Download locations:
http://mason.gmu.edu/~bchan/yukiv2toxvid2comp.avi
http://download.yousendit.com/3E3490C236C9BBBC
http://www.500upload.com/download/d5e40884896c
(10mb, yeah its a short amv)
This video is nearly complete (it just needs initial feedback and perhaps some re-doing of certain scenes) and I'd like your thoughts on any scenes that don't seem to be "working". I've tried to make the video sync with both the lyrics and the rythem of the song, while telling a story.
I would make it longer, except I don't have a high quality version of the song I used, plus I don't have the translated lyrics of the full version.
Besides being fairly short, are there any problems with my choice of scenes?
Do you notice any single frame errors that slipped through my editing?
Does the story that I try to tell make sense?
What should I change (if any, but there should be tons)?
Got any suggestions of any scenes that would fit better?
While I don't gurantee giving back opinions, I promise a to make an effort at reviewing a video (post the link in your post) if I get the time (haha this coming from an amv maker eh?).
Thanks in advance.
WIP- Yukikaze: Innocence
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Panky
- Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:57 am
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Hi, it's the first time i saw this post, and i'm gonna see your video, but i don't understand where i can leave you an opinion. Mine's is http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... p?v=130312
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silver_moon
- Joined: Fri Nov 23, 2001 12:46 pm
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Ok, I took a look at your beta and I do have some suggestions:
- I think you needed more crossfades in the start of the video, just to give it a smoother feel. Especially in the first 20 seconds or so.
- The cymbal crash at 0:23 needed to be timed to... I think the scene of the ship flying on the green background should come in right when the cymbal hits, instead of a second before. Same with the cymabl at 0:31, I think a scene should come in on that sound.
- At 0:40 I think you needed another scene to come in to time to the background vocals that start here.
- When the chorus starts at 0:45, and for the rest of the video after that, I think the video needs to go a whole lot faster. It needs a lot more scenes and a lot more scene changes to make the vid match up to the pace of the song there. Also, at 0:44 you should start showing the flying scenes right on the beat when the chorus starts instead of a couple seconds before.
I thought the scene selections were pretty nice. They matched the lyrics well and matched the overall mood of the song. I hoped that helped, and if you could opinion the video in my sig, that would be great.
If you have any questions or want to show me an updated beta later, you can PM me.
- I think you needed more crossfades in the start of the video, just to give it a smoother feel. Especially in the first 20 seconds or so.
- The cymbal crash at 0:23 needed to be timed to... I think the scene of the ship flying on the green background should come in right when the cymbal hits, instead of a second before. Same with the cymabl at 0:31, I think a scene should come in on that sound.
- At 0:40 I think you needed another scene to come in to time to the background vocals that start here.
- When the chorus starts at 0:45, and for the rest of the video after that, I think the video needs to go a whole lot faster. It needs a lot more scenes and a lot more scene changes to make the vid match up to the pace of the song there. Also, at 0:44 you should start showing the flying scenes right on the beat when the chorus starts instead of a couple seconds before.
I thought the scene selections were pretty nice. They matched the lyrics well and matched the overall mood of the song. I hoped that helped, and if you could opinion the video in my sig, that would be great.
If you have any questions or want to show me an updated beta later, you can PM me.
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Panky
- Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:57 am
- Status: dozing...
- Location: some place called Kokomo...
It was a nice combination of lyrics and video. As Silver_Moon said, maybe it would look better if you make that part faster, but i don't see it necessary, it can perfectly match. It would also look more original if you place more transparency effects all over the video, i think so.
Well, if i have to put stars for this video considering 5 the bigger, i would put it a 4,5 ( because i'm not smart enough to be sure if the video is perfect and it deserves 5 stars
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Well, if i have to put stars for this video considering 5 the bigger, i would put it a 4,5 ( because i'm not smart enough to be sure if the video is perfect and it deserves 5 stars
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OniZabuza
- Joined: Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:42 pm
Besides being fairly short, are there any problems with my choice of scenes?
