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Post by Edymion » Tue May 25, 2004 3:32 pm

I know; I know. This is probably not exactly the most popular music multi-genre for this site, but I'm a big fan. I listen to New Life (91.9 Charlotte) almost exclussively due to what I consider poor music quality present on the radio, today. I grow tired of all the profanity and excessive sexual inuendo, really.


ANYWAY!! On to my point... Are there any other Christian fans here? I was actually working on a project, with my extreme newbie skills, revolving around Wolfood (Trigun) as he fit perfectly with one theme that I was trying to exploit. I'll tell you now; that project has long since been scrapped due to...uber poor quality... I'm better at writing, planning, and conceptualizing than bringing to life (see signature). I have a few good fanfictions, some of which I've lost the *.doc or *.txt file to :(


ANYWAY!! Yeah... Are there any other fans out there? One of my favorite individual singers is Carmam.
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Re: Christian Music

Post by Unfound » Tue May 25, 2004 4:14 pm

Edymion wrote:I know; I know. This is probably not exactly the most popular music multi-genre for this site, but I'm a big fan. I listen to New Life (91.9 Charlotte) almost exclussively due to what I consider poor music quality present on the radio, today. I grow tired of all the profanity and excessive sexual inuendo, really.


ANYWAY!! On to my point... Are there any other Christian fans here? I was actually working on a project, with my extreme newbie skills, revolving around Wolfood (Trigun) as he fit perfectly with one theme that I was trying to exploit. I'll tell you now; that project has long since been scrapped due to...uber poor quality... I'm better at writing, planning, and conceptualizing than bringing to life (see signature). I have a few good fanfictions, some of which I've lost the *.doc or *.txt file to :(


ANYWAY!! Yeah... Are there any other fans out there? One of my favorite individual singers is Carmam.
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At first, I thought it said "biotch" and you were just being hypocritical.

Anyway, no. I'm not fans of "Christian's" or their music. :P Personally, I think music should be about current issues or, hell*Cough*, it could just be rambling on about random shit*cough*. I'm not religious, and I intend to stay that way. I don't prefer music that was made up about stuff that could've possibly happened according to a book. :?

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Post by DDramone » Tue May 25, 2004 4:17 pm

i personally belive ALL ideologies are bad. but i dont fault no one.

i no a good christan band: dogwood

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Post by Edymion » Tue May 25, 2004 4:50 pm

*thinks about revising "biotech" to "BioTech"...*

I'd like to first state that believing that all ideologies are bad is hypocritical. An ideology can be anything from a simple belief to a theory. You ideolize that evolution occurs (evolutionism or Darwinism), creation occure (creationism), or both exist in a balanced mixture (neo-creationism -- where I fall). There is no such thing as atheism as "a-theist" states that you "have no belief."

Bah...that ends my rant, and people will be like, "What?!" to that...

As for not being a fan of "Christians," I believe you are refering to the "pushy, snobby, 'I'm better than you.'" types your refering to. I, myself, believe that Christ did not come to give a "new" religion or set of laws, but, rather, a relationship and the chance to live free of sin (having it washed away) and life with GOD when you leave your material body.

I guess I was right in my educated guess that there would be few who would answer possitively to my question...at least within the first hour or so...
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Post by TobinHood » Tue May 25, 2004 6:26 pm

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Re: Christian Music

Post by Otohiko » Tue May 25, 2004 7:07 pm

Edymion wrote: I listen to New Life (91.9 Charlotte) almost exclussively due to what I consider poor music quality present on the radio, today. I grow tired of all the profanity and excessive sexual inuendo, really.
Actually, not to be a snob/troll - but that is the reason I went to the record store and fileshares and found some music that was far more profane and full of innuendos than radio would allow, which I now love dearly (ex. Frank Zappa). Strange how different people respond to the same stimulus differently, that's all.

As for Christian fans - well - there are at least a few here, hopefully they'll show up soon enough. There's a couple of Christian Metal listeners around here I've heard from, at least.

And let's not start another fight over religious ideologies, etc., over here. This is a music forum, remember.

Myself, I've heard quite a bit of good Christian music, mainly through my dad who worked as a musician at a church (and even attended seminary and was ordained as a pastor, which is almost bizzare given his sharp disillusion with all organized, traditional religion lately), and brought in a few things from here and there. For the most part, my impression of good Christian music (though I've heard some that is really bland) is decent, predictable, but often emotional softer (or at least positive) songs.

For the most part, I find it to be a good music of comfort. Which, of course, is almost entirely lost on me since what I'm presently looking for in music is a lot of pointed sticks and sudden jolts of energy, stuff that throws your mind in disarray and then makes you put it back together piece by piece.

But I can surely see how and why a Christian-oriented person sick of mainstream radio would turn to this as a natural choice.

