AMVs brought up on ANN

[Arigatomina]

Creativity asks you to recreate the wheel as a hexagon. The problem with that? I bet most of our hexagon people are a) not a significant portion of the population to begin with and b) less likely to have good jobs that pay for this rather expensive hobby and allow them to inundate us with their original works.

And c) the hexagon won't fulfill the purpose of the original wheel. It'll look cool and unique and new, but it won't fit on our cars.

Same problem with extreme creativity in vids. Not enough people are interested in a new wheel that isn't round enough to roll. Aesthetic-lovers will like it on a shelf. Everyone else will go after the blue and purple and cherry red wheels that look new, but still work the same way the old ones did. Glittery new paint added to the same old thing = typical effect vid.

Nice analogy, btw.

[Koopiskeva]

'technokrats'.

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[JaddziaDax]

According to answer man I'm nothing more but a uncreative pedophile... Someone hold me

maybe i should send you some of my 10 yearold fangirls? O.o that is unless they are too old for you? O.O


/me hides

Actually I like them a little older

sarcasm then?

(ps. my fangirls also come in the 15+ years categories O: heh)

[Knowname]

To grossly generalize, there are two kinds of people: synthesizers and creatives.

problem is most creatives at this stage are so unrefined that... all their stuff comes out like goop... sad but true. Ironically

[The Wired Knight]

Is this guy a columnist?

I hope for damn sure no one considers him a real journalist. He doesn't mention this site, he doesn't mention contests, he apparently hasn't spoken to any creators, and he completely ignores videos that contain original material, such as many of EK's works.

Someone needs to go back to Journalism 101.

I believe he would be considered a columnist though he just seems to be a general questions guy for ANN when people weant to ask things.

That said I'm actually glad he didn't bring up the org.

In lieu of all the copyright fiascos and his long discussion how how we violate copyright laws I think it's a good thing he didn't point to this site because a relation would be drawn by people who read it. Furthermore, ANN draws so many hits per day that I'm certain it wouldn't be too long before the wrong person read it.

That aside I really have to disagree with a lot of what he says. Though I do agree that most videos on the tube are bad I don't feel that that's entierly representative of AMVS as a whole being of poor quality.

More importantly I really disagere with his statement taht AMVs are inherently uncreative. By that definition, writers for movies are uncreative (insert joke regarding cinema here) when they take from a book because all the material is there allready. Just because the sources existed prior does not therby make any sort of amalgamation of them a bland sum.

Secondly I don't care of rhis allusion just saying Music Y + Anime X = Video Z and that is not creative because the idea is obvious. Soem ideas are not depending on the respects you look at it from and more importantly a video is not created just by the idea of the two sources. The editing technique and style and the way it is portrayed creates the larger picture from which the video is judged by.

By that logic all videos using the same music and anime are all equal in their creativity because of from what they were drawn from.

[Sephiroth]

I find it funny that a person who spends his time writing about anime has a hollier then thou attitude when a amv creator actually does something with it.

[Niotex]

According to answer man I'm nothing more but a uncreative pedophile... Someone hold me

maybe i should send you some of my 10 yearold fangirls? O.o that is unless they are too old for you? O.O


/me hides

Actually I like them a little older

sarcasm then?

(ps. my fangirls also come in the 15+ years categories O: heh)

Thats about right

[reddragon_syndicate]

(It was kinda nice for the org not to be in there huh?) From the look of things .... now this is just me here.... it seems he could be compared to the next door neighbor. If asked he says what he thinks (or what ANN tells him to) on whatever the subject may be. In one of the topics there is some question about people not ehh.... not being a fan of anime, but still playing the japanese rpgs and what have you.. any whoozit. The first sentence and following two paragraphs are somewhat close to what we see here in our discussions. It's halarious that in the first sentence of this topic he says "Welcome to the internet, where nobody's allowed to have a moderate opinion and worthless blanket judgments are the order of the day. ". lol Truth for the most part but I wonder if he is throwing his own opinion on in with that. My thoughts don't amount to much but I think Godix's Dead Horse banner would look quite nice in the forums there. Agreed?

[SarahtheBoring]

There's this thing where you see a bad example of something and assume that it proves that all the rest of its kind are bad. And then, on the other side, you hold up an example of something that is good and assume that it proves that all the rest of its kind are good. What's that called? Oh yeah. Laziness. He's right in that lots of AMVs are bad and some editors are pretentious. But it doesn't follow that all AMVs are bad and all editors are pretentious. It also doesn't follow that because there are good AMVs, all AMVs are good, or that it's wrong to bash them in any form.

What? A class of objects can contain both positive and negative examples that still fit into the overall category? I don't understaaaaand. It's so much easier to make sweeping generalizations! Thinking makes my brain hurt.

Okay, okay, MANY AMVs are bad. Mine among them. Does that debase the AMVs that are, by contrast, creative and entertaining? Matter of opinion. I vote no. I'd bet some think that they do. That's an interesting question. I prefer to think that my suck makes the rest of you look better. o/` We provide a vital service to society. o/`

Most importantly, thanks to that link to ANN, I can watch people bitch-fight in two threads simultaneously. Ohhhh yeahhhh.

[Moonlight Soldier]

Tee hee.