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Re: Switchback/Dying Will = Fanime Best Action/3rd place Drama

Post by Inan » Wed May 27, 2009 1:12 pm

kaze, remember you can't please everyone. I thought the video was very enjoyable, i kind of get what they say about the video not capturing the "feel" of the song but they should go a bit more in depth rather than leaving shallow ass comments like the ones above. im pretty much referring to elcalavero with his obnoxious way of typing.

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Re: Switchback/Dying Will = Fanime Best Action/3rd place Drama

Post by Ikore » Wed May 27, 2009 2:58 pm

Radical_Yue wrote:Also, sorry, I basically agree with Niotex about the Switchback video. Was pretty mediocre...Nothing new to see.
I guess that such a criteria is lame.

how you dare to say her work is "mediocre"?, where's your base for such an argument? are you saying, hey! you have donde this sooo many times before that you are totally trap in this concept... or it's me and "getting the feeling" is put a lot of effect that hit every single beat?, because if its just plain edition, that makes it "mediocre", the video is not flawless, it have dead points and other stuff to work (but she manage to get back to the action), if you are gonna give such a comments, put your cards on the tables and be constructive. :book:

btw Kaze keep it up!, do what you want, and do this because you love it!
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Re: Switchback/Dying Will = Fanime Best Action/3rd place Drama

Post by Hagaren Viper » Wed May 27, 2009 4:29 pm

You know, there are two vids here, people >>

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Re: Switchback/Dying Will = Fanime Best Action/3rd place Drama

Post by Rider4Z » Wed May 27, 2009 4:48 pm

Ikore wrote:btw Kaze keep it up!, do what you want, and do this because you love it!
x2 :up:

yeah it's okay to not like a vid, but just slanderizing without giving any CONSTRUCTIVE advice just comes off like you're being a bully. granted some of you may still be in the "bully" stage of life, it's indecent and time to grow up.

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Re: Switchback/Dying Will = Fanime Best Action/3rd place Drama

Post by Niotex » Wed May 27, 2009 7:29 pm

elcalavero wrote:If my first video was not a big "FUCK YOU" to you then I dont know what was.
Baww~
Why dont you use this audio source to come out of retirement and show me [HOW ITS DONE]
I'm obligated to do so? Not to mention since when am I retired?

I'm pretty sure we can all agree that elcalavero is not contributing to this discussion in any way, shape or form. And thus should be excluded from this little pool party we got going on here.
Rider4Z wrote:can i ask why you're continuing to reply to this thread at all?
Ofcourse you may
you've made your opinion very clear and you're very insistant on have the right to say so, yet you're completely repelling anyone else who says otherwise or differently. do we not have the right to disagree? would that not be our opinions?
I have indeed made my opinion very clear. And I indeed am very insistent on exercising my right to do so. But I am strictly repelling anyone else his suggestions or contribution that are down right retarded. However you still have the your own right to exercise.
your rude and slanderizing comments are not needed or wanted anymore i'm sure by anyone, expecially Kaze. and you're continuing to post here is only making you look more and more like you're trying to force everyone to oblige to your opinion.
My "slanderizing" comments are strictly for those whom are asking for them.
it's obnoxious to keep replying to people who are trying to be constructive in their criticism and slanderizing them for their respectful words.
I do not see how circle jerking is constructively criticizing.
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Kazemon15 wrote:I do appreciate everyone's opinion. But I really don't understand how I missed the "feeling" of the song. I edited it how I felt it should be edited. I am all about simple editing and internal syncing, that's how I edit. I am also not a very effecty person.
Which is perfectly fine as I do not expect you to be so.
Can anyone care to elaborate just what exactly is the song's "feeling"? Whether it's lyric sync, beat sync, flow or all of these, I think I did a pretty good job for the most part in all of those aspects. I try my hardest to follow these aspects in the best way I can, despite my disability. My disability is...I can barely hear the song at all due to being almost deaf. So I would like to read what everyone's point is about the song's "feeling." If I can know that, then I can try to put it into my next amv. I am still practicing, after all.
Listing what I feel personally to this song would defeat the purpose of having it being your video. The thing that I'm getting at is that while it will be impossible for you to capture what others interperate from the music. You still need to have a firm grasp of the music yourself. Thus showing off your own personal "feeling". Whatever people are saying about color palettes etc is complete bullshit as it only reflects on what they feel would fit. Now to come back to the initial discussion. The reason I don't like this video is because it doesn't have character. It doesn't have anything unique about it. And you're not going to tell me that your video is supposed to be another dime a dozen video. You edited this too close to the book, thus your own personalty was complete lost. Texture, flavor, character and personality are all the same thing here.

