Question about matching lyrics

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Post by ZephyrStar » Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:12 pm

"Creme tangerine, and montelimar,
a ginger sling with a pineapple core,
coffee dessert, yes you know it's good news,
but you'll have to have them all pulled out after the savoy truffle"

Talking about food right? and that sweet things are good, but if you eat the really sweet ones, you loose your teeth, right?

Well, yeah, but you can also apply this to human emotions and relationships.

"you might not feel it now,
but when the pain cuts through you're gonna know and how,
the sweat is gonna fill your head,
when it becomes too much, you'll shout aloud"

another verse from the same song, now we can see that it is more about emotion than food :) Of course, often emotion and food go hand in hand.



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Post by shumira_chan » Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:56 pm

JudgeHolden wrote:Now you can litterially sync to the lyrics ... in a song that has a strong storytelling element.
Any good examples of this?

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Post by downwithpants » Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:33 pm

think of it this way:
lyric sync is a skill in AMV editing, like shooting a layup is a skill in basketball. a good basketball player should know how to shoot a layup, but he doesn't go for a layup everytime he gets the ball. he knows when to pass or when to take the jump shot. he knows the goal is to win the game, not just make layups.

being able to lyric sync well will allow you to become a better editor, but it's not the ultimate goal of amv editing. your goal should be to make an entertaining or moving or artsy video or something. sometimes that means you should sacrifice the obvious lyric sync opportunity, for example, to make the video flow better or to make the theme more consistent. and sometimes breaking the rules gives your video more artistic credibility :roll:.

anyways, lyric sync is one of many skills you use to create an AMV. you could say the the "art" of editing is choosing which skills to use, where to use them, and how to use them.
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Post by SunMoonAndSpoon » Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:57 pm

Makes sense. It's just difficult. The first fan-related thing I was able to do is write fanfics, and while I certainly must have had to learn to write at some point, I don't remember doing so. So to start off it was only making the stories and figuring out how to improve. With AMVs, I only JUST learned how to physically make them, and then right after that I have to learn how to perfect them. It's a bit overwhelming. What you guys are saying makes a lot of sense, so thank you.

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Post by mexicanjunior » Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:08 pm

shumira_chan wrote:
JudgeHolden wrote:Now you can litterially sync to the lyrics ... in a song that has a strong storytelling element.
Any good examples of this?
I doubt pimp my own vids all that often but I thought this video did a good job of it...

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... php?v=5247

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Post by SarahtheBoring » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:03 pm

Ileia wrote:But just remember that everyone that leaves a comment has a specific taste. You can't cater to everyone.
So. True. And a lot of people forget that, especially when they're new. They worry about pleasing everyone, forgetting the old saying about pleasing everyone. :P

While the technical aspects can have "right ways to do it," a lot of the stylistic elements are a matter of opinion. There isn't so much "the right way to do it always, every time" as "a way to do it that works in this situation."

Which isn't that different from writing, really. You just have to try it and see if it works, then mess with it for a while if it doesn't. You learned the improvement and refinement part of writing; you'll do fine with this. :)

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Post by downwithpants » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:39 pm

SunMoonAndSpoon wrote:With AMVs, I only JUST learned how to physically make them, and then right after that I have to learn how to perfect them. It's a bit overwhelming.
if people are giving you criticism, don't think of it as pressure to perfect amvs, but as pressure to improve. no editor is perfect, except kevin caldwell.
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Post by shumira_chan » Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:08 am

mexicanjunior wrote:I doubt pimp my own vids all that often but I thought this video did a good job of it...

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... php?v=5247
The video is fine, and there's lyric sync, but there's hardly a
discernible story. I'm thinking something more along the lines
of a three-part narrative.

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Post by JudgeHolden » Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:24 am

shumira_chan wrote:
mexicanjunior wrote:I doubt pimp my own vids all that often but I thought this video did a good job of it...

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... php?v=5247
The video is fine, and there's lyric sync, but there's hardly a
discernible story. I'm thinking something more along the lines
of a three-part narrative.


One of the best I know for using the story of the song. Now this is on the comedy end. Honeslty I have yet to see one that is good on the drama end.

Now for sonething that tells an easy to understand story (and one different from the anime), and uses the idea behind the music, this might work.


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Post by Gene Starwind 21122 » Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:48 am

I've read the other posts here and it was going to be about the same thing I was going to say. You're right, lyrical sync is an important piece to the amv. However taking it to literally will hender your video. Myself I'm a person that stresses on lyrical sync and how important it is to get the full feeling out them. Basically just take a look at the lyrics ahead of time, interpret the meaning of the song as a whole, then break it down line by line to create the story. There are times you can go literal with the lyrics as long as it does not interfer with the flow of your video.
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