Is This A Good Method For Me To Make An AMV. Need Opinions.

[eDiTiX]

I'm not 100% sure this is the right forum to post this, but it seems pretty close.

Anyhow, getting to the subject. I'm trying to create an AMV, I want to make it look awesome but I just mainly want to upload it on places like youtube or here on a-m-v.org and keep it on my cpu.

My cpu also only has about 20 GB on it so I can't use the decryptor and vdub huffyuv method because it requires too much space and I don't need it to be THAT good quality since I'm not showcasing it or anything.

So I've talked to some friends here and finally came up with this method:

I simply rip all the little clip sections that I want to use in my AMV to MPEG2 using IMTOO DVD PLATINUM 4.0 which I have already and then put it in VEGAS 6.0. When I'm finished, I'll render and save the clip as a wmv file for good quality. IMTOO rips vobs to other types of files and makes them into small sections as you like so I'll have the exact clips that I want.

So...any opinions...advice....helpful information or is this okay? Like, any info on how good mpeg2 is in vegas, such as playback etc etc? So far I dont have the full version of vegas so what I'm doing is ripping stuff to xvid avi and codecing it with mpeg4 v3 so it can be processed in the vegas. So...when my full version vegas comes which should be about tomorrow or friday at most, hopefully. I'll just upload it with mpeg2 clips.

Thanks for everything

[CodeZTM]

This belongs in the general amv forum. Don't worry though, a mod should move it soon. As for your idea about NOT using huffy and dvddecrpyter... I don't like that very much, due to the fact that you really do need a lossless codec for your clips. Your idea is ok if you don't plan on making a masterpiece, but I know from experience that people don't watch AMV with fuzzy footage. Try using a lagarith compressor, which takes up less space than huffys. Other than that, all I can suggest is that you get another hard drive 160 GB+.

[dokidoki]

I simply rip all the little clip sections that I want to use in my AMV to MPEG2 using IMTOO DVD PLATINUM 4.0 which I have already and then put it in VEGAS 6.0.

After ripping a DVD with DVD Decrypter, you can use MPEG2Cut or something similar to keep only the portions you need. Although I've heard that MPEG-2 can be used in Vegas, I'm not personally familiar with it so maybe someone else can elaborate there.

[CrackTheSky]

Before you go the MPEG-2 route, I would suggest trying to encode your clips using Lagarith, as it's a lossless codec and the files will be smaller than those encoded with HuffYUV. If you still don't have enough space and you don't want to sacrifice a massive amount of time encoding only the clips you absolutely need with HuffYUV and Lagarith (thus saving space by not encoding useless clips) to get a better-quality video, you can try using the MPEG-2 encode. You may have some stability issues with Vegas, but I don't know one way or another as I've never used MPEG-2 clips for editing myself nor have I ever heard of anyone doing so.

Apparently you CAN import .vob files into Vegas and trim out clips from there, but again I haven't tried this. It may save you some space; the main problem you're going to have to deal with is interlacing, which you may not be able to completely remove if you don't IVTC the footage beforehand; doing it after editing is a pain in the neck and it's tough to get rid of it all.

The only other advice I can offer is that you may want to consider encoding the final version of your video with XviD; it's a better compressor than WMV and if you want people here to download your video, a lot of us (myself not included) have a stigmata of WMV videos, for various reasons.

[eDiTiX]

Well, when you guys say fuzzy amv, do you mean fuzzy on my cpu or when I upload it? Will uploading it on a-m-v.org lower the quality or something? I've made amvs from mpeg1 using wmm that looks great on my cpu but not too great onyoutube but then again youtube lowers the quality of everything.

Here's a sample on youtube of my real first ever made amv if you want to see what I'm talking about:

MY FIRST AMV USING WMM WITH MPEG1

Hopefully I did the url right haha.

So...what do you define as fuzzy. Like, how can I tell if its not good quality because most of it looks really good on my cpu...
About how much is 100gb and stuff and dont you have to defrag it often if you use it so much?

