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Re: Anime release vs. idea yet to be done

Post by Qyot27 » Sun May 08, 2005 3:26 pm

Hax wrote:I face a moral dilema vs time dilema. As I write this, there are 663 AMVs to an anime I have a concept for. As of right now, less than 25% of the series has been released in the US on DVD. The concept I have, no offense, fits this particular series insanely well. Its only a matter of time before someone ele thinks of it.

So what do I do? Given both the nature of the series and the amv, the currently available footage just won't do. The AMV requires a very specific type of scene, dispersed throught the series. Do I use downloaded footage? I'm really against this, and so is AMV. Do I claim to have made the video, wait, make it, and then make it available for download? That's against AMV's rules as well. Do I sit on my ass and wait for someone else to get the idea but ruin the concept? I'd really rather not :(. I ask you - what should I do?

I intentionally haven't mentioned the concept here, because I know there are some lowlifes that would steal it, and the type that would steal it would have no trouble using poorly subtitles fansubs to get the job done.
Just because you make a video doesn't mean you have to release it. There are a couple I've made from crappy quality footage that I haven't released because I need to remaster them (I'm currently in the process of remastering one such video at the moment). So, you could feasibly make the video, list it in the catalog, and then wait until the DVDs fully get released in the States to remaster it and release it. If someone wants to see it beforehand, you could set something up manually, but I'm betting that doesn't happen often.
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Post by Hax » Sun May 08, 2005 5:24 pm

thats actually not that bad an idea. I might end up doing that. Would need to find good quality clips fma though.

Thanks for the idea, I'll have to consider that one
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Post by Rozard » Sun May 08, 2005 6:02 pm

Why should it matter if someone else has your idea? Edit it anyways.
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Re: Anime release vs. idea yet to be done

Post by Bakadeshi » Sun May 08, 2005 6:44 pm

Qyot27 wrote:
Hax wrote:I face a moral dilema vs time dilema. As I write this, there are 663 AMVs to an anime I have a concept for. As of right now, less than 25% of the series has been released in the US on DVD. The concept I have, no offense, fits this particular series insanely well. Its only a matter of time before someone ele thinks of it.

So what do I do? Given both the nature of the series and the amv, the currently available footage just won't do. The AMV requires a very specific type of scene, dispersed throught the series. Do I use downloaded footage? I'm really against this, and so is AMV. Do I claim to have made the video, wait, make it, and then make it available for download? That's against AMV's rules as well. Do I sit on my ass and wait for someone else to get the idea but ruin the concept? I'd really rather not :(. I ask you - what should I do?

I intentionally haven't mentioned the concept here, because I know there are some lowlifes that would steal it, and the type that would steal it would have no trouble using poorly subtitles fansubs to get the job done.
Just because you make a video doesn't mean you have to release it. There are a couple I've made from crappy quality footage that I haven't released because I need to remaster them (I'm currently in the process of remastering one such video at the moment). So, you could feasibly make the video, list it in the catalog, and then wait until the DVDs fully get released in the States to remaster it and release it. If someone wants to see it beforehand, you could set something up manually, but I'm betting that doesn't happen often.
Even if you manage to clean up the footage good enough from the fansubs to release it on the donut, you could always request a delete and remaster it when the DVDs you need come out. I don't think its against the rules to upload a MV using fansubsed footage, or Planty of good videos would have been removed already. Its just considered morally wrong. But you would be rectifying that when you remaster it. I plan to do that for a Mai Hime vid I'm doing now, if and when the DVDs come stateside, or when I can afford to buy the R2s.

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Post by Hax » Sun May 08, 2005 9:20 pm

thanks for the support guys. I'll probably end up using DVDs where I can, and seeing if I can't find some footage to use otherwise. If anyone wants to PM me where I can find some decent quality NO-SUBTITLE footage, that's be super.
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Post by SuperFusion » Sun May 08, 2005 9:28 pm

I say wait for the DVDs to come out. By the time all the DVDs come out your editing skills would have improved and you can maybe make it better than you had hoped.

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Post by Hax » Tue May 10, 2005 2:23 pm

by the time the DVDs come out, I'll be out of college and won't have time for stuff like this anymore. That's something I forgot to mention earlier.
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Here is the deal.

Post by HeavyMetal » Fri May 13, 2005 1:19 am

Some DVDs come out rather fast actually.

Time in college to make AMVs. By out you must mean flunk. :lol:

Seriously though these are your options.

6. Give it up.
(This would mean you suck.)

5. Use fansubs and try to clean them up with cropping, sharping, smoothing, etc.
(Start a good idea off bad, but not a bad first version.)


3. If you want it bad enough buy the Japanese version as computers and most DVD players don't give damn what region code is on a DVD.
(Expensive, but if you love your art not a bad choice.)

2. Get a friend in Japan to help you get the source video.

(Might be hard and unpractical to do.)

1. Wait for the western release and make one bitchin AMV.

I don't give a shit who came up with the idea. I like an excellent AMV to an awesome concept. Who cares who thought of it first. (Note the first part, I wouldn't swipe a concept without asking. If I thought of it, myself and found out someone has already done it, well, I would do it anyway.) What matters is who took the time to make it kickass.

I hate seeing great ideas wasted by poor editing. Then someone with real talent does a search and decides against it. Why? To not look like a copy cat. Kill the potential of greatness for the perception of originality. WTF. Hell no. (Sometimes I see such a great idea done so badly I want to buy the anime and CD to do it right. Yet to do that though.)

The originality is in the editing. If someone beats you to the punch just do it better.

I recommend not watching their video, though. That way if they did something you were going to do, you won't feel obligated to do it differently than you would have.

Should Leonardo not paint a portrait because someone drew a stick figure of the same person?

Do it and do it well, no matter what way you do it.

(Perhaps make a first version with fansubs and remastered it later. I know the org is against remasters, but they often come out very different with only the best parts used again. This would be best I think. You could always replace the first version with org help later.)

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Post by Rozard » Fri May 13, 2005 1:59 am

HAY WAHT HAPPEN TO OPITON 4 ?! :x
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Post by Gallup » Fri May 13, 2005 11:06 am

I wouldn't be surpirsed if you actually could find time to do it. I am in my second year as a full time student at a community college and still find the time to work on my AMV's. I know that I won't be able to as much next year but that is only because I am leaving my main computer at home and won't have to room on my laptop to edit all that much. Believe me, if creating videos is something that you enjoy you will always find the time, even if it is at 12:00 at night when you really should be sleeping.

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