Need MAJOR AMV help!!

Undertow · Post by **Undertow** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:16 pm

Darkness_Style wrote:I have a question too.......
You all use the Windows movie maker, or another better program??

I've never used WMM, basically because that program sickens me, it sucks to levels i couldn't imagine anything could suck. No, i'm using premiere, and every vid i've made here was made with it.

pinky75910 · Post by **pinky75910** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:31 pm

WMM is the first and only prog I've got - and I've been happily using it. I think my vids come out alright, as well as can be expected for an amver of my level. If you wanna get crazy and start going pro, then sure, go ahead, shell out the money for one of them ritzy programs. WMM is fine for beginners.

Darkness_Style · Post by **Darkness_Style** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:26 am

odian0 wrote:but his avitar rocks ^_^

Thanks man!
As you can see, i'm good at making animated GIFs, but now i'm really interested in making AMVs.
I'm gonna try de WMM, and give it a chance.
And Thanks to all, is really good to know that this forum is full of cool people!

Domo arigato gozaimasu! ^-^

See ya!

Apeotheosis · Post by **Apeotheosis** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:21 am

Darkness_Style wrote:
odian0 wrote:but his avitar rocks ^_^
Thanks man!
As you can see, i'm good at making animated GIFs, but now i'm really interested in making AMVs.
I'm gonna try de WMM, and give it a chance.
And Thanks to all, is really good to know that this forum is full of cool people!

Domo arigato gozaimasu! ^-^

See ya!

Could I not flame you? I mean really? I can't even resist.

First of all, follow forum rules, the avatar is too big, get rid of it before an admin sees it or you'll be on the shit list.

Second of all, it's not hard to take a clip....and make it a gif. Do not praise yourself like it's some Godly creation. Trust me, AMV and animated gifs are like Picasso to the little drawings 3 year olds make at Denny's with those 2-crayon packages.

Third of all, WMM is crap. I used it for my first vid and the resolution is choppy, nasty, gross, and other dictionary words I don't feel like pulling out of my head. It's also very limited, as in....you can put a clip in, sync it to music....and that's about it (speaking of WMM, not WMM2). I must admit though, for begginers, it's awesome, because it's as simple as it's going to get. Click, drag, that's about the extent of most of it. And a little cutting here and there. I'd suggest Adobe, or if you wanna go a little cheaper, Ulead, although I thought it was also very limited.

AMVfreak · Post by **AMVfreak** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:14 pm

Hey buddy when the hell are you going to change the damn avatar

and if you're even considering to give WMM a chance use this.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en

Darkness_Style · Post by **Darkness_Style** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:13 am

Apeotheosis wrote: Could I not flame you? I mean really? I can't even resist.

First of all, follow forum rules, the avatar is too big, get rid of it before an admin sees it or you'll be on the shit list.

Second of all, it's not hard to take a clip....and make it a gif. Do not praise yourself like it's some Godly creation. Trust me, AMV and animated gifs are like Picasso to the little drawings 3 year olds make at Denny's with those 2-crayon packages.

Third of all, WMM is crap. I used it for my first vid and the resolution is choppy, nasty, gross, and other dictionary words I don't feel like pulling out of my head. It's also very limited, as in....you can put a clip in, sync it to music....and that's about it (speaking of WMM, not WMM2). I must admit though, for begginers, it's awesome, because it's as simple as it's going to get. Click, drag, that's about the extent of most of it. And a little cutting here and there. I'd suggest Adobe, or if you wanna go a little cheaper, Ulead, although I thought it was also very limited.

o_O?
Ok, I changed it........happy now?

And thanks for the help, but, now I got a new question......
How do I rip a video without the background music??

AMVfreak · Post by **AMVfreak** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:31 am

o_O?
Ok, I changed it........happy now?
And thanks for the help, but, now I got a new question......
How do I rip a video without the background music??

heres the answer to that question and prolly the next few hundred you were gonna ask.

