Christian Music

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Anyway, no. I'm not fans of "Christian's" or their music. Personally, I think music should be about current issues or, hell*Cough*, it could just be rambling on about random shit*cough*. I'm not religious, and I intend to stay that way. I don't prefer music that was made up about stuff that could've possibly happened according to a book.

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I like to provoke people because what I believe is completely different, so I prefer to present my thoughts in a totally demeaning way with absolutely no reason anywhere I can, especially where it's not necessary or asked for!

The question wasn't 'Who isn't a fan of christian music?' Learn to read a bit better.

Damn right I do. Personally, I wouldn't have posted in this topic otherwise. 8) Anyway, is Creed a Christian Band? If they are...I suppose they aren't that bad. For the record, some of the sounds of Christian music is good, I just don't agree with the lyrics.[/b]

[DDramone]

And let's not start another fight over religious ideologies

whoa, there WAS one? didnt think THAT would come up in these forums. someone send me a link to that thread?

[bort]

i like creed. >_<

i just like the way their older songs sound.

[ithaqua]

And let's not start another fight over religious ideologies

whoa, there WAS one? didnt think THAT would come up in these forums. someone send me a link to that thread?

It was a long time ago, and it was rather ugly. I believe it was deleted.
No one wants to do it again.

[HeavyMetal]

I guess I did forget Mozart.

Perhaps I am a fan. Okay I just like Mozart. So guess not.

And let's not start another fight over religious ideologies

Ahhhh....but its fun to see people huff up over it.

[Edymion]

Bah... Why bring up arguements where we don't need them?

[Rorschach]

You know there is plenty of other music that doesn't use sex or cursing as gimmicks.

Though I think most popular music left behind inuendo years ago.

Takes all the fun out of it if you just out right say things.

I agree there's plenty of other good music that doesn't have lots of swearing and innuendo, but I wouldn't say popular music has left the innuendo behind by any means. Case in point, "Jenny" by Blink 182:

I got it (I got) got it
I got your number on the wall
I got it (I got) got it
"For a good time..."
"For a good time, call..."

(We all know what kind of "good time" the writer has in mind, right?) Admittedly, that is rather mild compared to some songs from earlier eras ("Rhapsody in the Rain" or "Angel in the Centerfold" anyone?), but innuendo never really goes away. I've also heard a few isolated bits of swearing from Pink, Avril Lavigne, and whoever sang that nasty "A.M. Radio" song.

Of course, how bad things are in the mainstream also depends on what you define as mainstream. If your definition includes hip-hop, which does have a rather large listening audience, things have gotten very bad indeed. If not, popular music is arguably cleaner than it was, but there's still the matter of the broader range of genres and their growing influence. "Pop" isn't as popular as it used to be. Gangsta rap is not the most successful genre around, but it's done more than its share in vulgarizing society. And so things go.

Again, sex and violence in songs might actually be a good thing if done right. Swearing is another issue; I've seen some places where swearing does contribute a kind of admirable realism to things, but most of them aren't in songs.

Case where swearing demonstrated realism: the opening speech in the film "Patton" done in front of the American flag. Did you know they actually had to tone that speech down for the movie? Patton's foul mouth was legendary.

[Edymion]

I like the real Patton. The movie was toned down, yes... Albeit, there were some traits in Patton the WWII US Army could have done without He was still a good soldier and excellent tactician.

Anyway... Yeah, I'd have to agree with your overall statement. I don't like how vulgarity can detract from a song. I've heard plenty of really good song where one use of a vulgar word just ruined for me because it was completely misplaced and easisly could have been reworded.

I don't know the name of the song, but it's from the 80's. It's one played...fairly regularly on an "oldies and 90s mix" station, and the chorus has the f-word in it. The station claims it doesn't allow such use of profanity (namely words worse than certain "common usage" profanities), but it's there, in the song, each and every single time. I hate it when the song is stuck in my head.

[Rorschach]

I like the real Patton. The movie was toned down, yes... Albeit, there were some traits in Patton the WWII US Army could have done without He was still a good soldier and excellent tactician.

Anyway... Yeah, I'd have to agree with your overall statement. I don't like how vulgarity can detract from a song. I've heard plenty of really good song where one use of a vulgar word just ruined for me because it was completely misplaced and easily could have been reworded.

I don't know the name of the song, but it's from the 80's. It's one played...fairly regularly on an "oldies and 90s mix" station, and the chorus has the f-word in it. The station claims it doesn't allow such use of profanity (namely words worse than certain "common usage" profanities), but it's there, in the song, each and every single time. I hate it when the song is stuck in my head.

Hm. Trying to figure out which one you mean... I know they still play Alanis Morisette, but she was from the 1990s. (When they get to the nasty words in her songs on radio stations around here, they usually bleep them out in some creative way. "Are you thinking of me when you ["Edit!"] her?" Then there's Santana's song "Smooth" which I hate anyway. (It got stuck in my head for a while back when I was working in a movie theater and had to hear it being played all the time.) I think the lyrics say something like "...love you." but he eats his words so much that it comes out sounding more like "...f*** you." That's also from the 1990s, though.

With some songs, I wish the lyrics could be so easily changed. Take Avril Lavigne's "I'm With You." I thought it would go well in a musical church play I was thinking of writing, but it's problematic: if you have the woman sing "damp, cold night," it erases some of the impact of the sentiment, and the audience can hardly forget the original lyric. Nothing else I can think of really fits the bill for that scene, though.

[Edymion]

I didn't want to give even a smidgen of the chorus I will though... You might recall the song.

"...when I [explitive removed] you!"

I is from the 80s, that much I remember. I also get this twitch when I do hear the song...