I need some filter recommendations...

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I need some filter recommendations...

Post by sayde » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:16 pm

I ripped some footage from Xenosaga 3 and it looks like crap. Especially when you view it full screen.

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see?

Seriously, what filters can I use w/ avisynth to make this look better? (I wonder why the quality looked so much better on Television. lol)
Better yet, what can I do in general to make this look better? I swear, Xenosaga 2 and 3 seem like the only exceptions to the notion that ripping>>>>>>>>>capturing.

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Post by Keeper of Hellfire » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:30 am

Did you deinterlace at all?

Against the jagged edges you can try SangNom(...) or TIsophote(...). If you use SangNom, you probably don't need another deinterlacer. I don't know if TIsophote can do the same.

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Post by sayde » Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:09 pm

thanks for the suggestions Keeper of Hellfire. I'll post an update later.

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Post by sayde » Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:35 pm

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this DGIndex info would'nt be of any use on the issue, right?

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Post by sayde » Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:38 pm

results w/ TIsophote:

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Results w/ sangnom

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anyways, I've decided to go ahead and use this simple script for now.
ConvertToYV12()
Telecide(order=1,post=2,blend=false,vthresh=30,back=1)
Decimate(cycle=5,mode=3,quality=3)
deen("a3d",4)
temporalcleaner()
SSXSharpen(ssw=4,ssh=4,xstren=255,xthresh=255)
TIsophote(4, 0.2, 2)

Still open for any suggestions btw.

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Post by sayde » Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:55 pm

I hate to post in my own thread 4 times in a row, but it would seem that the real problem has to do with the fact that upclose, the footage looks extremely grainy. No matter what I do, I can't seem to get it to go away. It's almost exactly as if I was watching footage in .flv or .swf format. The footage actually looks just fine to me at it's original resolution, but it's flaws become painfully obvious if you fullscreen it.

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Post by CrackTheSky » Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:04 pm

sayde wrote:I hate to post in my own thread 4 times in a row, but it would seem that the real problem has to do with the fact that upclose, the footage looks extremely grainy. No matter what I do, I can't seem to get it to go away. It's almost exactly as if I was watching footage in .flv or .swf format. The footage actually looks just fine to me at it's original resolution, but it's flaws become painfully obvious if you fullscreen it.
That's why you don't fullscreen AMVs that use VG footage.

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Post by Kariudo » Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:07 pm

you could try removegrain() (direct link)
for removegrain you'll have to know what instruction sets your cpu has. if you don't know, you can find out by getting cpu-z (direct link)

if you can only use SSE, put all the .dll files with SSE in thier names into the avisynth plugins folder (and all those that don't have SSE, SSE2 or SSE3 in thier names)

if you can use that and SSE2, put all the .dll files with SSE2 in thier names into the avisynth plugins folder (and all those that don't have SSE, SSE2 or SSE3 in thier names)

if you can use that and SSE3, put all the .dll files with SSE3 in thier names into the avisynth plugins folder (and all those that don't have SSE, SSE2 or SSE3 in thier names)
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Post by sayde » Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:15 pm

gotcha. Thanks Kariudo.
My next biggest project to come...
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wait on it!

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Post by sayde » Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:31 pm

*update*
looks noticably better now. Thanks a lot. That combined with the filters I used for my recent 1st pass seemed to have done something right. It's still not perfect, but then again, the source of the footage itself wasn't the greatest in quality either. So it was only going to get but so good to begin with. Anyways, I appreciate the help.

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