Can action have any originality?

[outlawed]

I heard transformers 2 did pretty well with action fans despite being a completely unoriginal action movie.

Reference note: Fan + Anime + Music = AMV.

I think originality can exist but if you are looking for originality to redefine a construct that people intend to follow at its core to satisfy themselves or a particular audience you aren't going to get it. What I think can be original is clever use of music and footage. How rare is it even with all the action videos we have these days to actually see a top grade one made with Baroque or Classical era music? What about using African tribal drum rhythms? Editors don't necessarily need to redefine a core concept to showcase their own style.

[Zarxrax]

Would "Soul of an Angel" be classified as action? I think that was a highly original video.
I think Jbone did a number of original action videos. He's just weird like that.
Then we have Kevin Caldwell's Engel, one of the classic action videos that really broke a lot of new ground.

[JudgeHolden]

Let us be honest ... can't this really be said about any genre of AMV? I mean, many drama and comedy videos I see are not very original in concept and follow a basic formula. However, they are still good videos. So, I would harken back to what Julian said, that the editing is more important than how original the concept is.

[8bit_samurai]

If you're looking for action videos that doesn't focus heavily on beat sync, than you most like come across (but not limited to) action videos that rely on lyric sync or videos with inappropriate sources. When it comes to lyric based action videos, I would assume you'll most like run into an action video with comedic undertones like Real Soviet Damage (if it's lyric synced, I never really paid attention to them), or action videos with drama undertones, like the over 9000 linkinballz vids. Unless it's like Welcome to Neo Tokyo, most inappropriate source action vids would most likely be parody vids that rely on beat sync.

I myself don't necessarily think that original action videos = action videos that aren't primarily focused on beat sync. Of course that doesn't mean there aren't original action videos that aren't focused on beat sync, and vice versa (though it would probably be harder to find them).

[godix]

I don't think we have a common category for it [Anthem] aside from 'experimental' - but that just doesn't seem right because this type of thing is more common to see than that.

AKROSS has a psychedelic category for vids like this. Which isn't exactly the phrase I'd use to describe em, but there ya go.

Let us be honest ... can't this really be said about any genre of AMV? I mean, many drama and comedy videos I see are not very original in concept and follow a basic formula. However, they are still good videos. So, I would harken back to what Julian said, that the editing is more important than how original the concept is.

For every other genre, I occasionally see something new. Not all the time of course, and they don't all immediately become the new AMV meme, but usually at least once a year there's a romance, drama, comedy, etc. that just comes off as unique and new. Action? Not so much, although a couple examples have been posted.

I myself don't necessarily think that original action videos = action videos that aren't primarily focused on beat sync. Of course that doesn't mean there aren't original action videos that aren't focused on beat sync, and vice versa (though it would probably be harder to find them).

No, of course not. Someone else mentioned Naruto's Technique Beat and I mentioned Decoy in the OP. He did beat sync, but in such a way that it was original when he was active. And there are ways to beat sync that haven't been used much. I'd be quite happy to see unique and original use of beat sync. But still, there's more to amvs than matching the beat. Well, at least in genres other than action there is.

[dj_ultima_the_great]

I know that I have seen this idea before, but I'm going to go ahead and post something recent. This is the original version, since I think it works the concept better than the extended version that he just released.



It's one thing to sync to the beat. It's entirely different to work two sources together like this fairly seamlessly, and it's in the motion of the animation that the real "action" of this action video comes out. I don't typically keep action videos, nor do I keep ones that use a lot of anime I don't know, but I kept this one because it was original to me.

Generally speaking, though, I agree. Original action videos are harder than hell to find, and above all other genres, it's tough to create an original idea.


- Jen

[Knowname]

I LOVE the ones that stop and start on the same note. That way, if you have it on repeat you never know when it's over until you've memorized a certain scene

^^obnoxiousness, THAT is the true meaning of originality!

[Knowname]

Let's assume Originality just means something new. Then in order to make an original action video, you can introduce new conflict.

see that'a where many ppl go wrong, originality doesn't mean something that differs from the original! If so your answer would fluctuate GREATLY over time. Say Elvis. Was he original with his rock and roll hogwash? Taking the same definition of originality, is he still 'original' now?? Is he even 'original' as soon as the next person to rock was made? The last two answers are 'no' when, when first asked the answer was 'yes'?? What kind of coccamamee question is that?! It's not, the whole method is WRONG! The only way you can get a consistant answer on what is original is if something is done RIGHT! Extra points if it's new AND effective. But if it's RIGHT you get 70% of the credit!

[Knowname]

The reason Action, Drama, and Comedy are at the top is because I believe them to be the true top genres from which other genres are formed. I've also been playing the Android game Alchemy an awful lot and the idea of adding stuff in to create other stuff is appealing to me from a teaching point of view.

I made a dramedy... it actually should be considered a romance, actually all romances are dramadys. Ala romantic comedy movies. I don't think a romantic movie outside of Casablanca could survive nowadays.

[MycathatesyouAMV]

If your'e including concept and storyline, I would def. included WOTB, Spoil, Let's just be Super Cute Girls, and some others.