This one wasn't planned. (REC-Goo Goo Dolls)

BauziOLD · Post by **BauziOLD** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:27 pm

Overall it was good and enjoyable, but I wasn´t pleased with the end of the amv. 2:43-end
I was missing something there. Don´t ask me what.

Warheart · Post by **Warheart** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:02 pm

Not outstanding or great but I like the sources and with decent editing ... it was enjoyable. Glad I decided to download it

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Qyot27 · Post by **Qyot27** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:05 am

Willen wrote:First off, the video was very likable. And the quality was very good (1280 x 720 HD res?).

But... I had problems playing this video with Media Player Classic and Windows Media Player - sound, but no video. I finally used VLC to play it after it gave me a dialog that said the AVI file is broken and seeking will not work properly. When I opened it up in VirtualDubMod, it gave me the MP3 VBR audio stream error. After clearing that error dialog, VDM tells me it can't locate a decompressor for 'xvid' (!) which tells me that this was encoded with a DirectShow version of XviD and it requires the DirectShow filter for playback. If I enable ffdshow to handle XviD (not my first choice, I normally disable this), it plays without a hitch in MPC and WMP using ffdshow's decoder filter. This is the first time I have encountered this issue.

Just a heads up:
For people who use VLC media player, they will encounter an error, likely due to the VBR MP3 audio stream.

For people who installed the XviD codec only or are using XviD for decoding, it is (at least Koepi's build is) a VfW codec and not compatible with this DirectShow XviD video - use VLC or use ffdshow to decode the video.

For people who use the default CCCP installation, you shouldn't have a problem since it uses ffdshow for XviD decoding.

That's funny, on my computer it plays just fine (although it lags a bit because my hardware's not up to it). I can't figure out if it's DivX (5.2.1) or XviD (1.1.2) decoding it, though - in the Summary dialog in Explorer it says DivX, but when the video is playing and I check the properties in WMP 6.4 neither DivX nor XviD shows up - in VDubMod it does say that DivX is decoding it, however. It's not ffdshow, though, since I have that set to appear in the tray and it doesn't. In Nic's FourCC Changer both values are 'xvid', so I would assume that it would be XviD decoding it (especially since I don't have DivX set on 'Support Generic MPEG-4').

VDubMod does still throw the VBR audio error, though.

KnX · Post by **KnX** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:06 pm

it was entertaining but really this is not my kind of AMVs

Knowname · Post by **Knowname** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:15 am

Qyot27 wrote:I can't figure out if it's DivX (5.2.1) or XviD (1.1.2) decoding it, though - in the Summary dialog in Explorer it says DivX, but when the video is playing and I check the properties in WMP 6.4 neither DivX nor XviD shows up - in VDubMod it does say that DivX is decoding it, however. It's not ffdshow, though, since I have that set to appear in the tray and it doesn't. In Nic's FourCC Changer both values are 'xvid', so I would assume that it would be XviD decoding it (especially since I don't have DivX set on 'Support Generic MPEG-4').

VDubMod does still throw the VBR audio error, though.

Infidels!

Infinity Squared · Post by **Infinity Squared** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:57 am

Editing could be polished more I think. I think clip length is where it sometimes seems "troubled." What I mean is, some of the scene changes maybe just before or just after some change should have happened, like you were a bit indecisive about whether or not to actually cut it there. I'm sure that probably didn't happen, however, that's how it came out to me. For HD source as well, I think the quality of the footage itself could have been cleaner. It would have been either the low bitrate or lack of cleaning, but I think for something like this, you should have tried to border the 100MB limit to get the quality better, or go with something smaller like h264.

Technical things aside, I think you melded the source and the music beautifully enough for me to actually be able to look past these things and enjoy it for what it was; a nice love story.

Willen · Post by **Willen** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:40 am

For some reason, even updating XviD to 1.1.2 (I was running 1.1.0) didn't fix it. GSpot's Render function shows me a partial failure with no video decompressor found:

0x00040257: VFW_S_VIDEO_NOT_RENDERED - Cannot play the video stream: no suitable decompressor could be found.

So, either my XviD DirectShow filter is borked, or the AVI splitter isn't doing something correctly for this file. I do notice that I don't see the usual video comments/metadata that I normally see when viewing the file in MediaInfo.

For example, the info from my latest release:

General #0
Complete name : C:\AMV Project\GB_Queen_BodyLanguage\[ES] Body Language - XviD.avi
Format : AVI
Info : Audio Video Interleave
Family : RIFF
File size : 22.4 MiB
PlayTime : 1mn 38s
Bit rate : 1916 Kbps
Writing application : VirtualDubMod 1.5.4.1 (build 2066/release)
Writing library : VirtualDubMod build 2066/release

Video #0
Codec : DivX 5
Family : MPEG-4
Codec settings : BVOP
PlayTime : 1mn 38s
Bit rate : 1711 Kbps
Width : 720
Height : 400
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.97 fps
Resolution : 8
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.198
Writing library : XviD0041

Audio #0
Codec : MPEG-1 Audio layer 3
Family : MPEG-1
Info : MPEG-1 or 2 layer 3
Codec profile : Joint stereo
PlayTime : 1mn 38s
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44 KHz
Resolution : 16

MediaInfo details on this video:

