Some questions about getting my system to run Adobe Premiere

Angeteen · Post by **Angeteen** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:22 am

I would like to be able to use a trial version of Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0, the only problem though, is that my system specs are a little low. I am using a Dimension 4550 desktop, running at 1.8ghz, .25 GB of RAM are installed, and my graphics card is a Radeon S80 with 128 MB. Having a 250 GB external hardrive disck space is no problem.

The problem that I have had in the past with Adobe Premiere is that, while I can use it, it takes forever. For example, when placing a clip on the slide, it *slowly* loads up bit by bit screencaps from the video. So my question is what upgrades do I need to make in order to use Premiere? would upgrading my CPU to 2.80 be a good idea, and if so, should I upgrade my video card while I'm at it? Or, better yet, should I just let the chip go and upgrade the card? Also, because of price difference in graphics card, should I buy a cheap Radeon ATI 9550 256MB AGP Video Card ($60), or a more pricey, xTASY RADEON X1300 256MB AGP Card ($115). Also, even if the memory is the same, why would I need a more expensive card, when the footage I'm working with shouldn't take that much up anyway.

Angeteen · Post by **Angeteen** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:27 am

Oh yeah, before I forget, this chip I found. It runs at 3.06ghz, the only thing I want to know though, will my Dimension 4550 be able to use it? The information of the chip goes as follows:
Intel Pentium 4 524 3.06GHz / 1MB Cache / 533MHz FSB / OEM / Socket 775 / Processor

Also, sorry for the double posting, but there seems to be no way in order to edit posts that I can find.

CrackTheSky · Post by **CrackTheSky** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:28 am

Don't bother with a new video card - editing programs (as far as I know) don't take that into account. At the very least Premiere shouldn't. Your problem is almost definitely RAM; 256 MB of RAM probably won't cut it if you want to do some serious editing. You should have at LEAST double that, if not 1 GB.

Angeteen · Post by **Angeteen** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:50 am

Sorry, I must have deleted the character before it by mistake. What I meant was I have 1.25 GB. Of course, where my system runs off of a 400mhz chip, if I changed to a 533mhz it would lower the maximum amount of RAM to 1 GB.

Willen · Post by **Willen** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:41 am

Angeteen wrote:Oh yeah, before I forget, this chip I found. It runs at 3.06ghz, the only thing I want to know though, will my Dimension 4550 be able to use it? The information of the chip goes as follows:
Intel Pentium 4 524 3.06GHz / 1MB Cache / 533MHz FSB / OEM / Socket 775 / Processor

Also, sorry for the double posting, but there seems to be no way in order to edit posts that I can find.

What processor is in your computer now? You only specify the clock speed as 1.8GHz and being a Dell (unless some other company makes a computer called a 'Dimension 4550') I'll assume it's a Pentium 4 (or Celeron). If it is a P4 1.8GHz, it probably uses a different socket (Socket 478) which is incompatible with the new CPU you listed.

And other than a few forums, editing your posts isn't possible. So don't worry about double posting.

Keeper of Hellfire · Post by **Keeper of Hellfire** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:29 am

CrackTheSky wrote:Don't bother with a new video card - editing programs (as far as I know) don't take that into account.

Wrong. Modern editing programs use the GPU for rendering tasks, and APP 2.0 belongs to these programs. Here's a list of recommended graphics cards for APP 2.0. You can check there other hardware too.

Angeteen · Post by **Angeteen** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:21 pm

Wrong. Modern editing programs use the GPU for rendering tasks, and APP 2.0 belongs to these programs.

In other words, when using APP, the graphics card being used is a biggy, therefore upgrading the processor isn't going to have much of an effect on it. I've looked at the list, and what I was wondering was, would a xTASY RADEON X1300 256MB AGP Card work? The reason I ask this is since I can't order a X800 AGP, or a X800 Express, then wouldn't the X1300 be a better choice since it appears newer?

Just for referencfe, I'm trying to order this stuff through wal*mart, that way if it don't have any effect, I can just take it back latter on. Here's a list of the current pages I'm using listing the graphic cards that I can choose from.

Radeon

http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng ... on&ic=24_0

Nivdia

http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng ... ce&ic=24_0

Also, if at all possible, is there an *afordable* card I can get? I mean, seriously, as much as I would love to get my hands on a Radeon X1600 AGP 512 MB, who in here has close to $180? So, yeah, I am the cheap guy, but only because I can't afford anything way up there.

