Opinions, comments, feedback: What do AMV makers want?

Orwell · Post by **Orwell** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:01 am

Do I go over my quota if I quote kusoyaro?

What do I want from the viewing masses? Nothing, I don't really care what you think, I make amvs for me. If you want to leave feedback, that's nice, but I'm not going to hunt peopel down for it. [Note: this doesn't apply to betas]

Maybe some sex. I mean, isn't that the whole point of making yaoi amvs is to get laid?

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:13 am

can i say it ammuses me when people "disect" my videos in long detailed ops that see symbolism in effects i mearly thought were "pretty"

O.o

Jayn_Newell · Post by **Jayn_Newell** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:22 am

Sierra Lorna wrote:But you definitely shouldn't think we don't want to hear from you. I think most of us editors feel the more feedback, the better. Even if it's not the most amazingly helpful comment ever, it's good to just hear what everyone thinks.

This is where I fall. Everyone has somewhat different ideas of what does and doesn't work, and hearing those different ideas helps me decide how to improve. I'll always listen to any critique I get, even if I don't use it--it helps me think straight about what I do or don't want to try and change on my next video. It doesn't have to be super-detailed, as long as it's not a two-word OP.

Cornwiggle · Post by **Cornwiggle** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:45 am

It's the same with anything, I do something that takes time so if someone watches it it's nice to hear at least a little feedback for it. Even a small "you suck" or "that was great" is fine. Though I don't mind longer explanations, especially with the bad ones so I can know what they hated so much so I can try to improve in that area if enough people had a problem with it.

Esrhan · Post by **Esrhan** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:48 am

I make anime music videos for the fun of it and it gives me a chance to satisfy my creative side. If making actual movies were as easy as this hobby, then I'd probably be doing that instead. The reason I put them available to a site like this is because I see no reason to limit the available selection of AMVs. I love watching good AMVs. I download and keep the "best" ones on my HD and in time watch them again and again for the viewing experience I get out of them. Some videos are pure genious and ageless. Now, if a video by me can give a good viewing experience to someone else, then why not? The bottom line is I love creating and with AMVs I can be the writer, director, editor and "publisher" all at the same time.

Comments, feedback and criticism are natural things to hear when it comes to a hobby like this. I welcome all of those but they aren't some special source of pleasure I feed on.

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:23 pm

thefourthvine wrote:Pretty much since I joined a-m-v.org, I've been under the impression that AMV editors want only opinions that are constructive, detailed, and from other AMV makers - in other words, that opinions are only valuable to AMV editors if they're filled with constructive criticism from highly knowledgeable people.

That totally ruled me out, and I've been merrily downloading AMVs from the site for years without leaving any comments or opinions - nothing beyond the mandatory star rankings.

Recently, though, I've been told that that impression is wrong. So, my question to you:

What kind of feedback do you want on your AMVs? Do you want to get the "I watched this and I liked it" kind of comments? Do you want any opinions, even if they're not particularly detailed or deep? Or do you want only constructive, detailed, thoughtful opinions from very qualified sources?

In short: what do AMV editors want to hear from the masses of non-AMV-making viewers? Nothing? Something? And if something, what? I'd love to know.

First off, generally no one's opinion should be "ruled out." There are exceptions to the rule, but if you've been downloading and watching for as long as you have, you probably know what you like and don't like

. Maybe not?

Secondly, perhaps I'm just a pessimist, but what Scintilla says about ego-stroking is sadly what a lot of people on here want. They can say all they want about honest feedback (and for some it's true), but a large amount of people here just wanna hear how awesome they are and get their 10 seconds of internet fame (in an already small sub-community of people).

I've seen far too many times, my honest and well-detailed criticism taken as some sort of attack or a "how dare you lower my averages?" My reviews generally take 30 minutes to an hour and after awhile it just wasn't worth it anymore. Not to say there aren't people who want honest feedback (whether it is good or bad), but I dunno, opinions, " top vid" lists, Viewer's Choice Awards, Op Trading etc. has really brought out the bad-side of this community at times too.

As for myself (beyond the occasional ego-stroke), as Scintilla also noted, I like knowing if I succeeded. Did my "happy" video make you feel all warm inside? Did my romance video make you all sappy and gooey? etc. Also as Corran noted, did you "get it" or rather, do you see what I was going for and if you do and see that I did not succeed, how could I improve upon that?

Sure the all 10's ego-stroke is nice occasionally, but as noted, they're useless in terms of improvement. In the end, it all depends on what you want out of both the hobby and the opinion itself. And again let me reiterate that I don't believe *all* people are opinion-whores, but it'd be naive to assume they don't exist (and exist in large multitudes).

Speaking of ego-stroking, Scintilla was the one who pointed me out to your post almost a year ago and I apologize for not seeing it earlier, but here's a late "Thanks!" for your praise

. Frankly that type of opinion is one that is generally appreciated.

HorrorPhD · Post by **HorrorPhD** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:55 pm

In terms of feedback, I want it constructive. I don't care if it's a full on op...it can be a QC (signed or not, doesn't matter). If you liked it, tell me why. If you didn't like it, tell me why. Don't be a jerk about it...it's hard to extract anything constructive out of a flame. If you think I need to improve, tell me how.

I'm all about the learning in this hobby, and I try to make each new video better than the last one, or at least try to expand my editing horizons.

So, having feedback that helps me learn is a major bonus.

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:31 pm

Most of us are lucky to even get feedback without asking anymore. It's even becoming rare to get a QC nowadays.

Orwell · Post by **Orwell** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:52 am

Castor Troy wrote:Most of us are lucky to even get feedback without asking anymore. It's even becoming rare to get a QC nowadays.

If you make a video, they will comment. Or I will anyhow.

BauziOLD · Post by **BauziOLD** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:41 am

Castor Troy wrote:Most of us are lucky to even get feedback without asking anymore. It's even becoming rare to get a QC nowadays.

I would say that it is rare to get critics, comments and ops (without exchange) from people you don´t no. Completly strangers.

I´m lucky when I get feedback. Positive or negative is not important.

In terms of feedback, I want it constructive. I don't care if it's a full on op...it can be a QC (signed or not, doesn't matter). If you liked it, tell me why. If you didn't like it, tell me why. Don't be a jerk about it...it's hard to extract anything constructive out of a flame. If you think I need to improve, tell me how.

Nothing to add more...

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