General #0
Complete name : C:\Documents and Settings\William.YGGDRASIL\My Documents\My Videos\Anime Music Videos - NEW\Love Synch_Greggus1.avi
Format : AVI
Info : Audio Video Interleave
Family : RIFF
File size : 79.7 MiB
PlayTime : 3mn 17s

Video #0
Codec : xvid
PlayTime : 3mn 17s
Width : 1280
Height : 720
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 30 fps

Audio #0
Codec : MPEG-1 Audio layer 3
Family : MPEG-1
Info : MPEG-1 or 2 layer 3
Codec profile : Joint stereo
PlayTime : 3mn 21s
Bit rate : 128 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Resolution : 16

And for comparison, MediaInfo for Novem:

General #0
Complete name : C:\Documents and Settings\William.YGGDRASIL\My Documents\My Videos\Anime Music Videos - NEW\Novem-Kusoyaro&Nightowl-XviD.avi
Format : AVI
Info : Audio Video Interleave
Family : RIFF
File size : 692 MiB
PlayTime : 25mn 15s
Bit rate : 3832 Kbps
Writing library : VirtualDub build 23648/release

Video #0
Codec : XviD
Family : MPEG-4
Info : XviD project
Codec settings : BVOP / Packed Bitstream
PlayTime : 25mn 15s
Bit rate : 3627 Kbps
Width : 640
Height : 352
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.97 fps
Resolution : 8
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.537
Writing library : XviD0037

Audio #0
Codec : MPEG-1 Audio layer 3
Family : MPEG-1
Info : MPEG-1 or 2 layer 3
Codec profile : Joint stereo
PlayTime : 25mn 15s
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Resolution : 16

Greggus1 · Post by **Greggus1** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:05 am

great vid! I really liked the flow of this more than most romance videos I'd seen. ^.^

Thanks

Overall it was good and enjoyable, but I wasn´t pleased with the end of the amv. 2:43-end
I was missing something there. Don´t ask me what.

What?

Not outstanding or great but I like the sources and with decent editing ... it was enjoyable. Glad I decided to download it .

Coming from someone with your standards, I appreciate it.

That's funny, on my computer it plays just fine (although it lags a bit because my hardware's not up to it). I can't figure out if it's DivX (5.2.1) or XviD (1.1.2) decoding it, though - in the Summary dialog in Explorer it says DivX, but when the video is playing and I check the properties in WMP 6.4 neither DivX nor XviD shows up - in VDubMod it does say that DivX is decoding it, however. It's not ffdshow, though, since I have that set to appear in the tray and it doesn't. In Nic's FourCC Changer both values are 'xvid', so I would assume that it would be XviD decoding it (especially since I don't have DivX set on 'Support Generic MPEG-4').

What?

it was entertaining but really this is not my kind of AMVs

Well thank you! But who isn't romance for, I wonder?

Infidels!

Huh?

Technical things aside, I think you melded the source and the music beautifully enough for me to actually be able to look past these things and enjoy it for what it was; a nice love story.

Thanks

Well, everybody, thanks for watching. However, I hope that, whether you liked the vid or not, you didn't judge me permanently based on it. All your criticism is true, and I'd noticed the flaws before uploading, but I was doing this for fun, and didn't feel like getting nitpicky. I just needed some confort from editing. I shouldn't have announced this vid, but I was looking for some conforting comments too, which you guys gave me, and I appreciate. Anyways, as I said earlier, I'm working on a bigger something, and whatever measly bar (had to use that term, I love the controversy) I have set here, believe that my next AMV will trample it.

Merry Christmas!

Qyot27 · Post by **Qyot27** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:04 pm

Willen wrote:For some reason, even updating XviD to 1.1.2 (I was running 1.1.0) didn't fix it. GSpot's Render function shows me a partial failure with no video decompressor found:
0x00040257: VFW_S_VIDEO_NOT_RENDERED - Cannot play the video stream: no suitable decompressor could be found.
So, either my XviD DirectShow filter is borked, or the AVI splitter isn't doing something correctly for this file. I do notice that I don't see the usual video comments/metadata that I normally see when viewing the file in MediaInfo.

For example, the info from my latest release:
....

That's strange. Here's what I got from GSpot:

And from MediaInfo:

General #0
Complete name : C:\dap\...\Love Synch_Greggus1.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Format/Family : RIFF
File size : 79.7 MiB
PlayTime : 7mn 52s
Bit rate : 1412 Kbps

Video #0
Codec : xvid
PlayTime : 7mn 52s
Bit rate : 1271 Kbps
Width : 1280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 30.000 fps
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.046

Audio #0
Codec : MPEG-1 Audio layer 3
Codec profile : Joint stereo
PlayTime : 3mn 17s
Bit rate : 125 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
StreamSize : 2.96 MiB

But to get back to the actual video, it was nice. The mood fit nicely. I seem to remember a few spots where the sync could have been tighter, but overall it did its purpose (and this is coming from someone who has never seen REC; I need to get around to that). I've loved "Big Machine" (and Gutterflower in general) for years, and the video certainly didn't disappoint.

Knowname · Post by **Knowname** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:46 pm

*points *points.... nevermind. I don't know, it just works for me! I'm glad it's not x.264. x.264 would limit how many unsuspecting victims Greggus can prey upon now what good is that in such a video (ie I don't think this video was made to show technical excellence IE I didn't think it shoulda' been HD in the first place o.0 but no biggy for me)?
It's just not important just how detailed such a story as this is? is it?