Good AMVs Bad AMVs, Is there such a thing?

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Mon May 02, 2005 9:07 pm

Beowulf wrote:Also in a sad note, most people watch videos to see their favorite anime characters with songs that they like. Thats it.

Am I the only editor on this site who makes vids for the same reason most people watch them? To see their favorite characters with songs that they like?

Want to talk discouraging, it's being on the outside of some classy career-oriented editing world when you just want to enjoy the anime and music mixed up to form anime music videos.

As for the subject of this thread...yeah, all those reasons mentioned above. Anime, character focus, song used, and snappy effects (not always, but typically). Just think - why do you download an amv to begin with? Either it's for the creator (the editing) or the subject matter (anime/song/etc). New members don't know the creators, so it's natural for them to download (and watch and review) based on subject matter.

SuperFusion · Post by **SuperFusion** » Mon May 02, 2005 9:25 pm

I decide what's good and bad.

oldwrench · Post by **oldwrench** » Mon May 02, 2005 10:21 pm

SuperFusion wrote:I decide what's good and bad.

This whole good and bad thing is so subjective. Everyone has their own taste, in all things, anime, music, and amv's included. I don't put down anyone's preferences just because they are not my own. Good or bad? I'm sure even amv's I think are bad are looked on as good by someone. It is difficult to create a great amv, it is even harder if you are not a creative person. I'm not artistic or creative and I'm sure my amv's rank in the lower third on this site, they have most of the faults listed here, but they are mine, I enjoyed making them and they still strike an emotional cord with me. I've had a few good opinions, I don't think I deserve them but they are what that person felt when they watched what I had done. I admire anyone who puts in the effort to make an amv and has the courage to post it for all to see.

jethropr · Post by **jethropr** » Mon May 02, 2005 11:13 pm

I've thought about this a few times. What I've come up with are a few things.

1) I make AMV's based on what I want, not what is "cool" or expected
2) If I'm happy with the video, and no one else likes it, then it's their problem.
3) Anime cons are only there for fun, if you lose to a video that you believe to be worse then your own, then it's your opinion. But obviously the judges saw something in it they liked over your own.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Mon May 02, 2005 11:46 pm

jethropr wrote:1) I make AMV's based on what I want, not what is "cool" or expected
2) If I'm happy with the video, and no one else likes it, then it's their problem.

Despite the level of competition I've managed to get myself into in the past two years, I fully agree with both of these.

I guess I'm just lucky the audiences seem to like what I like

FallenMarvel · Post by **FallenMarvel** » Tue May 03, 2005 12:10 am

i understand how you feel. there are some videos that i've seen that don't seem to be u to par (compared to mine at least), but don't get me wrong I've ssen some that totally knock mine out of the box and don't get enough credit for it. yu do have a point though about people giving good score just because of song or anime choice. when i joined this site, i promised myself that i was gonna be as original as they come despite of what other expectations of AMVs are. But my thing is this, if you know that your video is worth more than people can see, then just try and milk the video for all that you think it's worth: contact other members about your new video, post it in the forums, you can even tell your online pen pals about it; the bottom line is that you just gotta make your video seem like it's is worth looking at regardless of what anime or song that you use. I'll watch a video regardless of what is used, but i will still be honest about it whether it's dynamic or half-assed. You just gotta advertise it around the .org and milk it for all that it's worth. pure and simple. but also like what was said in this post before, if you do all that you can to get people to know about your video and you know its good, but no one likes then it's their problem. you can always enter you stuff in contests and let your work speak for itself. in the end, you know what's true and what's false.

Rozard · Post by **Rozard** » Tue May 03, 2005 1:11 am

Part of it too is how much recognition you crave. I mean, sure, I would love my videos to be hot shit in the AMV world, that'd rock. But that's not why I make AMVs. I make them for the outlet, so I can say "This is my idea, my concept." It's not for the minuscule amount of fame in an internet subculture, it's about my desire and ability to express my ideas.

That's what I think it's about. So to that guy making the 1000th Linkinball Z video, that's awesome man. I hope it comes out exactly how you want it, and I hope you enjoy it and make more. But after that, it comes down to audience, and what audience are you looking for. Someone like myself doesn't really want to watch yet another one, but I'm sure someone does. Or maybe they made it for their friends, because they all thought it was cool. The video with the blocky compressed version of Sephorith from someone else's video, or the dancing Vash flashing in the corners may have a different objective, which would be to get all the fan boys/girls to scream and clap for their video at the AMV showing of their local con. Hey, if that's what you want, cool. Go for it. I hope you make more people cheer and show up to the AMV contest. I'll be the guy up front grumbling about your video.

Then you got someone like, Beowulf, the arteest

He makes videos to expand the artform

He doesn't really give a shit what you think about his stuff, though he loves you if you like it. That's not why he does it though, he does it for him. You'll see why when his big vid's released. He takes AMVs seriously, which is a good and bad thing. The audience for his kind of video would probably be another AMV creator. His videos aren't really fan favorite material, and he likes it that way.

Eh, I don't know where I'm going with this. I guess I'll just say a few more things. It's important to identify why you make AMVs, and what kind you like. As for "good" videos, I believe them to be ones that are good technically as well as conceptually. However, concept takes precedence over technical quality. The determination of good and bad videos is up to whichever audience you ask.

Beowulf · Post by **Beowulf** » Tue May 03, 2005 2:17 am

its true im an artfag. save me from myself

Rozard · Post by **Rozard** » Tue May 03, 2005 2:24 am

Beowulf wrote:its true im an artfag. save me from myself

wurpess · Post by **wurpess** » Tue May 03, 2005 2:49 am

I run into this too. Apparently people think a video I made in about 5 hours (from the time I came up with the concept to the time I saved the finished product to my computer.) is about as good as a video that took me a week or 2 to make (after I had had the concept for a couple weeks before that.) I also purposely pick odd combos, just b/c I think it would be cool. The more odd the combo I pick, the less people like it. I don't care. I'm having fun. So some poeple get higher scores even though their vid isn't that good. So what?! That's their business. The scorers will get theirs in the end!