch this one: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... hp?v=49065
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Post by Prodigi » Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:15 am

:D :) :( :o :shock: :? 8-) :lol: :x :P :oops: :cry: :evil: :twisted: :roll: :wink: :!: :?: :idea: :arrow: :| :mrgreen: :amv:

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Post by Shinodude » Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:24 am

iamfanboy wrote:
I have to say that your posts don't READ like someone who has English as a second language, so I'll assume that you're in the 14 year old category of leeching time off your older brother's computer, looking desperately for his porn stash, in between heckling people's posts and playing with his pirated Premiere.

A better second try, do you think?
no sence after you had to cower like a baby and post :
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but I am 14 you are right about that I am the oldest bro I do not look at pron on my computer sence it gives viruses I mush more prefer videos XP or videos like niotexes HMV XD and I never did say I gave you advice I said that the way you acted then treid to play it off pissed me off so I didnt give you any advice

im to lazy to spell check my post sence I have to get ready for school

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Post by iamfanboy » Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:11 am

I ain'ta nivver used a spellcheckie in me life, laddo, and yet I still manage to spell things right good... and chosen are the moments that sense my grammar does not make.

Give it a few years, you'll grow out of it.


And @ eya: I didn't look at his profile until AFTER I posted, which is why I felt bad enough about my uncanny interpretation to do a secondary post offering a peace branch. *shrug* His business if he doesn't take it.

And so there I was, laying awake in bed, editing the video in my head, and I asked myself, "Since I can't sleep anyway, why the hell not just get to work?"

And already I say that the video is at least 3,000% better, at 1/4th done. Lookin' back, I was too obsessed with the narrative to actually make a good MUSIC VIDEO; now I'm trying to walk a happy medium (since narratives are a lot more fun than just random fighting scenes) but with plenty more use of those adequate granny-rock beats.

Oooh! And mouth timing! Mouth timing is hard but fun! I love tutorials... and the ZOOM! <_< How did I miss that?


On a different subject, what's wrong with Jon Bon Jovi, other than the fact that he's an aging rock whore whose popularity peaked then crashed in the '80's and even though he's long outstayed his welcome he still churns out album after album of genero-granny pseudo-punk synth-crap metal? :shock:

Answer me THAT.

But then, I listen to music, not to artists. :mrgreen: I was listening to Tatu for a YEAR AND A HALF before I found out that they were (allegedly) lesbians, and finding out that they weren't mattered but little to me. I just hope this Swahili rapper guy doesn't turn out to be 75 years old and with 30 grandchildren or else I'll be seriously disillusioned. ^_^
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Post by Niotex » Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:34 pm

Seriously stfu =|

Take my word for it.
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Post by iamfanboy » Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:57 pm

I've been meaning to ask: just what does "fail" mean? That I 'failed' to magically impress you with my newb skills at video editing? That I 'failed' to impress you with my first post's attitute? That I 'failed' to pay you the fifty dollars admission to the forum, lest you flame me every time I pop on?

At least pat_hulse said something that I could use.

I'm not very good at stfu'ing unless given a GOOD reason to do so. "You suck, noob, and your video is shit. Go away." is not what I would consider an adequate reason.

Point of fact, it makes me more stubborn when someone tries to bully me - especially over the internet, where anyone who happens to dislike you for whatever reason can be insulting and degrading without taking the risk of someone swinging on them.

I may not want sweetness and light from the people critiquing anything I create (in fact, I go out of my way to avoid it), but I do prefer that they insult my WORK, and not me.

And I really hope you don't bear some kind of petty personal grudge against me just because I failed to :shock: :shock: :shock: and do precisely what you ordered, when you ordered it, and how long you ordered it for. Yes, you've been on the forums awhile, and yes, your videos are decent, but I don't just bend over backwards for newb abuse.

How about you make yourself useful, and insult my video instead of tossing off one-word posts, so I could make my stuff better next time?
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Post by Shinodude » Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:19 pm

hes telling you to stfu b/c everytime you post somthing you make your self look like a neanderthal

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