Song Choices...

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Post by Radical_Yue » Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:02 am

a) I would go with song 1. While the song style might not fit the anime, it could become an oppurtunity to create something interesting and have some fun too.

b) Well, I don't like live versions...even if they are really good (haven't heard one yet =P) so I'd stick with the original.

c) Say hello to my video Grace.
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Post by wurpess » Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:37 pm

a) Song 1. I like messing with the general mood of the anime and showing it in a different light. Also, if given a choice between showing the original story of the anime and the original mood, I would choose the story (unless of course I had thought of a really awesome way to fudge the story/clips) Fudging stories can be messy, and while you can do an amv without a story and just beause it looks pretty, I usually prefer to have some kind of story, even if its a retelling of a part of the anime. I think messing with the mood is just a good way to show a different facet of the anime or just make people look at it a little differently.

b) If I could either edit the crowd out, or make them less obvious, I would use it. If I could make the crowd part of the vid, I would use it. Other than that, that would be a bit distracting, so I would just use the album ones. Maybe I'd see if I could edit in a really cool part of the live one. I don't know.

c) I generally don't have lasting ideas with anime I've never seen anything of. Ones I've only watched the first disc of, yes. But I usually will only make amvs with anime I've seen at least something of. And I only use DVD footage, so I will usually watch whatever my footage is before I do the vid. But hey, if someone can do a decent amv with an anime they've never seen, more power to them.
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Post by Keeper of Hellfire » Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:01 am

A) Either discard both songs and look for one that suits all my wishes or use Song B, trying to edit the not fitting parts of the song.

B)Why not using the live version? If you can integrate the action of the crowd into your AMV, where is the problem? In the moment I'm working on an AMV with a comparable situation. I use a song from an OST which has all the movie noise into it. It was released on CD that way, no clean version is available at all. But if you can't, stick with the normal version.

C)I never would do an AMV without watching the AMV at least once. How should a lyrics synch or a mood synch work if I don't know what's going on? Only from scrubbing through to select the scenes you can't always judge what's going on. So if you for example select a funny scene and match it to something sad, claiming it beeing a serious drama AMV and not a parody, what do you think, how will the reaction be from someone who knows the anime?

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Post by OmniStrata » Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:58 am

[situation a]
Song 1: do it, try something new... just cause it doesn't fit doesn't mean it won't. [best example, my dance amv using Boys Be] There's no such thing as a song with 'spot on lyrics' that doesn't match the anime... Just edit more scenes in

Song 2: ignore all the lyrics together and make your own story. I edited one of my best feather in my cap works to JPop and aside from a few people ranting about how I don't lyric sync [despite ignorance that they themselves don't speak fluent Japanese] I like it cause it follows a story and the rhythm of the song. In my opinion, if you HAVE to follow lyrics, you are in 'newb' realm and are limiting your 'true' potential.

It's like a martial arts kata to me. It's one thing to memorize a form [remain in standard], but the highest form is done from nothing and created by yourself... ^_^

[situation b]

I've never EVER found a live version of a song that's of better quality than a cd studio rip. You'll have to show me an example of this...

[situation c]
*see situation a, song 2
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Post by Otohiko » Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:20 am

OmniStrata wrote:
I've never EVER found a live version of a song that's of better quality than a cd studio rip. You'll have to show me an example of this...
Heavily dependent on music genre and artists involved.

In many instances a band will record a new song, and then polish it during live performances.

I'd give an example, but I'm afraid half the music I listen to is an example. My favorite band is an example that proves it over (and over...) 90+ official releases. :roll:
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Post by Otohiko » Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:23 am

Just to qualify - the quality is a different quality we're talking about. Yes, most (though not all) live recordings have poorer recording quality than professionally-produced studio albums, but at the same time have better quality of musicianship.
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Post by HorrorPhD » Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:12 am

A) Since lyrics and lyric synch are extremely important to me, I'd lean more towards the first song and see if I could arrange the clips to fit the style of the song. However, that's not my preferred method...I'd much rather have a song with everything going for what I see in my head for the video, so in all truth, I'd probably scrap both songs and look for a song with lyrics like song 1 and style like song 2.

B) Album version. I've never been a fan of live versions overall, so I doubt a live version would hold my interest long enough for me to finish a video.

C) Never happened to me (yet). I always like to watch the anime prior to making a video to know the context of the scenes and to get an overall plot feel. For me, to make an amv without having seen the anime would be like flying blind...and I crash and burn enough as it is. :P
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Post by Knowname » Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:09 am

-Song 1 - you think, "Wow, the lyrics are spot on for this one, but the style of the song (hard rock, perhaps) doesn't really fit the style of the anime (mushy romance, perhaps)."-

is this a bad thing?? These are the types that I ABSOLUTELEY LOVE, the ones where you come away with a 'WTF??' yet somehow satisfied feeling. Sometimes it's just a 'WTF, don't waste my time' feeling though, so you really gotta be carefull (and the line IS really vague anyway, like some may STILL see it as SPOT on while some may not). I dunno, do whatever pleases you best -_-

-Song 2 - you think, "The music and the style is perfect, but I'm going to have to 'fudge' scenes for some of the lyrics." -

tried it, tis not alway the best :p

-So, you have an anime, and you've even found a song. However, you find a live version of the song and realize that it's really good, too - maybe even better than the album version! However, there is the annoyance of crowd noise, and you're worried that that may become a distraction in your finished product.-

I'd ignore the croud noise

-n a strange moment of inspiration, you pair up a song you know with an anime you haven't even seen (introduced to you perhaps by another AMV). You want to make the video, but you feel weird editing something that you're not even sure will work right.-

I've had a few of those! But I have so many ideas I could EASILY find something else to do... That's just me. Stick with what you know.

But doing something like that might work. If your out of other ideas... or feeling extra friskey ;p

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Post by Knowname » Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:21 am

Kitsuner wrote:Of course, at this point I either decide I want to do too much with it to actually do anything with it, or I get distracted and forget about the idea for a couple of months.
lmao! You, my friend, are cracked. Best get out of this hobby before you expose yourself to public.

.... and believe me, I ignore that advice myself...

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Post by Knowname » Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:48 am

here think on this oldy by an old master. I have nothing more to say... other than my quote of Kitsuner is horribly wrong. I highlighted the wrong paragraph.

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