Some Other Beginning's End - Real Version (or "Kio Is D

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Some Other Beginning's End - Real Version (or "Kio Is D

Post by Kionon » Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:35 pm

Last June, I released what I thought was Some Other Beginning's End, a Kimagure Orange Road video I had been working on for a couple of years. Instead, what I have had "released" for over a year turns out to be... A BETA. Not even a final or complete beta. Rather, a lower quality, incorrect beta. I'm not precisely sure how I screwed up that much and still didn't notice, but it is what it is. So this is not a remaster, this is the version that was supposed to be premiered originally.

Which of course means much of the complaints in subsequent opinions had already been dealt with. |:

There are a number of things corrected in this version. Aside from it being better quality overall than the XviD beta, it has been temporally smoothed, the picture portions have been de-interlaced, and no footage has been duplicated. For the most part, these are the complaints that showed up in the opinions.

So, I reannounce, for real this time:

Title: Some Other Beginning's End
Anime: Kimagure Orange Road
Band: Semisonic
Song: Closing Time
Codec: x264
Format: MP4

Special thanks to Zero1, Trythil, and CoderJoe for MP4 help. I realize for h264/mp4 the filesize of 72.8MB is HUEG LIKE XBOX, but I swear I deened and all sorts of other nice stuff. |: In addition the audio seems odd, but I've listened to my original source and I can't detect an issue. Someone please tell me if it's more than just my imagination.

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Post by Willen » Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:43 pm

Downloading for GREAT JUSTICE!
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Post by Qyot27 » Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:26 pm

Nice and sweet. :up:

Concerning the audio, a couple things:
1) I had to disassemble the MP4 and reassemble it as an MKV just to hear the audio. I suspect this is because it's not AAC, but MP3 (MPEG-2 Layer 3, anyway). Normally, the audio stream in an MP4 is expected to be AAC.

2) A higher frequency and bitrate for the audio would have sounded better. It wasn't terrible, of course, but there was noticable distortion.

Other than that, there's nothing else technical I could find to point about.
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Post by Kionon » Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:20 pm

Qyot27 wrote:Nice and sweet. :up:

Concerning the audio, a couple things:
1) I had to disassemble the MP4 and reassemble it as an MKV just to hear the audio. I suspect this is because it's not AAC, but MP3 (MPEG-2 Layer 3, anyway). Normally, the audio stream in an MP4 is expected to be AAC.

2) A higher frequency and bitrate for the audio would have sounded better. It wasn't terrible, of course, but there was noticable distortion.

Other than that, there's nothing else technical I could find to point about.
Ah ha. I thought it had been converted to AAC. That explains a lot. I'll fix that.

I knew something was off. I just couldn't place why that was.
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Post by Willen » Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:11 am

This video looks sooooooooo much better now.

And for the record, I had no problems playing it in MPC with ffdshow decoding it. As for the MP3 audio in MP4 container, it is a supported audio format.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4_Part_14

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison ... er_formats

Although since AAC will give you better compression at the same quality and/or better sound quality at the same bitrate, it is preferred over MP3 audio in a MP4 file.
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Post by Willen » Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:13 am

Willen wrote:This video looks so much better now.
fixed. :D
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Post by Shinodude » Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:57 am

damn you kionon the video was a real turn off :( I was hoping to do "somthing" after my bro fell asleep but now I cant, so romantic >.> you do this on purpouse O.O nice vid

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Post by Kaysow » Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:16 am

Qyot27 wrote:A higher frequency and bitrate for the audio would have sounded better. It wasn't terrible, of course, but there was noticable distortion.
Yeah, apart from that there's not much to say. I havent' seen KOR, but I assume it's a Maison Ikkoku-like soap opera without much action or animation to speak of =) Real nicely done, tho I would've liked something more climactic after the cool interlude other than those two standing around, unanimated in the hallway. I guess it's always better if you can relate to the source too.
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Post by Kionon » Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:16 am

Kaysow wrote:Yeah, apart from that there's not much to say. I havent' seen KOR, but I assume it's a Maison Ikkoku-like soap opera without much action or animation to speak of =) Real nicely done, tho I would've liked something more climactic after the cool interlude other than those two standing around, unanimated in the hallway. I guess it's always better if you can relate to the source too.
Although contemporaries (actually, MI was a bit earlier), KOR does have quite a bit of action.

It should be noted that the band scenes are the only scenes not from the first movie. This is something important to know, and yes, it would help if you knew the source. The movie is very slow, very depressing, the end is bittersweet. It's an emotional conclusion to the series, but it isn't "in your face" slapstick romantic comedy that the series is. I changed no speed or duration of any clip in the entire video, other than the freeze frames.

Although by now most people have seen enough about KOR to be spoiled, I am putting my explaination of what I saw and felt with the combination of anime and song in spoiler tags, since it spoils the end of the first movie and parts of the second movie.
Spoiler wrote:Furthermore, it was really important to me to keep that feeling of how the movie progressed. This is not a happy video, per se. It is a hopeful video. But it is really a video that says exactly what the movie itself said. Kyosuke knows he wants to "go home" (metaphorically, like I believe the entire song is) with Madoka, and Hikaru who he does not love and does not share his interests with needs to "go to the place where she belongs" which, of course, ends up being New York. The video is an acknowledgement of Kyosuke's knowledge that the love triangle which the three have held onto throughought high school must come to an end if his relationship with Madoka is to fully begin. This is a beginning that comes from some other beginning's end.
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Post by Kionon » Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:25 pm

Mp4 fixed. Same link.
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