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Post by trythil » Sat Jan 17, 2004 7:33 am

Pie Row Maniac wrote:I've never had a true girlfriend (though I've had my heart broken before) and I have no romance videos at all at this point.

Coincidence?

I think not!
I'm not sure if it means anything, either. Having a significant other isn't a prerequisite for making romance videos. Art mirrors life and life mirrors art, but sometimes you can use one of those fun-house mirrors to bend things way out of proportion.

I don't know where I was going with that analogy, but maybe you got the point :?

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Post by Arigatomina » Sat Jan 17, 2004 10:17 am

My favorite romance vids are made by females - the number of male editors who make romance vids I like is very small - there are a few.

But the statistics explain this - there are more male editors than female. Romance is one of the widest genres of amvs. So there are bound to be more males making romance vids than females. Doesn't mean they're better, just that there are more of them.

As for guys making vids dedicated to girlfriends, or showing their pain at breakups - well, maybe it takes more for a guy to *want* to make/watch a romance vid. And since girls are known for the huge genre of romance in real life (romance novels, romance 'chick' flicks), maybe they are prone to watch/make the sort that appeal to other females. Once the ratio of male/female evens out, I'm sure the number of females making romance vids will increase. Right now, I strongly suspect the ones watching the romance vids remain mainly female.

Some stereotypes hold.

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Post by Jonathan02us » Sat Jan 17, 2004 11:01 am

Voices_Of_Ryan wrote:
Klicks wrote:Well, this can be answered be a simple equaction of quantum phsyics...so, got get to studying and stuff.

This can all be solved by a famous quote by some old dude who had no life -

"While (most) women cry to show obvious emotion at being dumped (etc),
(most) guy's hide the emotion and evoke it in other things... books, movies, music (or amv's?)."
That is a good quote, i like it. I think it holds true to most guys. U see, most guys are lead to believe that it is being a wimp, or a gurl if u cry. SO this makes them hold onto their feelings and express it in other things, in this situation... AMV's. Although i havent seen many romantic/drama AMV's i can say that the people who make them, weither they are guys or gurls, show a lot of emition in them. I think its pretty koo to express things in other ways, guys dont have to cry to show their emotions, they just show it in other ways, its in the guy rules ... Crying is for wimp ...
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Post by )v(ajin Koji » Sat Jan 17, 2004 11:08 am

but who can say they're never cried? :?
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Post by Jonathan02us » Sat Jan 17, 2004 11:13 am

)v(ajin Koji wrote:but who can say they're never cried? :?
True true, i admit, I cried at times. But i mean, in general, how often do u see a guy crying at a theater. I personally havent seen one yet, so i guess, if a guy wants to express his feelings by crying, they would do it in a less public place like their room o something. Im sure there are a lot of guys that cry, but they do it in secret so that society wont call them weak. Well thats wat i think.
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Post by LoST RaiNDRoP » Sat Jan 17, 2004 11:23 am

well.. i dont think guys that make those romance/drama AMVs are gay... lets say, they are just sensitive and romantic in some way. not in a gay way. i mean.. my first video is romantic with a very special reason. coz im gonna send it to the most coolest girl ive ever met. and sending her a sorta action AMV isnt gonna "impress" her so much... and hey, i think theres nothing more sweet than showing a girl you love her through a music video. hehe.. well, thats my opinion. i like the sweet/romantic AMVs much better.

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Post by Arigatomina » Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:16 pm

Jonathan02us wrote:But i mean, in general, how often do u see a guy crying at a theater.
I would leave before I'd cry in a theater, or any public place. Aside from acting, I don't know any girls who just start crying over a movie in public, or even with their friends. It isn't that crying makes you a wimp, it's that crying is private - unless you're sharing your grief with someone, you don't just walk into a crowded room and cry in front of a bunch of strangers. Male or female - I know no one who is comfortable crying in front of people who don't share the pain.

I think that's one reason amvs are more powerful when they're done by people who are putting their pain into film - because people usually try to keep those emotions private. A lot of the time the reason those films/books are so powerful is *because* the author says "I made this to express my joy/pain/agony over this having happened to me" - and then the viewer/reader has that mindset going into it. One of the reasons biographical stories are so touching is that you know they're based on a real instance. They can relate to it in a way you can't relate to someone who cries all the time for the world to see - as if it's meaningless.

At the same time, you have to watch out for falling into the cliche (think female romance novels all having the same plot) - the old "my girlfriend broke up with me so I made a vid" or "I made this for my girlfriend" line. Without those notes, the vids are just more romance/angsty drama vids, but after a while I see those descriptions and think "not again...what's with these guys..." Emotion is powerful until it becomes ordinary - and there are enough breakup/love pledge vids out there for it to loose its strength over time.

That's another reason I don't think the male-majority of romance vids will last. After a while they'll lose their strength, become commonplace, and fall in with all the other romance vids you see. Hopefully there'll come a time when a guy can make a romance vid without the viewer thinking "Oh, he must have gotten a new girlfriend, or broken up with one" and start thinking "Oh, nice to see a guy appreciate the emotional side of anime."

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Post by TekkaRepliroid Zero » Sat Jan 17, 2004 1:34 pm

I agree that the better romance vids are from girls, but I don't think that guys are incapable of surpassing girls in this genre... once in a blue moon anyway ^^. My latest falls into the romance category but in a rather atypical fashion (see sig).
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Post by J-0080 » Sat Jan 17, 2004 1:38 pm

Stop being sexist, a guy can make just as good a romance video as a girl can.
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Post by Arigatomina » Sat Jan 17, 2004 1:44 pm

J-0080 wrote:Stop being sexist, a guy can make just as good a romance video as a girl can.
Of course they can - I'm just talking about motivation and the effect that has on how the vid is received. Take 50 romance amvs made by guys who say they did it because of a breakup or to profess their feelings - strip that part out of the vid description, and see if people react to them differently. If the vid is a good one, they won't - meaning there's no need for a guy to make some excuse as to why he chose to do a romance vid. He can make one because he feels like it, rather than having to find some 'breakup/relationship' to use as motivation for it.

The stigma here seems to be that any guy making one falls into those categories - breakup or current romance - because otherwise a guy wouldn't make a romance vid. I'm saying that excuse will get old very quickly, why not drop it altogether and make vids because you choose to - not because a girl drove you to express your feelings the only way you know how. In almost every romance vid I've seen by a guy - they tag on that "I had to make this, don't hold the emotional display against me" disclaimer. I don't think it's necessary, and eventually that tagline will hurt the vids - whether they're good by themselves or not.

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