Copyright

[Knowname]

As for the org, I'm sure we've been noticed by now... A search for "AMV" in google has us at the top, even "anime music video". It's not very hard to find us really. So the question is, why haven't they done anything?

nobody ever told you not to poke the alligator nest??

[Kanti13]

I believe people who uploaded videos with those music bands before could get a local copy of it, but wouldn't be announced publically to other people. I doubt you can still upload videos with that music, though.

And yeah, it seems only those bands sent a warning for their music instead of making it more kind of a public issue, which could mean a bigger problem for the org. The org goes unnoticed for most music bands like CrackTheSky says (actual way to dl videos might make it harder for them to track it)

After that episode all my Evanescence videos' links were disabled.
Doesn't matter when you uploaded. You can't use those bands.
And if I remember correctly, the problem was that some stupid fan wrote the bands asking if they made the videos on this site or something along those lines and that's how it was noticed. Not something that happens often.

[pan_dbgt01]

LOL People are pretty dumb sometimes. Like those pesky AMV stealers out there.

[Arigatomina]

I think it's based on the amount of footage you use.

It's not. When they delete the video for the anime, it's because you listed that anime in your description. I had a fan-animated vid up where there was no anime footage, just fanart, and the first thing they did was disable it because I had "Inuyasha" in the vid description. They never checked to see if there was any actual anime footage in the vid or they would have realized there was none. I had a second copy of that vid uploaded to the tube, my first attempt where only half the vid got uploaded. It wasn't deleted during the Inuyasha sweep because I didn't mention the sources in the vid description. [It did get the audio disabled later for using Evanescence, though. Sigh... ]

I've had a lot of vids uploaded to the tube. The only times I've ever seen one get the anime disabled is when the name of the anime was listed in the vid description or title. They catch this stuff by searching for words/names. As far as I know they don't have a way to "bug" anime footage the way they do with songs.

[HalOfBorg]

I just re-uploaded my "Sub Ruler" video to youtube, with nothing of the anime in the title or anywhere, and almost instantly got an email saying:

Your video, AMV - Sub Ruler: Whale Wars - by HalOfBorg, may have content that is owned or licensed by BandaiChannel.

[Bauzi]

The companies are just too lazy.
Youtube has tools that automatically find infringing material for the companies, so the companies dont have to actually do anything except sit on their butts and push a button, and its gone.
Here, they might have to actually send a letter or something.

I think they would have to invest time, ressources and money to sue as and they won't get it back. This is a non profit site. There isn't a lot money to get.

In case of YouTube you have a huge company with a huge income to sue. You could get millions.

What I hate the most is the fascism and censorship in all these YouTube copyright enforecements. I live in Austria and why the hell can't I just watch some video. They are not avaible in my country? Well f**** you too assholes! What's up with this shit?

[Arigatomina]

I just re-uploaded my "Sub Ruler" video to youtube, with nothing of the anime in the title or anywhere, and almost instantly got an email saying:

Your video, AMV - Sub Ruler: Whale Wars - by HalOfBorg, may have content that is owned or licensed by BandaiChannel.

Why did you have to reupload it? If they've already taken the video down once, then maybe they have the title on a blacklist. Or they may have you on that list. Their word searches probably aren't intelligent enough to read 'amv' and 'sub' in a title and assume it's Blue Submarine footage.

Or I'm just plain wrong because times and technology has changed. ;p I don't know what new tricks are being used these days. Someone may have devised a way to slip an identifying bug into dvd footage, or attach it to the fansubs and raws people use in their amvs. With all the decryption, encoding and conversion that goes into prepping video footage, I just assume it would be harder to design a bug that would still be intact by the time the footage is chopped up, encoded yet again, and uploaded to the tube. Even if something like that does exist, the tube probably only uses it for a few series. There are way too many amvs and full anime episodes that remain untouched over there for it to be a widespread practice.

[Nya-chan Production]

Or I'm just plain wrong because times and technology has changed. ;p I don't know what new tricks are being used these days. Someone may have devised a way to slip an identifying bug into dvd footage, or attach it to the fansubs and raws people use in their amvs. With all the decryption, encoding and conversion that goes into prepping video footage, I just assume it would be harder to design a bug that would still be intact by the time the footage is chopped up, encoded yet again, and uploaded to the tube. Even if something like that does exist, the tube probably only uses it for a few series. There are way too many amvs and full anime episodes that remain untouched over there for it to be a widespread practice.

Believe me, anime encoders would notice ;x

More probably the just follow the people who have some record already. Also some kind of pattern match, maybe for video, surely for audio.

[Micio2]

...what makes the ORG free from copyright infringement laws?

Besides fact that no one has 007 license, it is a fact that exists people like me, who purchased licensed full series of anime and music CDs, because I knew of them thanks to AMV. Wanna laugh? I purchased Evanescence CDs because I first listen to them in some AMV, and I liked their music. Same happened with Capt. Tylor anime, I liked it and purchased the dvds then. Same thing with lots of other music and anime then. People like me are a market, and AMV may be seen as some free marketing for anime or music bands.

I read about another thread about how to set the Org more noticed, I think that drawing too much 'attention' to us may be not so a good idea. What Org needs, imho, is being recognized as the place where the amv makers can get home, and maybe also a place where to found a better quality version of the video you like. I disagree on making video upload more easy than is now on site. As is, it is simple enough, even it needs actions by the user who wants it. Again, imho, I think Org can be seen as a better place to find things you already know you want to find, but not to see casual amv by fast searches, as utubb.

[Kawatta-kun]

What Org needs, imho, is being recognized as the place where the amv makers can get home, and maybe also a place where to found a better quality version of the video you like. I disagree on making video upload more easy than is now on site. As is, it is simple enough, even it needs actions by the user who wants it. Again, imho, I think Org can be seen as a better place to find things you already know you want to find, but not to see casual amv by fast searches, as utubb.