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Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:42 pm

Kitsuner wrote:godix?

My religious upbringing can best be summarized as "vaguely secular Reform Jew". This lasted until about fourteen or fifteen, when I began to give it serious thought. I found myself repulsed by the blind faith, mysticism, fatalism, and general bullshit I saw all around. When I found that I often knew more of Christian theology than most Christians I talked to... well, let's just say that such didn't speak too highly of such organized religions. The introduction of formal logic into my life only sped this process along.

The net result is that I've wound up a nontheist (negative atheist, soft atheist, whatever you want to call it). I do not believe in a god. This is not the affirmative belief in the lack of a god, but rather that I lack the god-belief.

wurpess · Post by **wurpess** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:05 pm

I'm with Oto on this one. I believe there's something out there. I believe in the principles. I'm just not into organized religion. I feel when you get that many people around a belief, egos will start flaring and then you start to lose sight of why excatly you're there. Which is what has kinda happened. And the over-zealous religious types that try to shove their religion down you throat convinced that their way is the right way. Well, how do you know? Of course, being schizo with apocolyptical voices giving you odd ideas and alternate versions of creation don't really help either. lol. But anyhow. I feel that whatever you believe in, if it gets you through and doesn't hurt anyone, is correct. Because it does the job that religion is supposed to.

SilversLightning · Post by **SilversLightning** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:55 pm

wurpess wrote:I'm with Oto on this one. I believe there's something out there. I believe in the principles. I'm just not into organized religion. I feel when you get that many people around a belief, egos will start flaring and then you start to lose sight of why excatly you're there. Which is what has kinda happened. And the over-zealous religious types that try to shove their religion down you throat convinced that their way is the right way. Well, how do you know? Of course, being schizo with apocolyptical voices giving you odd ideas and alternate versions of creation don't really help either. lol. But anyhow. I feel that whatever you believe in, if it gets you through and doesn't hurt anyone, is correct. Because it does the job that religion is supposed to.

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Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:04 pm

I love religions. To me they're the ultimate conspiracy theories. I like to study them and I have no problem slipping into a random church and 'talking it' as if I believe it myself.

Honestly I think the bible is fiction. I think it was written by people who believed what they were saying, edited by people who wanted others to believe the parts they were leaving in, and sold by people who wanted sheep to do their bidding. I believe most 'gods' were like the sun and stars - explanations made up for things humans didn't have the science to understand because they wanted to believe their lives were meaningful and that they had a purpose beyond reproduction and death.

I believe there is something beyond random chance to blame for the universe. If it's a single entity, it'll be a god. I like to pretend I believe the old testament because I like the idea of a vengeful god who changes the rules depending on his mood and which human he's manipulating at the moment. I believe the thing (entity/god/process/etc) that guided life on earth was bored and that it has long since stopped paying attention to this particular experiment. I don't believe in an afterlife. If there is one, I hope it's reincarnation because I never want to spend an eternity in a 'perfect' realm whether it's perfectly wonderful (heaven) or perfectly horrible (hell).

That said...I'm a methodist. My mom teaches a sunday school class at our church. I try to attend as little as possible because it's really boring and I always fall asleep. I have more fun talking to Catholics and Jehova's Witnesses - because they like to argue and convert and that makes for great debates.

I'm not an athiest because if there is a god and I ever see proof, I'll believe. I'm withholding judgement. I doubt it will affect my life whether there is one or not. I'll still live and die just like every other living thing on this planet. Any god with the power to make a universe should have better things to do than mess around with one cranky human. ^_^;

SilversLightning · Post by **SilversLightning** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:27 pm

I like pretending I'm evil in front of Jehovah Witnesses

and I love scaring them (or scarring them for life)

If there is a hell I'm so going there

wurpess · Post by **wurpess** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:37 pm

DivineQueenYeiweh wrote:I like pretending I'm evil in front of Jehovah Witnesses and I love scaring them (or scarring them for life) If there is a hell I'm so going there

See, that's when being schizophrenic with voices that will usually talk on topics relevant to religion come in handy. I let them tell me what the say and start spouting what they've told me in the past, and the silly little Jehovas will usually leave. Sometimes quickly, sometimes after trying to debate with the crazy girl. lol. It makes me giggle maniacally.

Esrhan · Post by **Esrhan** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:08 pm

Never met him.

Nessephanie · Post by **Nessephanie** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:53 pm

I talked to God, she says 'yo what's up' and...she wants you to lose the gun.

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:10 pm

You're Jehova's Witness? I'm Cthulu's Counsel! Prepare for cross-examination!

paizuri · Post by **paizuri** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:21 pm

godix wrote:Oh, to answer the question, I'm agnostic. There may or may not be a god, I don't know. I am pretty fucking sure that if there is a god none of the religions have it right though.

Or, if God is all things to all people, every religion has it right.