Star Ratings

StarMasayume · Post by **StarMasayume** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 2:32 pm

I don't want to ask for it to show the person that's rating, I can understand why it's better for them to be anonymous, but I have two suggestions concerning the star ratings...

first one, is that at least we can see a "break down" of the stars. Meaning, we can see how many did 4 or 3, if someone was a meanie and did a 1 or it really is the average. I just personally wish that I could tell which ratings were done to create the average. If there is a way to see a breakdown of it, could you tell me how?

The second is one that I REALLY wish was implemented. I think it'd be great if it was made that we can do star ratings in-between the whole stars. So that people can rate 1.5, 2.5, 3.5, and 4.5 as well. Sometimes I just drive myself crazy for a couple minutes trying to decide between a 3 and a 4 or a 4 and a 5 and wish there was a middle ground that I can choose. Cause really, it's making me choose to score higher than I feel, or lower than I feel.

Any chance these two things will happen

Org Profile · Post by **Phade** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:10 pm

Hey,

The breakdown idea is a good one and will most likely be implemented. As for adding the half scores, I'm not too crazy about the idea. Originally, the star system was going to be a thumb system, up or down. After some discussion, I decided to expand the scoring to 5 options. Expanding them to 10 options would result in the same problem the 10 options that the opinions system has: too many arbitrary high scores and not enough use of lower scores.

Phade.

HungryCrackPot · Post by **HungryCrackPot** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:36 pm

I would also like to suggest a 0 star.
I really wouldnt use it THAT much, but one or two AMVs I get every here and there REALLY need a 0 star BADLY.

StarMasayume · Post by **StarMasayume** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:56 am

Hmm, I already think of a 1 star equivelant to zero. A one to me means that the video was a flop, not one good aspect about it.

And thanks Phade

I'll look forward to being able to see what's behind my star averages. As for the in-between stars, I guess I can understand a bit we're you're coming from. It would make it seem closer to the opinions. If it's mainly about encouraging honest, lower scores though, when I'm faced between a 3 and a 4, wishing there was a middle ground, I tend to choose the higher instead of the lower. I'm just optimistic like that. If a 3.5 is my honest feeling for how much the vid deserrved, I feel like I've been forced to raise it to 4. >,<

While I'm talking about the star ratings, I'm still a bit confused under what merits we should be judging it?? You said thumbs up/thumbs down--so does that mean it's subjective? Or should it be both subjective and objective?? You can consider a really great video as fair if it just doesn't personally work for you, or a pretty horrible video on technical aspects and such could still be high stars if it really effected the person.

So, you or someone could clear that up for me? ^_^;

HungryCrackPot · Post by **HungryCrackPot** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 12:43 pm

StarMasayume wrote:Hmm, I already think of a 1 star equivelant to zero. A one to me means that the video was a flop, not one good aspect about it.

Not really. If a MILLION people watch a video, and they ALL give it 1's, it still gets a million stars. EVEN THOUGH IT SUCKED, it would be #1 by default.

Declan_Vee · Post by **Declan_Vee** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 1:13 pm

HungryCrackPot wrote:I would also like to suggest a 0 star.
I really wouldnt use it THAT much, but one or two AMVs I get every here and there REALLY need a 0 star BADLY.

Good idea. To look at it like this. There are only 2 degrees of below average. As opposed to the 3 for above average. Of course saying 3 is average and 5 is best doesn't quite sit all that well with me. I'd be hoping that people would use those 0 stars as sparingly as they should be the 5s

VegettoEX · Post by **VegettoEX** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 1:48 pm

HungryCrackPot wrote:
StarMasayume wrote:Hmm, I already think of a 1 star equivelant to zero. A one to me means that the video was a flop, not one good aspect about it.
Not really. If a MILLION people watch a video, and they ALL give it 1's, it still gets a million stars. EVEN THOUGH IT SUCKED, it would be #1 by default.

No it wouldn't... a million "1" scores all average out to "1"... unless I'm totally missing something...

I believe there should be nothing below a "1" for one (heh) simple reason: the person took the effort to combine video and audio, and that at least deserves the acknowledgment. Sure, they may not do it WELL, and the viewer may honestly ask themselves whether or not the artist was CONSCIOUS when they were combining the two, but regardless... it was still done.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 5:24 pm

Declan_Vee wrote:
HungryCrackPot wrote:I would also like to suggest a 0 star.
I really wouldnt use it THAT much, but one or two AMVs I get every here and there REALLY need a 0 star BADLY.
Good idea. To look at it like this. There are only 2 degrees of below average. As opposed to the 3 for above average. Of course saying 3 is average and 5 is best doesn't quite sit all that well with me.

However, it IS accurate, considering that there is no zero, only one. If the lowest possible star rating was zero, the average would be 2.5, but it isn't.

koronoru · Post by **koronoru** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 12:49 pm

You know what I'd like?

I would like to have a way of rating a video as "no rating".

The thing is, I recently downloaded a video that had an .mpeg file extension, but was actually a Quicktime file. My player software couldn't play the sound, and crashed halfway through even just on the video. There isn't really any way I can give a meaningful rating on this video, because I can't hear the sound nor see all of the video! If I'd known it was Quicktime, I probably wouldn't have downloaded it in the first place. But now that I've downloaded it, the system demands that I give it a rating, and will penalize me (by not letting me download future videos) if there are too many for which I haven't given a star rating. I gave it a 1, figuring "vid creator is a dumbass who mislabelled the file --> video sucks"; but really, it would be more fair if I could in some way designate it as "cannot rate".

I realise that just implementing that directly could cause problems because the feature might end up being over-used; but maybe there would be some way to make it work that would avoid that problem.

Lyrs · Post by **Lyrs** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:00 pm

ppl (sometimes I) with generally slower pc's can't really watch higher quality avi amvs without major slowdowns regardless of the detail minimization...for these videos, what score would fit?