:47 - Big boost in the energy of the music, but yet the visuals dont reflect it at all. Maybe save the speeding jet into the sky for this moment
1:06 - This shot of the guy in the chair, should be introduced earlier in the video. when we see it hear, we have about 20 seconds to piece it all together, try bringing him in earlier. People will go... "huh? ... ohhh!" if that makes sense lol
Do you notice any single frame errors that slipped through my editing?
None I noticed.
Does the story that I try to tell make sense?
I think so. Not particularly clear, but I got it.
What should I change (if any, but there should be tons)?
My biggest complaint was that there is a lot of audio rhythem and that you didn't work with it. For example, especially towards the end, the scene keeps changing in the middle of a bar (musically speaking, a measure) and it feels arbitrary. There is actually quite a lot for you to work with here, try changing scene transitions to end and begin on the bass drum beats or at least the measures
Got any suggestions of any scenes that would fit better?
Nope. i actually really liked this video, very refreshing.
Please op the vid in my sig!
:47 - Big boost in the energy of the music, but yet the visuals dont reflect it at all. Maybe save the speeding jet into the sky for this moment
1:06 - This shot of the guy in the chair, should be introduced earlier in the video. when we see it hear, we have about 20 seconds to piece it all together, try bringing him in earlier. People will go... "huh? ... ohhh!" if that makes sense lol
Do you notice any single frame errors that slipped through my editing?
None I noticed.
Does the story that I try to tell make sense?
I think so. Not particularly clear, but I got it.
What should I change (if any, but there should be tons)?
My biggest complaint was that there is a lot of audio rhythem and that you didn't work with it. For example, especially towards the end, the scene keeps changing in the middle of a bar (musically speaking, a measure) and it feels arbitrary. There is actually quite a lot for you to work with here, try changing scene transitions to end and begin on the bass drum beats or at least the measures
Got any suggestions of any scenes that would fit better?
Nope. i actually really liked this video, very refreshing.
Please op the vid in my sig!
The hottest AMVer you'll ever meet...
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... p?v=126261
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... p?v=126261
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bob64
- Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2004 10:04 pm
Ok, your opinions have been filled out.
I also took your suggestions and tried to implement them:
http://mason.gmu.edu/~bchan/yukiamvxvidv5.avi (latest version, 10mb.)
If you want to compare it with the old version (same version as the one in the first post. This link is a slightly slower mirror, since i can only host 1 file on my fast server): http://bob64.binuweb.com/misc/yukiv2toxvid2comp.avi
I'll guarantee another 3 options to the next 3 people that give me feedback (on the latest version)... Detailed opinions please, the more helpful your opinions are, the more time I spend on yours (assuming the song is tolerable/catchy). Also... try to avoid giving me videos with rock music.
I also took your suggestions and tried to implement them:
http://mason.gmu.edu/~bchan/yukiamvxvidv5.avi (latest version, 10mb.)
If you want to compare it with the old version (same version as the one in the first post. This link is a slightly slower mirror, since i can only host 1 file on my fast server): http://bob64.binuweb.com/misc/yukiv2toxvid2comp.avi
I'll guarantee another 3 options to the next 3 people that give me feedback (on the latest version)... Detailed opinions please, the more helpful your opinions are, the more time I spend on yours (assuming the song is tolerable/catchy). Also... try to avoid giving me videos with rock music.
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staces
- Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2003 12:53 pm
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Hello.
I didn't watch the first version (it's my first time looking at this thread) but I do like your second version.
The things that I like about it is your sense of internal synch, it's always nice to see beats being addressed in a way other than having a scene change. Also, from reading the other feedback, it seems like you addressed all of the symbols and you hit major beats, and that was good. Overall your pacing was nice and even. Also you did well in matching up the footage that you had with what the lyrics meant.
Also, I thought that the way that you did your credits was really cute and original. Sorry that Premiere crashed on you so many times. =( Bummer.
One not bad/not good thing for me was the subtitles. I can see how they're helpful, but for me (and this is only a personal prefernece) they distracted from your video and your story/editing.