What processor is in your computer now? You only specify the clock speed as 1.8GHz and being a Dell (unless some other company makes a computer called a 'Dimension 4550') I'll assume it's a Pentium 4 (or Celeron). If it is a P4 1.8GHz, it probably uses a different socket (Socket 478) which is incompatible with the new CPU you listed.

Yeah, the chip I'm using is a P 4, and from what I can recall, the socket is 478, although, what does a 478 socket mean anyway? The number of pins or something? Also I managed to find a good deal on a certain chip. For $70 I can get one that goes at 2.80ghz (it's also a pentium 4 chip). This should all check clear as green shouldn't it? Also, will 2.80 be enough to run APP sucessfully (ie. not make me want to crack my head open every time I use it)? I mean, whle the minum is 1.4ghz, they recommend 3.4ghz. @_@

http://www.starmicro.net/detail.aspx?ID=118

CrackTheSky · Post by **CrackTheSky** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:39 pm

Angeteen wrote:Just for referencfe, I'm trying to order this stuff through wal*mart, that way if it don't have any effect, I can just take it back latter on. Here's a list of the current pages I'm using listing the graphic cards that I can choose from.

You might be able to find video cards cheaper at Newegg. They're very reliable, and they have sales all the time. I have a 128 MB GeForce 6600 LE, and everything on my computer runs fine (of course, I'm a Vegas user, so I don't know if Premiere Pro would work as well on my system, but I'm pretty confident it would).

You should probably upgrade your processor first if you upgrade anything, though.

Kariudo · Post by **Kariudo** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:52 pm

Angeteen wrote:
Wrong. Modern editing programs use the GPU for rendering tasks, and APP 2.0 belongs to these programs.
In other words, when using APP, the graphics card being used is a biggy, therefore upgrading the processor isn't going to have much of an effect on it. I've looked at the list, and what I was wondering was, would a xTASY RADEON X1300 256MB AGP Card work? The reason I ask this is since I can't order a X800 AGP, or a X800 Express, then wouldn't the X1300 be a better choice since it appears newer?

Just for referencfe, I'm trying to order this stuff through wal*mart, that way if it don't have any effect, I can just take it back latter on. Here's a list of the current pages I'm using listing the graphic cards that I can choose from.

for the video card, you need to make sure that the interface type matches what your mobo can support.
A P4 will probably have PCI and/or AGP (depending on age, it might have PCI-E)

Radeon

http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng ... on&ic=24_0

Nivdia

http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng ... ce&ic=24_0

Also, if at all possible, is there an *afordable* card I can get? I mean, seriously, as much as I would love to get my hands on a Radeon X1600 AGP 512 MB, who in here has close to $180? So, yeah, I am the cheap guy, but only because I can't afford anything way up there.

What processor is in your computer now? You only specify the clock speed as 1.8GHz and being a Dell (unless some other company makes a computer called a 'Dimension 4550') I'll assume it's a Pentium 4 (or Celeron). If it is a P4 1.8GHz, it probably uses a different socket (Socket 478) which is incompatible with the new CPU you listed.
Yeah, the chip I'm using is a P 4, and from what I can recall, the socket is 478, although, what does a 478 socket mean anyway? The number of pins or something? Also I managed to find a good deal on a certain chip. For $70 I can get one that goes at 2.80ghz (it's also a pentium 4 chip). This should all check clear as green shouldn't it? Also, will 2.80 be enough to run APP sucessfully (ie. not make me want to crack my head open every time I use it)? I mean, whle the minum is 1.4ghz, they recommend 3.4ghz. @_@

http://www.starmicro.net/detail.aspx?ID=118

well...the video card is important, but if you don't have the cpu power or the ram required the graphics card won't matter.

your deduction is correct, socket 478 means that there are 478 slots in which 478 (and only 478) pins (on the processor) fit into.
you have to be a little careful when choosing a replacement cpu that it's the right socket for your mobo (socket T/LGA 775 processors would not work with a socket 478 mobo)

for the video card, (I may be making a little stretch here) I assume that the reccomended ones were the ones tested...and you should be ok as long as you get a card with similar specs (AGP4/8x or PCI-E, 256MB GDDR3, core clock ~400MB, memory clock ~1GB
once again, newegg ftw
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814131007
(~$90 with shipping)

Angeteen · Post by **Angeteen** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:25 pm

Thanks for the info, Kariudo, and also for the link. Say...if this is a X800, would a X1600 be twice as good, especaily when it has twice as much space (512 MB). I managed to talk a relative into helping me with paying half about half of it. I'm going to pay part, and as a Chistmas present, the relative is going to pay the other. Here's a link to the board in question. This should be better off, right?

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product. ... id=4858088