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Post by Moonlight Soldier » Tue May 25, 2004 7:54 pm

hello *waves*

1. I have heard Christian rock bands before through friends, just can't remember enough to talk about them ^^;;

2. At the risk of affront...was Endymion taken? /as a Moonius Fangurlius Edymion is bugging me...but just asking through curiousity (!)

3. I think your banner's nifty. Where'd you get the sprites from? (Though it would be cool if it was bigger, but alas the rules.

Anyways, welcome and such ^_^

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Post by azulmagia » Tue May 25, 2004 7:55 pm

Edymion wrote:I'd like to first state that believing that all ideologies are bad is hypocritical. An ideology can be anything from a simple belief to a theory. You ideolize that evolution occurs (evolutionism or Darwinism), creation occure (creationism), or both exist in a balanced mixture (neo-creationism -- where I fall). There is no such thing as atheism as "a-theist" states that you "have no belief."
Ah, no, you have it confused with agnosticism. "a-gnostos" "no-knowledge". "a-theist" = "a-theos" = "no-god'. Just like an aleprechaunist is someone who professes no belief in leprechauns...

"No-belief" would be "apisticism" if there was such a word in the English language. :wink:

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Post by Rorschach » Tue May 25, 2004 8:11 pm

I've heard a few good CCM pieces, but a lot of the contemporary stuff seems like pale imitations of secular songs. We're too nice to the singers, you ask me: after the performance, everyone lies and says how wonderful it all was, even if it's a lot of pale piety with no substance. I've heard some Carmen; not really my idea of stellar stuff. Newsboys and Jars of Clay are more my style, even if they are rather "artsy" and abstract with some of their lyrics.

Ironically, the very solution to CCM's problems might be to put more sex and violence into the songs. If you look back over the Scriptures carefully, they're neither pacifist nor Victorian in their treatment of these subjects, though they do advocate that sex and violence be applied only for some very specific purposes (i.e. marriage and justice). Then too, they don't cringe from showing humanity's depravity, though their descriptions of some of it are tastefully compact and understated. Christian songs should be the same way: not devoid of sex and violence, but full of the right kind of sex and violence... or warnings (by humor, stern condemnations, or both) against other kinds.

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Re: Christian Music

Post by Qyot27 » Tue May 25, 2004 8:32 pm

Edymion wrote:I guess I was right in my educated guess that there would be few who would answer possitively to my question...at least within the first hour or so...
I think the choice isn't so much a bad one, it's just that when you bring religious music into the foray, there's going to be some off-topic religious conversation and debate almost always tied into it...at least, while you're bringing the subject up on a general forum. But that's off-topic as well...*smacks self in forehead* doh!
Edymion wrote:ANYWAY!! On to my point... Are there any other Christian fans here?
*raises hand* Right here. I gotta say I don't quite listen to as much as some of my other friends, due to the fact that my general outlook on life (the Gothic Christian outlook) isn't exactly something that is catered to in Christian music all that much (although my outlook in no way contradicts my faith).

The few bands that I have found perform what I view as very underrepresented genres in Christian music. Industrial/Electronic rock and Goth rock. As yet, I haven't found any Christian Goth rock bands (Goth in it's true sonic form, that is, not Evanescence-type stuff; although I do listen to Evanescence). Since Christian music as a whole isn't supposed to be that depressing, I mostly listen to normal old Goth rock and Industrial, which is full of ambiguous religious symbolism, and doesn't necessarily stand behind a particular religion, since it's mostly introspective and open to your own interpretation, and can still be inspiring to listen to as a Christian.

But I listen to a few other bands. Newsboys, Skillet, MxPx, Circle of Dust, Klank, Celldweller, Mortal, dc Talk, The Echoing Green, and Amy Grant to name some of them (yeah, that list probably makes me sound like a schizo, but hey, why not?)
Rorschach wrote:Ironically, the very solution to CCM's problems might be to put more sex and violence into the songs. Then too, they don't cringe from showing humanity's depravity, though their descriptions of some of it are tastefully compact and understated.
I fully agree. In fact, a couple of the Christian bands I listen to address, not necessarily sex and violence, but rather, a life that isn't construed as perfect and saintly, albeit to extremely harsh degrees.
Rorschach wrote:Christian songs should be the same way: not devoid of sex and violence, but full of the right kind of sex and violence... or warnings (by humor, stern condemnations, or both) against other kinds.
That would be great, but I don't think the majority of Christian music distributors would be very kindly towards those subjects being brought up, seeing as how a vast majority of them, while not being complete prudes, are still very fundamental in their beliefs. Even if the record company was fine with it, the bookstores and such wouldn't be very receptive. After all, P.O.D.'s Southtown album had it's cover art censored when it was sold in Christian bookstores and music shops.
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