The solution from Video Editing to Watering your plants

rose4emily · Post by **rose4emily** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:51 am

How to get awesome video editing tools for free (without breaking the law):

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Install Linux (Fedora and Mandrake are good choices for someone who's used to the kind of graphical functionality and easy installation offered by Windows)

Get MPlayer/MEncoder (this covers all of your ripping, playback, and transcoding needs)

Get Cinelerra (it's a little quirky, but it offers most of the features of the big commercial programs, and some that I haven't seen elsewhere, so long as you're willing to read the documentation)

Get AVIDemux (to re-sync your video and audio after exporting them separately from Cinelerra, which has some issues with syncing on its own)

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No commercial licences to pay for, no proprietary formats to be forced into, just the tools you need to get some pretty cool stuff done. There's a bit of a learning curve, but the documentation does wonders to cure that. What's more, you can download all the software you'll ever need not pay a cent for it, and be perfectly in the right while doing so. You can even develop programs that use parts of the programs you've downloaded. Open source kicks ass.

pinky75910 · Post by **pinky75910** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:40 am

rose4emily wrote:How to get awesome video editing tools for free (without breaking the law):

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Install Linux (Fedora and Mandrake are good choices for someone who's used to the kind of graphical functionality and easy installation offered by Windows)

Get MPlayer/MEncoder (this covers all of your ripping, playback, and transcoding needs)

Get Cinelerra (it's a little quirky, but it offers most of the features of the big commercial programs, and some that I haven't seen elsewhere, so long as you're willing to read the documentation)

Get AVIDemux (to re-sync your video and audio after exporting them separately from Cinelerra, which has some issues with syncing on its own)

Thanks for all the tips! Can I just search for these words and find them? What is each one responsible for doing? (Except for MPlayer)

rose4emily · Post by **rose4emily** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:13 pm

Linux is an operating system. The current distributions are capable of doing everything Windows does, and quite a few other things as well. I use Fedora, as it's a very popular and easy to use distribution with plenty of available pre-compiled applications and information on how to use it and the applications on it. Mandrake is another popular distro that's a bit more user-friendly at the expense of being a bit less configurable.

Cinelerra (by Heroine Virtual) is a video editing suite that can work with as many tracks of video and audio as your system will handle, uses an xml-based file format for storing projects so you don't have to duplicate or alter your original source files to work with them, has a great set of clip library features, and plenty of editing functionality from the WMM-level cut, drag, and drop kind of editing to a wide variety of compositing, transitioning, and effects features. It has some bugs, so you'd do best to save your project with every significant edit, but is on the whole an exceptionally powerful program once you warm up to it.

AVIDemux is a much simpler program essentially designed to convert video formats and fix broken files. It doesn't do anything MEncoder can't, but it does simplify the process of joining the audio and video tracks exported by Cinelerra (which doesn't export properly synched audio and video when you try to export them together).

MEncoder is packaged with MPlayer and is a command-line tool you can use for ripping DVD footage, transcoding video files on your hard drive, and getting your output into whatever format you want to distribute it in. The man page (manual page - it's a UNIX thing, you just type "man mencoder" at the command-line and it gives you a bunch of information on how to use it) will tell you all of the specifics.

If you do switch to Linux, you might also want to check out OpenOffice and Mozilla. Both come packaged with Fedora, and they might also come with Mandrake, and both are incredably useful. OpenOffice is a full office suite like MS Office that can edit MS Office files just as easily as it can work with its own, and is a nice thing to have when trying to read, edit, or distribute Word or Excel documents. Mozilla is is a cross-platform web browser with an e-mail client, tabs for viewing multiple pages in a single window, an amazingly effective pop-up blocker, and standards complience that blows IE away, especially concerning CSS2 positioning features.

And yes, you can find any of these things through Google.

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One last suggestion - if you decide to work with Cinelerra as a video editor, I find it's best to work with PNG streams. These are nothing but a set of PNG images and a text file listing them. This way you are working with a lossless format and Cinelerra seems to encounter fewer problems than when working with lossy formats like MPEG or DivX. For more information on how to do this, you can go to the "Video Editing" section of my site at http://www.thewired.info. The guide isn't complete yet, but there's plenty of information to start off with if you don't mind a few typos and missing pages.