Power To The Z

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Re: Power To The Z

Postby LittleAtari » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:30 pm

Code wrote:Wait, since when are fades a bad choice in editing? :|

Fades themselves are not a bad. It's how you use the fades. There are a lot of editors who most of their transitions are fades. Usually, when this is done, it actually makes the editing weaker without the editor realizing it.

Hard cuts come off as a lot more powerful because you're cutting directly from one shot to the next. When you think about it, hard cuts are more traditional. Movies, music videos, etc, mostly use hard cuts.

Fades come off as more organic and softer because you're essentially getting a preview of the next shot, making your video somewhat predictable. Because of this softness that fades give, they can be used more often in slower videos, usually a romance or drama. Still, you shouldn't make it your made transition in those types of videos because you may end up undermining any build up that a hard cut can help you make. Sometimes, we need a quick switch to the next scene.

In the end, a fade is an overlay with an opacity change. It really isnt all that amusing to see two shots at the same time on top of each a lot. When used improperly, fades can make your video predictable and make scenes have less of an impact.

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SupaKaream wrote:Video was good, I found the ending abrupt.


It's a trailer, It's kinda of meant to be abrupt.

For an action/dramatic trailer such as this, it is good to have a sudden ending. The thing is, you need to build up to it and make it so that the audience knows that this is the end of the trailer. Remember, regardless of wanting a hard cut ending, your trailer should still have a type of conclusion. It may have helped if you put the title of your video or the movie at the end on its own title card like a regular trailer would have.
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Re: Power To The Z

Postby Kevmaster » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:32 pm

HARD CUTS ARE FUCKING ANNOYING AND HURT MY EYES I HATE THEM SO FUCK U
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Re: Power To The Z

Postby Enigma » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:45 pm

Kevmaster wrote:HARD CUTS ARE FUCKING ANNOYING AND HURT MY EYES I HATE THEM SO FUCK U


Pussy.

LA@ Thanks for the input :) .
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Re: Power To The Z

Postby Fall_Child42 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:53 pm

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Re: Power To The Z

Postby Enigma » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:57 pm

Cap'n Toddenfreude wrote:WORDS OF WISDOM


Guide right thar.
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Re: Power To The Z

Postby Bauzi » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:48 pm

Rezzz way to explain his opinion is horrible. If it comes down to it, he is right: You won't see a trailer from the industry with so many fades.

But than again! This video fails on so many levels for a trailer:
What? No Title, no credits, no actor names, no date of release, no staff names, no mpaa notice...

So let's leave it by that and think of it as an amv!

I like it. It's always pleasent to see new and good dbz videos. The only thing that I really have to complain about it is the ending. It's abrupt, it's somehow synced to somehting :| and well it's too aprupt. I would have needed something slow at the end. I don't know... like Broly standing on a hill breathing slowly or the title for the fictive movie. Something that makes the video fade out at the end.

4/5 :up: LIKES

Crossfades get anoying pretty fast if they are used all the time to sync random shit. I didn't felt this way with this video. In my opinion Niwa's IC (or somebody else's videos from those IC, I don't remember to good) videos on YT from a few years ago. Sry to call you out Fred :sweat:
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Re: Power To The Z

Postby CodeZTM » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:08 pm

Atari, that explanation was actually pretty good. :book:

[Although I still don't like hard cuts except in action vids. |:> ]
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Re: Power To The Z

Postby LittleAtari » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:27 pm

Code wrote:Atari, that explanation was actually pretty good. :book:

[Although I still don't like hard cuts except in action vids. |:> ]

Honestly, if you're used to fades, it could be hard to get into, but you should give it a try. There are a lot of times where a hard cut will do you better than a fade, but you're just so used to using fades that you either forget about the hard cut or it may just end up looking weird to you at first. Also, avoiding cross fades forces you to look for more creative ways making one scene flow into the next. You may end up matching up different things from both scenes, such as the motion or color.

Going back and watching the video, in some parts the fades did help make things more dramatic. In others, it just made things visually overwhelming.

0:13 - Weak
0:22 - Tasteful
0:23-0:24 - Dramatic
0:27-0:31 - Visually overwhelming, the time you take to fade things forces you to cut through multiple scenes too quick
0:32 - Softened the impact of the next scene
0:33-0:38 - Worst cross fades in video. Hard cuts here would've built a lot more tension.
Rest of video - Most of the fades were dramatic. However, a few of them would've been better as hard cuts.

Looking at the ending now. Simply a title card at the end of the video would've given you the ending that you wanted really :P

A little bit of frame blending, watch for disabling re-sample/frame blending next time.

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Bauzi wrote:But than again! This video fails on so many levels for a trailer:
What? No Title, no credits, no actor names, no date of release, no staff names, no mpaa notice...

So let's leave it by that and think of it as an amv!


A trailer really doesnt need most of those. At minimum, it needs a Title card.
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Re: Power To The Z

Postby Rider4Z » Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:43 pm

why was i not emailed, pmed, and texted about this?? :shock: :shock: what's wrong with you people!! :nono:

grrr Rider approves :up: 4/5 i liked the voice overs you threw in there. they fit well.

i have 3 small gripes then i'll get back to the good stuff: i think the aspect ratio was slightly off, lip sync could use a little work, and the ending felt unsatisfying in that it left me no desire to go watch (for the hundreth time). i'm surprised you chose to give away the ending. the point of a trailer is to encourage viewers to want to go see the movie :/

other than that i give you props for effort and sync. very smooth and a lot more rare footage. i didn't recognize several scenes at all :mrgreen: video quality was very sweet |:> i like it
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Re: Power To The Z

Postby CastielTheFallen » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:58 pm

Decent, but the trailer audio is random as fuck...
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Re: Power To The Z

Postby LeapofFate » Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:03 am

It might not be the real Rrezz posting since he does give his password and shit out, but I don't care.

The video was decent. Make longer videos. |:
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Re: Power To The Z

Postby Enigma » Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:24 pm

LeapofFate wrote:It might not be the real Rrezz posting since he does give his password and shit out, but I don't care.

The video was decent. Make longer videos. |:


In due time, In due time :O
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Re: Power To The Z

Postby Eion » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:08 pm

/gets
I liked it :D
nice work soup :up: 4/5
oh and...
Enigma wrote:
SupaKaream wrote:Video was good, I found the ending abrupt.


It's a trailer, It's kinda of meant to be abrupt.

I lol'd
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Re: Power To The Z

Postby Diegao » Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:24 pm

Stop flamming, please |:
There are personal messages for this.
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Re: Power To The Z

Postby Enigma » Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:25 pm

diegao94 wrote:Stop flamming, please |:
There are personal messages for this.


Psh, Its a DBZ video it's gonna be filled with flamming,drama etc anyway |:
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