Why no opinion grade for lyric synch?

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Post by kitsunebeolnet » Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:59 pm

Otohiko wrote:
mexicanjunior wrote:I love lyric synch, everyone should dew it. :up:
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Alright, fine, I'll support this idea of adding a category, but only if there's a special option to give someone an 11 for successfully lyric-synching Captain Beefheart. :roll:

Heck, I'd give a 12 for Lollipops, Sunshine, and rrrRRRrrr :lol:

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Post by Otohiko » Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:10 pm

:lol:

Smooth, smooth.

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As much as I think it's a good idea to reward creative lyric sync though, I really doubt the value of such a mark - I mean, on the one hand, perhaps encouraging more lyric sync is not what we exactly need, mainly because I think it would result in spawning a hellstorm of cheesy, too-literal attempts to get it right. And on the other hand, the difficulties with judging it. Sometimes good lyric sync may go over my head entirely until I dig deeper, which some reviewers may not even bother with. Sometimes all I want in my video is partial lyric sync, or some non-literal lyric sync - but if it were a category like the optional 'effects' and 'lip-sync' ones, should I check 'lyric sync' in such a case or not? It would be reasonable to do it, but knowing that this may result in an undeservedly-low mark, I may be tempted not to, which sort of defeats the purpose of having such a rating for videos with lyrics.

What it seems like is a technical marking category for a subjective element. That could potentially result in a lot of confusion and bitterness, for those who take ops seriously...
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Post by Beowulf » Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:43 pm

I think the reason there isn't a "lyric synch" score box is because lyric sync is incorporated into action sync. Really, its all just "sync".

I think the whole thing should be replaced with "Editing Quality" and just leave it at that.

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Post by Arigatomina » Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:48 pm

Beowulf wrote:I think the whole thing should be replaced with "Editing Quality" and just leave it at that.
Yes!

Are you going to put that in the Suggestions section? It would settle all the issues in this thread, and should be more straight-forward for new members who see 'action' and think they're grading how much fighting is in the vid.

/not that all newbies would be as dense as I was back then ;p

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Post by godix » Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:50 pm

Am I the only one on the site that sees a catagory called Action/Editing sync? The Lip Sync catagory is for lip sync and the Action/Editing Sync catagory is for every other type of sync. If you got some bozo who thinks the score is only for action sync send him a link to a remedial reading class and forget about it.

That being said, back when I was giving reviews I often wished they'd break that catagory into two since I frequently ran into videos that deserved a 7 for editing sync and a 9 for action sync so I'd have to average them out to an 8.
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Post by Wong » Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:56 pm

Wong wrote:i have to change what i said about the sync column....it does say action...but then again it says editing too....and the part of editing should not fall on if it hits beats or not...because editing is all about clip choice...and how you use them...not just where you decide to fade them in.

no..your not the only one
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Post by godix » Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:59 pm

Wong wrote:
Wong wrote:no..your not the only one
It's you and me then, there must be a bug in the system and we see a different scoring catagory than everyone else...
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Post by The end » Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:01 pm

godix wrote:Am I the only one on the site that sees a catagory called Action/Editing sync?
No, I see it too. Personally, I think that a lyric sync category would be useless unless you can select if you want it in it or not.

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Post by kitsunebeolnet » Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:40 pm

godix wrote:If you got some bozo who thinks the score is only for action sync send him a link to a remedial reading class and forget about it.

You can lead a noob to guides, but you can't make them read. :roll:

The biggest thing I'm bitching about is those that think action and lip synch are the only ones worth considering.

Time to educate the masses!
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Post by Katsumi_AMVs » Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:54 pm

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UGH ! One more categorie to give scores ? Image
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