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Post by JudgeHolden » Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:01 pm

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Arigatomina wrote:The dance results are nothing compared to the 17 horror results, or only 80 vids for a huge category like comedy. If there were only 800 comedy vids with 10+ ops, it might make sense to list only the top 80 in the top 10 % list. It's not the number of ops making those lists small - it's the 9.0 cutoff.

Cutting all the lists off at the 9.0 mark took a stagnant list and made it smaller and even more stationary. I still don't see the need for that. Only one person complained that the lists shouldn't go below 9.0 - one complaint and everything changes? Since when? And the top ten description is still claiming to use 10 or more ops as only the necessary qualifier. It should read 10+ ops and a 9+ score.

But, hey, maybe it'll encourage people to make more videos for those unreasonably small categories. We only have 80 really popular comedy vids on this site. That's just sad. It's a clear sign for people to write more ops and make more vids for those neglected areas. The site's too big to have so few worthy vids.
And it's not even a pure 9+ score, but one that is curved ... meaning if you are getting real ops, you have to have far more than 10 ops to get to a 9+ ...... :roll:

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Post by Niotex » Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:04 pm

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Arigatomina wrote:The dance results are nothing compared to the 17 horror results, or only 80 vids for a huge category like comedy. If there were only 800 comedy vids with 10+ ops, it might make sense to list only the top 80 in the top 10 % list. It's not the number of ops making those lists small - it's the 9.0 cutoff.

Cutting all the lists off at the 9.0 mark took a stagnant list and made it smaller and even more stationary. I still don't see the need for that. Only one person complained that the lists shouldn't go below 9.0 - one complaint and everything changes? Since when? And the top ten description is still claiming to use 10 or more ops as only the necessary qualifier. It should read 10+ ops and a 9+ score.

But, hey, maybe it'll encourage people to make more videos for those unreasonably small categories. We only have 80 really popular comedy vids on this site. That's just sad. It's a clear sign for people to write more ops and make more vids for those neglected areas. The site's too big to have so few worthy vids.
And it's not even a pure 9+ score, but one that is curved ... meaning if you are getting real ops, you have to have far more than 10 ops to get to a 9+ ...... :roll:
Even if it was just purely ops then F.E.A.R. would be in the top 10% by a long shot right now...
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Post by BasharOfTheAges » Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:35 pm

Is it that there really is a 9.0 cut-off or is it that the algorythm is fucked up? There isn't a 9.0 cutoff when you look at any time category other than "All."
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Post by Arigatomina » Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:57 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:Is it that there really is a 9.0 cut-off or is it that the algorythm is fucked up? There isn't a 9.0 cutoff when you look at any time category other than "All."
There's some sort of cut-off if you use the 'genre' categories, and it carries on to the 'specific score' sorting for those categories. Ex: No matter what you sort Horror by (originality, effects, review, etc), you only get 17 videos. As far as I can tell the 'sort by specific score' options are just resorting the same videos that fit above the 9.0 cut-off in the original list for that category. Still 17 horror vids, still 80 comedy vids. The same 17 and the same 80? It looks that way. The order changes according to the 'score filter' you pick, but it's still only counting the vids above that original 9.0 cutoff.

If you do the same searches by time, you get scores below 9.0 If there's not supposed to be a 9.0 cutoff, then the main category lists are messed up.

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Post by BasharOfTheAges » Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:13 pm

Arigatomina wrote: If you do the same searches by time, you get scores below 9.0 If there's not supposed to be a 9.0 cutoff, then the main category lists are messed up.
Exactly. That's what i've been saying. There's 2 standards for some reason. Anyone who programmed the scripts want to chime in as to why? Maybe change it...
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Re: Whiny bitching about the top 10%

Post by x_rex30 » Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:58 pm

godix wrote:So I'm poking around looking for good videos and I realize the top 10% sucks royally. There's only 23 videos with enough ops to make the <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... &c=12">top 10% dance</a> list and only one or two of them are less than two years old. We need some fresh blood on the lists. Go download, watch, enjoy, and most importantly op these videos right now:

<a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... 45">Beyond Rhythm</a>

<a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... 4974">Life is Life: La la la la la!</a>

<a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... 78">Spirit of the stage</a> (kinda old but whatever)

<a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... 45">Ayumix: D a y b r e a k</a> (ignore the last track, it's a substandard piece of shit that the editor put almost zero effort into. Trust me, I know this for a fact. Other than that it was decent.)

and whatever else is a good dance video that wasn't part of DDR.
I love all those! O_o I especially got something for the life is life video. Oped it a while back! :D

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Post by godix » Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:38 pm

Odd. I hadn't realized the 9.0 cut off thing. Which, given the weighted scores, really does mean a video would need more than 10 ops to get listed (assuming scores are real instead of all 10s). Well that explains the large lack of videos, especially newer ones, in the catagories.
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Post by Knowname » Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:58 pm

yeah... I hated la la la (mostly cuz Ileia does SO much better vids), didn't see beyond the rhythm (which, ironicaly, was the problem with lalala ;p), saw nothing special about Ayumix, I mean it's great... but look at who made it! