Don't give crappy a** ratings if a video doesn't deserve it.

[Mr Pilkington]

I'm really getting pissed off now. I mean people are giving crappy a** ratings when the video doesn't deserve it. I mean obvious crappy ratings. Because our video was number one this person who obviously has no idea about making videos. Goes ahead and bombs our video like it was nothing at all and yet Shrine of the Goddess 2 is going to used over in a UK university for an anime club to look out and get new people to join. I mean come on obviously this is not the way it was suppost to be.

I have read 90% of this thread and came to one conclusion. You are a whiney punk with no aspiration to listen to reason. I was going to tell you to be glad you get opinions at all. Some of us can’t get the lazy bastards who download our shit to leave a star rating; let alone numeric or opinionative. But I bet you have some smart-ass answer for that too. Quit your bitching and face the facts. You do indeed suck.

[trythil]

Okay let me phrase this better. When I rate a video I take a look if it is an original idea. Like has this song been used before or not. If it hasn't then what series was used and how many times. Then Capture I take a look if it was a crystal clear picture or if it wasn't or in between. Then Sound did it sound like it is CD quality or of a really bad recorded tape. Action did the scenes match the rhythm of the music when there was no words and fit the mood and did the scenes fit the lyrics of the song. Lipsync well that's kind of obvious did the person match the mouth with the voice correctly. Then effects it is your own opinion about it.

Well y'see almost all "normal" reviewers review that way, you're almost preaching to the choir here. People who are honest, DO review that way. You almost make it seem like "if you don't like a video, dont' rate it b/c it'll hurt it's averages." Averages arent' that big of a deal...hell if you're at #25X or something...out of what...12,000 videos...isn't that pretty good?

Actually, I think his review system sucks, and I hope that most reviewers don't review like that, or are trying to advance beyond that point.

Originality: It shouldn't matter how many times a song or a series has been used -- that's NOT a good way to score originality. (This even applies to LinkinBall Z, despite the fact that we all make fun of them.) What it should be is "what did this person do, and do I think it's pretty neat?"

Also with Action. Audio/video sync is very easy to do, and I don't think that that should be the sole basis for judging.

Did the sync mean anything? Were there any especially poignant moments that audio/video sync really contributed to (or detracted from, if there was a moment that didn't quite match up)? Were there any particularly creative matches between audio and video (like neat usage of solos, portamentos, tempo changes, rhythms, percussive effects, etc.)? Did the synchronization just seem gratuituous or did it actually help to convey the meaning(s) of the video?

Lipsync. Again, very easy to match mouth movements with words. If you have a paint program and an hour, you can do mouth-matching very easily. But does the body language of the character go with the words and the mouth movements? Does it make sense given the content of the scene (character placement, additional characters, lighting, facial expression, colorization, and so forth)?

Effects. Well, everything's subjective. But did the effects mean anything? Did they look cool? Did they "work" for you in the audiovisual context?

Alright, so maybe I'm being nitpicky. However, I'm surprised that the originator of this thread is complaining about bad reviews, when it seems that he's giving superficial reviews himself.

Anyway, about bad reviews:

It's not the end of the world, and it's certainly not something to get hugely worked up about. They're numbers. Big deal. If you're going to let something as insignificant as AMV creation be influenced by something as insignificant as quantized opinions ON AMV creation, then I think you've got bigger problems than bad opinionators.

[MAS PRODUCTIONS]

Personally I dont care what people rate my videos, I create videos to either express the way I feel or try to convay a message that was presented in the anime. NO creator should do things and think they deserve recognizition because of it. You cant force a person to like or hate something and I agree a lot of the time it is unfair when people give bad ratings. I would look at it this way it was on top for a little while, and that should be good enough.

[Flint the Dwarf]

Trythil, you're a little too picky.

Originality: I agree. It should be how the video is presented.

Action: This should be how consistent the sync is and whether it keeps you glued to the video instead of letting your mind wander.

