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Footage Limitations...

Post by devilmaykickass » Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:40 am

(Note: This is not an intent to bash, demean, or lessen the quality of anyone as an editor or their videos...)

Lately, I've been wanting to do a few videos, but for a certain (most people will probably say wrong) reason, I've not been able to motivate myself to do it. What is this reason? Limited footage from specific sources...

Particularly, I have Final Fantasy videos in mind. Is there a point where we'll have to stop making FF videos because we keep seeing that same footage over and over and over? This discourages me from making another Final Fantasy video. The same goes for Voices of a Distant Star...the shortness of the anime just makes the footage not vary a whole lot from video to video...

So I was just wondering how others felt about this...do you think there are some sources that just have too little footage to any longer do anything original with? Or is there always room for originality even when the same footage has been used a million times?

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Post by Orwell » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:05 am

I'd say there's a limit when you are only using the footage as it comes to you. When you take the footage as just a base, and do a new/rarely used manipulation to it, you have the potential to make it original. It might turn out similar to a M@D, but maybe take only the specific thing you want out of a frame/clip, and find a way to merge with another to create something new. That's the only thing that I'm seeing that is original in terms of footage. You can still have an original AMV with a previously unused audio track before, but you were just talking about footage.

It's time to think outside the pre-processed frame and create a original concept with the source as a base for your goal.

Or maybe I'm wrong and my physics homework is getting to me.
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Post by Pie Row Maniac » Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:18 pm

It depends on if you're sick of seeing it to the point that you don't even want to edit it. If not, then have at it. Showing it to other people is where it gets sticky, yet in a way it's fairly simple. Showing it to a person who has seen a lot of videos to that anime will most likely not want to see it. Those who haven't will welcome the idea of watching it.

Note that what I'm saying is very generalized :P
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Post by BasharOfTheAges » Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:07 pm

It all opens up once you try to take minute elements from a series and either combine them with other minute elements from the same series or major elements from another (or any X combinations of Y series with Z% level of relavance).
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Post by staces » Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:51 pm

Half of the vids for animes that have over 100 episodes end up all looking the same, for the love of God when will the AMVs made from an hour or less of footage end?! Seriously, I rarely download AMVs made from a single movie anymore (unless it's one that no ones really used before) because they all have the same footage, even the good ones. =/ So, if you want to make an AMV for one of those sources, then go ahead and do it for personal enjoyment, but don't expect a good originality score.
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Post by godix » Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:24 pm

There's far more to originality than the footage. For example, there are tons of Grave of the Firefly AMVs. I only know of *ONE* that is a happy upbeat AMV. I'd give it high originality even though I've seen every scene of it in other amvs before.

If you can figure out how to use FF or any other overly done footage in a new way go for it.
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Post by JCD » Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:27 am

The answer is pretty easy, use new anime which has been rarely used :P

I personally agree, I sometimes get sick seeing the same scenes in other videos being used over and over in whatever context. An AMV has a much higher enjoyment value for me if it uses footage I haven't seen a bit from before. Exceptions prove the rule, of course ;)

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Post by Heero_Yuy84 » Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:48 am

JCD wrote:The answer is pretty easy, use new anime which has been rarely used :P

I personally agree, I sometimes get sick seeing the same scenes in other videos being used over and over in whatever context. An AMV has a much higher enjoyment value for me if it uses footage I haven't seen a bit from before. Exceptions prove the rule, of course ;)
For that matter, doesn't even have to be new stuff...there's a massive cache of older titles with little to no video usage thusfar...
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