turboneko wrote:I'd suggest to contact Phade to have those ops removed... can't believe there is people really so stupid
I have attempted contacting phade before, to tell him to remove one of my extra AMV's (a rule violation), and he has yet to respond. Damned if I care. The truth is even if I had them removed, several hundred other people would jump in and repeat it, if not the original two themselves. Its ok, because even assholes have a right to an opinion. As you mention later (and I'm totally twisting your words here), there somewhat of a fairness to it.
turboneko wrote:I don't want to be rude, but I think that you are making a too big deal out of this. Comment the review, email the guy... this is ok, but going public on the forums looks like a little too much to me.
I was pretty emotional last night. I realized that it would come off that way (too much) to some people, but I'm still glad I posted this, it made me feel a lot better. My friends thought it was pretty damn funny.
turboneko wrote:Even if the guy is biased against LP, he didn't leave a straight 1's review with no comments just to bring the video down: and if you read carefully he explains also what he thinks is good and bad in the video
Good good quality
Bad just didnt really get a point across
General There was far too much use of fading and the scene selection could have been better
A '2' followed 12 minutes later by a '3' is mathematically much worse than a single blasting of 1's.
As far as the comments, I felt some of them were complete bullshit, a cheap slap in the face in some cases. (Didn't get the point across? Many other reviewers said they were moved by it, if the sabateur didn't see the anime of course he wouldn't get the point. What a dumb f*ck, I'm sorry. Sometimes opinions can be stupid.)
As far as the scene selection critique, its my vision and my AMV, if you want more "action" make the damn AMV yourself, dont fight my interpretation; instead embrace it, try to understand it. Honestly so many people were refreshed that this amv didnt just show unsynced action pointlessly as so many other Berserk AMV's have.
turboneko wrote:Now, he could have been a little more detailed but hey, everybody is entitled to his own opinion and way to express it (given it's not insulting).
Actually it was QUITE insulting...
Ninjutsu wrote:Made me think about how good of a video it could have been...
I hope you didn't spend too much time on this video because if so, I'd be asking for my time back.
Ouch.
Black Magic wrote:Their music is so popular that a bunch of noobs always use one of their songs for their first video so that nobody ever wants to download one of their vids anymore.
(Insulting my intelligence, as if I didn't know that about LP vids, read the F*cking disclaimer.)
Black Magic wrote: I saw that the video has an accumulated rating of 9.8 and this is the most disgusting thing to me. It's like a slap in the face to every video editer of talent on these boards.
Now, as much as I want keep my game face on, I have to admit, that last one really hurt. I already understand that I don't have a lot of natural talent for editing programs, but I do have a LOT of passion, and I give more effort than most (Making AMV's is all I do, nothing else is fun anymore). So when one guy insulted my effort and the other insulted my talent, that was too much to bear.
turboneko wrote:Now, I did watch your video. I have my own personal opinion about (but I didn't review it because I have no time)... can't go in full detail here (otherwise I'd write an op

), but let me tell you that it's a good "average" video. The timing is nice, it has sort of a plot... but the effects are often too cheesy and some clips are way too accelerated.
Thank you. I'm glad this at least got you to watch it, that's what I was going for. Its is DEFINITELY NOT top ten % material. I 100% completely agree with your criticisms (espescially on the effects, if you check my description theres even a disclaimer about how 'average' they are). I got those same complaints from each of the 8 other reviewers who left a decently done review. Of course it is my first AMV, and to even try some of the things I did was very ambitious (too much) in my opinion. I think in general the video suffered from being too ambitious, for trying to do too much.
turboneko wrote:For a first video, it's pretty good. I am not buying the fact that "the song fits perfectly" too much since, if you try, you can match it to basically a gozillion anime (that's another reason why it's so overused). Can't take away the fact that it goes well with Berserk, though.
Wow. For the only time in this post, I very strongly disagree with you. Sure you can get any song to sync with any AMV, and you can certainly make things "work" despite song and video, but there is artistic element that you are not accounting for. When a songwriter makes a song, they are putting a peice of themself into it. When a writer pens the script for an anime (given he's not just trying to make a buck, but trying to be artistic) he too puts a peice of himself into it. I consider myself an artist, because I can feel the kindredness of spirit in matching materials. Perhaps its difficult to see this, as its purely subjective, but most people saw it about half as much as I did, at least. One person, Cory Townsend, a stranger who left an extremely detailed review, felt the connection EVEN STRONGER THAN I DID. Guess what? I looked into it and He was making a Berserk AMV at nearly the exact same time I was. I think we both had the same gut feeling because we had both been immersed in berserk for a long period of time (in his case, from making his AMV).
turboneko wrote:In the whole process of dealing with this video my feeling is that you made some mistakes:
1) You reviewed it yourself (and you it gave a 10). If you are seeing a plan on bringing it down in the top 10% well... I think this is an attempt to boost it up (or not?)
2) You think too highly of it. I know, it's hard. It's your first video and such, and you did a good job. But, honestly, with a really critic eye (maybe even a little neatpicky

) it's not so impressive.
3) You are taking the fact of using LP as something that will bring doom and misfortune onto you and your video. I have to disagree. It's true that most of "vets" will look the other way... but it's also true that LP has a huge fan base (who, incidentally, have the chance of liking your video).
1.) I agree. I wont next time.
2.) I don't. I thougt it was 8-9 rating material, but apparently many others thought otherwise, maybe they were just being nice, maybe they hadn't seen many AMV's, maybe they hadnt seen a better Berserk LP vid (at least 3 people said that). Its resting now at about 8.3. Thats about what it deserves really, maybe a tiny bit higher.
3.) I was a little unclear in my 2nd post, but what I meant was that it was impossible to succeed (with LP) without some credibility. The two sabateurs assumed I was a noob (reading the disclaimer would have clarified this, but apparrently these are people who don't like to read). I have been around AMV's for a long long time and only recently have I attempted to make one. That being said, the following is something that I did not realized until the gun was smoking: If AD, ERMAC, or Koopaskeva had tried a LP vid, people would be less likely to accuse them (of being noobs) or of unoriginality, and the vid would last lot longer on the top ten % list. (It would also be a hell of a lot better of course.)
turboneko wrote:Concluding, this post is in no way ment to be rude/flame/hate/whatever. It's just my opinion.
No offense taken. Feel free to post again. I'll read it if you do.
godix wrote:Where exactly is the problem here? You gave yourself a 10 review in an obvious effort to boost your ratings. Two users gave you lower reviews in what might be an effort to lower your ratings or it just might be their honest opinion. Sounds like you're still ahead in the deal, no one has done straight 1's to offset your rating yet. Just be glad you got 9 other people to op it so far, that's more than many creators get, myself included.
True. However it takes about ten 10's to undo a 1. A 10 doesn't balance out a 2 and a 3. I really don't consider their reviews "honest" opinions. I got nothing but 9's and 10's until they came along, so how can I consider scores that low realistic? This is more or less what happened: People who saw the vid before it hit the top of the top ten % list were berserk fans who could stomach LP, and they gave a good score because it was basically an awesome vid for that criteria. However once the video unfortunately hit the top ten % list, it was being viewed by a different crowd altogether, with totally different (and stricter) criteria, not to mention a list of "unwritten" rules. Unfortunately, one person has little power to build, but a lot of power to destroy. This may be unfair, but its just the way it goes. All in all it was a VERY educating experience, and very worth the pain.
I am personally unconcerned with stars, but yes I was very honored that so many people were impressed by it and troubled themselves by leaving a review. Thanks again everyone. Paulo I thought your post was hilarious. I'm glad to that you can laugh about stuff like that now.