So again me telling you what to do would only push my own interpretation on you. In which case it would no longer be your own video. So for your next video I'd suggest you figure out what flavor, texture or w/e you want to convey to the viewer.
Rider4Z wrote:yeah it's okay to not like a vid, but just slanderizing without giving any CONSTRUCTIVE advice just comes off like you're being a bully. granted some of you may still be in the "bully" stage of life, it's indecent and time to grow up.
If people were actually out to bully. Then I am fairly sure that things would be somewhat different. A lot more garbage dumpsters involved etc. Also you do realize that you specifically are provoking a lot of this. You seem to have the tendency to speak for Kazemon rather then to let her own voice be heard. Thus unlike Kazemon you are quite the obnoxious child =|
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Re: Switchback/Dying Will = Fanime Best Action/3rd place Drama

Post by Ikore » Wed May 27, 2009 7:38 pm

:( I was not quoted, sniff!
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Re: Switchback/Dying Will = Fanime Best Action/3rd place Drama

Post by LittleAtari » Wed May 27, 2009 8:11 pm

Niotex wrote: Listing what I feel personally to this song would defeat the purpose of having it being your video. The thing that I'm getting at is that while it will be impossible for you to capture what others interperate from the music. You still need to have a firm grasp of the music yourself. Thus showing off your own personal "feeling". Whatever people are saying about color palettes etc is complete bullshit as it only reflects on what they feel would fit. Now to come back to the initial discussion. The reason I don't like this video is because it doesn't have character. It doesn't have anything unique about it. And you're not going to tell me that your video is supposed to be another dime a dozen video. You edited this too close to the book, thus your own personalty was complete lost. Texture, flavor, character and personality are all the same thing here.

So again me telling you what to do would only push my own interpretation on you. In which case it would no longer be your own video. So for your next video I'd suggest you figure out what flavor, texture or w/e you want to convey to the viewer.
This perhaps is the most useful thing said in this thread. I felt the need to point it for fear that it may get lost in all the garbage stated here.

I would like to ask, since when is someone not allowed to just say that they dont like an AMV? They dont always have to provide constructive criticism. That's a bonus. Just putting it plainly that you dont like a video is not flaming. You get to have that opinion and express it, regardless if you want to give any constructive criticism or not. If someone isnt allowed to just say they don't like a video, we might as well become the Tube and just start posting in every announcement thread, "OMG BEST VIDEO EVAH!!! 5/5 *favs*"

What pisses me off about this thread is that I know that these are the two best AMVs that Kazemon has ever made, but any type of useful feedback that she could get in this thread was lost in the stupid bickering.

So I'd just like to say thank you guys for getting this thread to 4 pages from useless arguments going back and forth that really gave little to no benefit to Kazemon. Be it that you wanted to defend a friend, yourself, or an opinion, this thread is ridiculous.

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Re: Switchback/Dying Will = Fanime Best Action/3rd place Drama

Post by Ijexis » Wed May 27, 2009 8:43 pm

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can't believe I sat down and read 4 pages of that :?
well i'll download both AMVs since I'm bored.

Edit:
Okay, I'm going to post as I'm watching Switchback so these thoughts don't leave my head. Not a big fan of Celldweller but the vid started off intriguing enough but about a minute in I started to get a tad bit bored. Just started to feel bland and repetitive. However that being said, around 3:04-3:09, where I thought "wow...this segment just doesn't seem to fit right and is coming off as stale" it sort of did a 180 around 3:10 and became a tad bit more interesting, I actually perked up took my chin off my hands and started paying attention. But then about 30 secs passed and i started to get a tad bit bored again, my mind even started to drift to other thoughts about certain armless weird girls. Overall, it wasn't a bad vid, hell I'd go so far to say it was pretty decent but it just wasn't a "FUCK YEA MOTHERFUCKER!"-type of vid that'd make me cream myself just by it entering my thoughts. Maybe it's just not my thing or how the audio kept saying "Switchback" which started to get on my nerves to no end. But I can see you at least put effort into the vid and I'll give you props for that.

Alright, watching Dying Will. Don't really know what's going on here, only thought that comes to mind is "why did that guy just bite his arm?" Well at least you started to have a sense of direction once the lyrics started but then I realized you seemed to start focusing on the lyrics a tad bit too much. "Oh I get it, 'you take the breath right out of me' and he gets punched in the stomach, lawl" But i'll say this, you know how to pick some damn cool fight scenes, really makes me want to see this anime now. 3:28-3:29, dunno...the syncing to the beat sort of threw off the mood at that particular scene, maybe it would have been better to cut out those beats and fade to the end of the song with just the coffin, don't be afraid to cut your audio if it doesn't work for you. On a final note 2:05-2:43 was pretty badass though, i had that part on loop for a while...damn I need to get this anime...

Alas, you can take all this with a grain of salt, these are just my personal views...
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Re: Switchback/Dying Will = Fanime Best Action/3rd place Drama

Post by Koopiskeva » Wed May 27, 2009 9:08 pm

Niotex wrote:This video needs comic sans.
That's pretty much all he was saying.

Also, the video was pretty bland for such an intense song. But as long as you like what you made, then don't let us get you down.

PS - I don't actually like the song, and Celdweller sucks. Take that Mitch, and your horrible taste in music.

PSS - Celdweller doesn't actually suck, but I'm not a fan of this song in particular.
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Re: Switchback/Dying Will = Fanime Best Action/3rd place Drama

Post by Kazemon15 » Wed May 27, 2009 9:59 pm

I expected not everyone to like Switchback. Heck, not even I like some parts on it and feel I *could* have done it alot better, but the song too, was getting on my nerves. I spent a month trying to fix and kept redo the last minute of the song and I still couldnt get it right. <_<

Thank you, everyone for comments and at least checking them out.

XD Truth be told, when the bickering started, I was afraid to even post here in fears that I might have gotten attacked, but you're all cool people. =3

Switchback was my very first *intense* action video. I plan to do more action in the future, but nothing as intense as that song. It was fun to edit to, and I believe I did go a little overboard and it did get a bit repeative.

But thanks again, everyone. :)

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