Awa Pro video discussion

Pwolf · Post by **Pwolf** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:55 pm

dwchang wrote:*goes back to <s>not making AMVs</s> Guild Wars*

fixed

Pwolf

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:23 pm

*goes back to Guild Wars*

WalterScott · Post by **WalterScott** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:58 pm

dwchang wrote:*skims thread*
...
*goes back to not making AMVs*

yeah, go ahead, abandon us... laugh at us...

you itchin for another 3 am phone call methinks?

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:05 pm

outlawed wrote:The AMV has become so big that it has spawned into its own thing. No longer are AMV creators just anime fans who like to make AMVs. The AMV creator has grown into its own. Before his/her primary interest was not only in AMVs but the anime itself. How many of you have taken the time to see more of the classics of yesteryear? How many of you know at least 50% of the new shows which will begin airing in the next anime season come October? How many of you are seeking out information about anime from Japanese sources? Chances are very few.

But how many ANIME FANS in general are/were rabid enough to go to such lengths? I doubt the proportion is much higher than that of AMVers specifically.

Illia Sadri · Post by **Illia Sadri** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:07 pm

WalterScott wrote:
dwchang wrote:*skims thread*
...
*goes back to not making AMVs*
yeah, go ahead, abandon us... laugh at us...

you itchin for another 3 am phone call methinks?

Na, someone needs to raid his place and drag him from his bed and drag him back to the community kicking and screaming!

outlawed · Post by **outlawed** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:02 am

Scintilla wrote:But how many ANIME FANS in general are/were rabid enough to go to such lengths? I doubt the proportion is much higher than that of AMVers specifically.

The % of anime fans currently in this frame is a drop in the bucket compared to the mass that watches anime on usa broadcasts or buys DVDs int he store.

The anime fans who were of this more rabid mindset were a significant portion of the old AMV creators. You have to be pretty into it to drop $600-800 on LDs for a show. Your source options where either that or have connections with a rabid fan who had the sources whether through LD/VHS of the retail release or VHS of the TV airing. I don't know how long you've been interested in anime but I can tell you that one could not just walk into a store and find titles to buy that weren't already done to death in AMVs let alone download footage. Before my time it was an even more elite subset doing this work. There is a big reason a lot of the early AMVs most of us saw were done to stuff like Ranma, BGC, Tenchi (basically Viz, Animeigo, and Streamline): that's all there was released to retail in the USA.

Things changed rapdily in 1999->2000 though. This was the true breakcout of retail anime in the USA. It is only valid that most creators from the "plentiful" era of anime may approach things differently. It is only one of many factors but environment does affect us all.

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:48 pm

Pwolf wrote:
dwchang wrote:*goes back to <s>not making AMVs</s> Guild Wars*
fixed

Pwolf

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Castor Troy wrote:*goes back to Guild Wars*

Welcome to the collective. Say goodbye to all your other hobbies like AMVs

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WalterScott wrote:
dwchang wrote:*skims thread*
...
*goes back to not making AMVs*
yeah, go ahead, abandon us... laugh at us...

you itchin for another 3 am phone call methinks?

I was at Otakon at least : /.

...and yeah I imagine next weekend I will get a slew of late night calls from drunken AWA folks. "Good thing" all my projects and junk are due THIS week...whee!

Illia Sadri wrote:
WalterScott wrote:
dwchang wrote:*skims thread*
...
*goes back to not making AMVs*
yeah, go ahead, abandon us... laugh at us...

you itchin for another 3 am phone call methinks?
Na, someone needs to raid his place and drag him from his bed and drag him back to the community kicking and screaming!

You would be the closest person to be able to do this so...I dare you

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*Goes back to coding his OS Project*
SERIOUSLY :O

WalterScott · Post by **WalterScott** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:38 pm

Well I was waiting till after Connichi for this but it was for naught. Everyone seems to have figured it out anyway...

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... p?v=128624

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:57 pm

Brakus wrote:
Illia Sadri wrote:Brakus, not every video can win.
I know that, but then again, I don't enter Pro to win. I enter to be nominated. By extension, not everybody can be nominated for at least one thing. Still, what videos are being discussed above all the rest? The ones that were nominated. Again I feel like I'm out of the Inner Circle because I've *never* been nominated for *anything* in Pro in the 3 years I've participated.

I know this is not an indication of how well/poorly it will do in later contests; "I Am Fullmetal", my Pro entry from last year, wasn't nominated for anything (not even Character Profile, which I truly believed it should have been nominated in if it weren't for certain other videos), but it still went on to do very well in several contests. Yet even still with those accolades, I still feel left out among my AMV editor peers. One person, discussing Bakuretsu Con's contest where I won Best Drama with that video, went out of his way to diss my video ("The fangirl vote won on this one, the video isn't even canon, that's not how it actually happened in the anime") in favor of another one (that I frankly found boring). It's not like they went, "Oh, that Pro video did win some awards. How about that, I guess he *is* one of us after all."

Actually I know of at least one of what everyone would consider a really good editor who didn't make it into the finalists at all.
Me too. The difference is that they've been nominated before in prior years, and they're already established editors who (I consider) are already in that Inner Circle.

Effects do not make a good video but nor do they ruin one. It can be used well or poorly and that is what should be looked at.
It's easier to understand that among other editors. If only the public at large can understand that, though.

Well, let's be honest here. Alot of us participating in amv contests are in it for the thrill of the competition and the glory, even if we just want a little of it as much as some of us claim that we don't care. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that or else it wouldn't be as fun.

I can completely understand being distraught not making the finals, as I've been in that situation before and will probably encounter it more times as I keep making videos and entering contests.

However, the most important thing is how we take the results of all of this. Regardless how good you think your videos are, there will always be someone who makes something superior in whatever way or some screwy contest politics or tech difficulties that will get in the way. These are the sad facts of life that we have to deal with.

There is no inner circle of editors. There are only editors.

Org Profile · Post by **Vlad G Pohnert** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:01 pm

WalterScott wrote:Well I was waiting till after Connichi for this but it was for naught. Everyone seems to have figured it out anyway...

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... p?v=128624

Like that was hard to guess who did this video... It was quite obvious and pretty much a given

Vlad