Some things that I feel might make this AMV better would be more layers showing footage of the characters. This AMV seems to focus a whole lot on all the machines and stuff, but I found the most interesting parts were the few times that you focused on the characters. So you can still keep what you've got, but put in some more character for the drama maybe?
Also while your beat synch was good, there were a lot of emphasized words and syllabled in the vocals. So maybe you could time layers to those?
On the whole this is a nice AMV, but I think that with a few minor tweaks that it could be a really cool one. Being that it's so short, it gives you a chance to really shine and show what you've got because you don't have to carry it out for 4 and a half minutes. =)
Anyways I hope that helps and good luck. As for the opinion in return, I'd like one for either of the ones in my signature (you can take your pick). Thanks!
I didn't watch the first version (it's my first time looking at this thread) but I do like your second version.
The things that I like about it is your sense of internal synch, it's always nice to see beats being addressed in a way other than having a scene change. Also, from reading the other feedback, it seems like you addressed all of the symbols and you hit major beats, and that was good. Overall your pacing was nice and even. Also you did well in matching up the footage that you had with what the lyrics meant.
Also, I thought that the way that you did your credits was really cute and original. Sorry that Premiere crashed on you so many times. =( Bummer.
One not bad/not good thing for me was the subtitles. I can see how they're helpful, but for me (and this is only a personal prefernece) they distracted from your video and your story/editing.
Some things that I feel might make this AMV better would be more layers showing footage of the characters. This AMV seems to focus a whole lot on all the machines and stuff, but I found the most interesting parts were the few times that you focused on the characters. So you can still keep what you've got, but put in some more character for the drama maybe?
Also while your beat synch was good, there were a lot of emphasized words and syllabled in the vocals. So maybe you could time layers to those?
On the whole this is a nice AMV, but I think that with a few minor tweaks that it could be a really cool one. Being that it's so short, it gives you a chance to really shine and show what you've got because you don't have to carry it out for 4 and a half minutes. =)
Anyways I hope that helps and good luck. As for the opinion in return, I'd like one for either of the ones in my signature (you can take your pick). Thanks!
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bob64
- Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2004 10:04 pm
Thanks, your opinion is up.
I just came up with an interesting idea on the subtitles bit. Perhaps I should try using the MKV/MP4/OGM containers such that the subtitles are included soft-subbed. Thus being completely optional and up to the personal preference of the viewer.
(For me, I hate it when I can't understand a song that sounds interesting, which was why I put em in the first place... also gives that karaoke fansub feel..., but I understand where your coming from.)
Good point about the characters. I sorta strayed further from the parallelism of the pilot and the plane then I intended... My next version will try to address that, and perhaps work more on the faster, yet rough, sync in the ending.
I tried to time the clips such that certain actions are triggered right as the emphasized words are spoken. What words do you think I missed emphasizing?
If anyone else has some feedback, please post it. The more feedback I get, the more I improve my skills (which I might note, this is my first attempt with any sort of video editing software outside of virtualdub re-encoding... which explains the lack of effects, due to lack of knowlege and ideas on how to impliment them effectively).
(1:1 feedback guranteed, just don't spam this thread with hundreds that I have to do)
I just came up with an interesting idea on the subtitles bit. Perhaps I should try using the MKV/MP4/OGM containers such that the subtitles are included soft-subbed. Thus being completely optional and up to the personal preference of the viewer.
(For me, I hate it when I can't understand a song that sounds interesting, which was why I put em in the first place... also gives that karaoke fansub feel..., but I understand where your coming from.)
Good point about the characters. I sorta strayed further from the parallelism of the pilot and the plane then I intended... My next version will try to address that, and perhaps work more on the faster, yet rough, sync in the ending.
I tried to time the clips such that certain actions are triggered right as the emphasized words are spoken. What words do you think I missed emphasizing?
If anyone else has some feedback, please post it. The more feedback I get, the more I improve my skills (which I might note, this is my first attempt with any sort of video editing software outside of virtualdub re-encoding... which explains the lack of effects, due to lack of knowlege and ideas on how to impliment them effectively).
(1:1 feedback guranteed, just don't spam this thread with hundreds that I have to do)