AMV panels

Douggie · Post by **Douggie** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:18 pm

Here in Holland, there's not much of AMV panels. I remember back in 2006, Niotex, together with JCD, gave a panel (a workshop) about how to create an AMV with Premiere Pro and AVS (I think).

And that's probably the only panel given in history of AMV panels in Holland....

So, curious as I am, what are the AMV panels like in the States, Canada, Finland, wherever? What topics get covered? Are there many participants? Do you really learn anything from them? Are they entertaining? Any memorable ones you like to mention?

etc..

Tell me!

CrackTheSky · Post by **CrackTheSky** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:06 pm

From my experience, AMV panels mostly consist of editors going up and showing audiences their videos, and sometimes other people's videos. Koop and AtomX, for example, have a panel at AWA and ACen in which they show ten videos (by other people) they feel deserve more exposure than they've gotten. Nessephanie, Ileia, Moonie and peropero have a panel where they show their favorite videos made by female editors.

There are other AMV-related panels that do other things, too. I know at this year's ACen there was a panel similar to the one you mentioned, and ZephyrStar did a panel about 3D design, and he worked AMVs into it.

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:55 pm

I'll probably be flamed for this, but in my experience most 'panels' aren't useful to the audience and are just an editor (or group of editors) showing (mostly) their own videos. It's more of a circle jerk then a panel per se.

With that said, I have been to a number of panels where the focus is on the AUDIENCE and what THEY WANT, but they're few and far between. I *try* to run a similar panel with very few videos actually shown, but well...I'm not in the audience so for all I know, they're also failures.

*puts on flameproof suit*

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:28 pm

I did forget to add that obviously a 'focus' panel or something like the AWA spotlight panels will of course have lots of video shown. I wanted to clarify I mainly meant something like a 'creation' or 'workshop' type panel where the audience is primarily *not* AMV editors and thus are there to learn and ask questions.

leahzero · Post by **leahzero** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:48 pm

CrackTheSky wrote:Nessephanie, Ileia, Moonie and peropero have a panel where they show their favorite videos made by female editors.

...

ZephyrStar did a panel about 3D design, and he worked AMVs into it.

Any footage of these panels available?

Sukunai · Post by **Sukunai** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:58 pm

I've been to a few panels for a few subjects at a few of the Anime North shows (Toronto Canada).

I find you can learn a few things at them, but it usually means sitting for an hour, to learn a few minutes of "hmm that's interesting" while wading through most of an hour's worth of "god is this boring".

I think if I wanted to actually learn anything about AMVs, I'd settle for sitting at my computer reading the right threads here at the org.

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:35 pm

There are only two types of panels.

Ones that show King pwolf's videos and ones that don't.

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:20 pm

The group i'm in at AB have been running panels for years there - we've taken to filling computers with various project files that exhibit a range of techniques you'd easily be able to show to a group of relative novices without making their heads explode and structuring a loose framework around some of them just in case you don't get enough questions. We pad the instruction with videos that we're familiar enough with (ours or those with high technical merit that we can explain) to spur the audience questions along. It usually ends up being the same general questions asked - syncing and masking make up about 80% or more of them. Refining this approach takes some time and effort and the end result becomes kinda boring and predictable, but it's not really for those in-the-know. I've been toying with the idea of more involved panels, but after a point an entire programming track of AMV-related things draws the ire and drama of the cosplay folks.

YouTube · Post by **Kionon** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:26 pm

When I run panels, I usually run beginner panels. These focus on the basics, as well as current trends. I also go over the different types of software, and pay special attention to software that is free, close to free, or heavily discounted. I do introduce the basics involved in premiere and final cut, and show how they are comparatively much better, although not absolutely necessary. I usually try to have other editors on the panel, especially those that use a mac full time, or those that use magix or vegas, which I have no experience with.

I was working with Wagner to set up a workshop/panel for beginners at AWA in the VATroom, but then I moved to Japan, so that's out.

Pwolf · Post by **Pwolf** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:24 pm

Castor Troy wrote:There are only two types of panels.

Ones that show King pwolf's videos and ones that don't.

I hate you

Pwolf