I just tried mpeg1 ecoded with lagarith lossless and it might be acceptable maybe. So my plan is either to use mpeg2 and then when I'm finished I render it to xvid or wmv.

My other method is to use my dvd ripper to rip small sections to divx avi and then encode it with lagarith...if the memory usage stays at a minimum.

[eDiTiX]

weird...but when I type ut.ube it types something else lol...hostalchel = that. Dont mind this message i'm just fixing the above

[Melanchthon]

Well, when you guys say fuzzy amv, do you mean fuzzy on my cpu or when I upload it? Will uploading it on a-m-v.org lower the quality or something?

No. All you're doing is moving the file from your computer onto the org's servers.

So...what do you define as fuzzy. Like, how can I tell if its not good quality because most of it looks really good on my cpu...
About how much is 100gb and stuff and dont you have to defrag it often if you use it so much?

100GB? 100GB is a lot of space if you're making a single video. 100MB (are you talking about the size limit for local hosting?) or under is easily acheivable for an average AMV with first-pass XviD* and mp3 audio.

You tell whether or not it's good quality by watching what you encode and mentally comparing it to other (downloaded, not streamed or off that place that the word filter changes to hosatchel) videos you have. Simple as that, unless I'm misinterpreting the question.

Regular defragging is a good idea, as if your drive is fragmented then any large files you write will be dropped in whatever gaps there are, and then that new file will be fragmented. If you do it regularly than it doesn't take long at all.

I just tried mpeg1 ecoded with lagarith lossless and it might be acceptable maybe. So my plan is either to use mpeg2 and then when I'm finished I render it to xvid or wmv.

My other method is to use my dvd ripper to rip small sections to divx avi and then encode it with lagarith...if the memory usage stays at a minimum.

No, the idea is to use lossless footage until it's time for the video to be compressed for distribution. mpeg1 encoded as Lagarith will result in a file that's exactly the same quality as your mpeg1, but several times larger. For the second method you need to rip the DVDs and encode the clips as Lagarith to preserve the quality, and then you edit the video and export it as Lagarith again, and then you compress that to XviD so it isn't a couple of gigabytes in size.

[CrackTheSky]

weird...but when I type ut.ube it types something else lol...hostalchel = that. Dont mind this message i'm just fixing the above

Just so you know, EuToob is not very much liked here, so whenever you type it out it gets filtered and changed into "hosatchel".

Linking there is also not really a good idea.

Just so you know in the future ^_^

[eDiTiX]

So....i think I understand what your saying but let me say it again so we both see eye to eye.

First I rip small video clip sections that I want to put on my amv from my DVD to DIVX AVI format. Than I use lagarith to encode the divx avi format so I can put into vegas because divx is not acceptable in video editing.

However I'm not certain about what you mean when you said export it as lagarith...does vegas let u save it as a lagarith file? Sorry I'm just very very new to all this and its a bit confusing/overwhelming. When you said finally compress it with XVID...do you mean rendering or running it through vdub/mod ?

Btw 100 GB is HD not for AMV.

I'll try to do this but then ur saying that the file will be massive. So if its that big...then I think I'll just go MPEG 2 and then render it in the end with XVID or WMV. Do you got a messenger I need to talk to u haha.

[Scintilla]

First I rip small video clip sections that I want to put on my amv from my DVD to DIVX AVI format. Than I use lagarith to encode the divx avi format so I can put into vegas because divx is not acceptable in video editing.

No, it would be better to rip the clips directly to Lagarith (or HuffYUV, of course) and skip DivX if you can. If they're going to be Lagarith before they get to Vegas anyway, then you might as well cut out the extra round of compression.

However I'm not certain about what you mean when you said export it as lagarith...does vegas let u save it as a lagarith file?

Yes. <a href="/guides/avtech/">EADFAG</a> has a section or two on how to set up an export from Sony Vegas.

And by the way, you do not have 20 GB of <i>anything</i> on your CPU. You have that space on your <i>hard drive</i>.