Lipsync: This should be measured on how well done it is. Not everyone can do lip sync well and has the patience for it. But! I will say that it also should correlate with the story of the video and a corresponding character.

Effects: I say this should simply be measured on how well the effects are used. Not how many or how cool... just how well they were used. Not gratuitously either.

[dbz_doomrider]

Trythil....

Perfect.

You are 100 percent correct on this....yes, that's exactly the way it should be. I could not have conveyed that one better myself...


Still awaiting my review though :s

[dwchang]

Personally I dont care what people rate my videos, I create videos to either express the way I feel or try to convay a message that was presented in the anime. NO creator should do things and think they deserve recognizition because of it. You cant force a person to like or hate something and I agree a lot of the time it is unfair when people give bad ratings. I would look at it this way it was on top for a little while, and that should be good enough.

Amen! I think a lot of editors need to learn this...

Hell Gene, I remember you starting up a thread about "What makes a great AMV creator" or something...you obviously have your eyes on the wrong thing in your AMVs if something like reviews and fame mean something. I am like MAS, I create AMVs because I want re-create the vision that is in my head...see how accurate I can make it to what I see (based on the music/flow). If people happen to like it...nice...if not at least I am happy...both in the creation and the results.

[BishounenStalker]

Lipsync. Again, very easy to match mouth movements with words. If you have a paint program and an hour, you can do mouth-matching very easily. But does the body language of the character go with the words and the mouth movements? Does it make sense given the content of the scene (character placement, additional characters, lighting, facial expression, colorization, and so forth)?

Agreed...to a point. The only thing I'll dispute is that you don't even need a paint program in most cases. The secret is getting the mouth to close JUST before the syllable ends. And the trick to extending mouth movements to fit is to repeat the correct clips to drag the movement out to the right time without slowing down your footage. Really, it isn't hard, unless the person's speaking really fast. And it starts to get VERY tricky when dealing with a character's body movements while they're speaking, or a zoomed scene of someone talking (I just finished a doozy of a lipsynch video, my first attempt at it).

But yeah, mouth-matching isn't difficult. It's picking the PERFECT clip that conveys the emotion in the line you're lipsynching to. Especially when you're limited in footage because the damn distributor is taking their sweet old time getting the series out on domestic DVD. Using downloaded footage IS a feaux pas, but sometimes, you just don't have a choice >.< But that's another rant....

Anyway, I think it's kinda sad that this guy is bitching about getting consistently bad reviews. When you're getting the same complaints from different sources, it usually means there IS something wrong with your work. First thing I learned in my fiction-writing writing workshop class a few semesters ago, but it can easily apply to AMVs. If different people are telling you there's an area of the video that needs work, that usually means it does. The best way to find your weak points is to go through your opinions and find a pattern to the responses.

[mexicanjunior]

I am like MAS, I create AMVs because I want re-create the vision that is in my head...see how accurate I can make it to what I see (based on the music/flow). If people happen to like it...nice...if not at least I am happy...both in the creation and the results.

I make videos because sometimes normal pr0n just isn't enough.

[MAS PRODUCTIONS]

I am like MAS, I create AMVs because I want re-create the vision that is in my head...see how accurate I can make it to what I see (based on the music/flow). If people happen to like it...nice...if not at least I am happy...both in the creation and the results.

I make videos because sometimes normal pr0n just isn't enough.

Not to get off topic but I really need to download "moneyshot"

[Nappy]

Anyway, I think it's kinda sad that this guy is bitching about getting consistently bad reviews.

I thought it was just about 1 bad review o_o (which his "fans" of similar names to his should counter) And this was discussed before but for ever certain amount of reviews the 1 of the highest and lowest are dropped from the total before averaging. So this low score you talk about (which probably isn't that bad) even it was all 1s which I doubt, it would be dropped as well as some certain ops >_> that gave you mostly/all 10s.

Anyways stop caring so much, as I said before a vid deserving to be on the topof the op list will take more than a single op to send its rank to such a "low on the 10% list" (that many aren't even on) Stop whining, or change your name to ShinjiIkari21122 :P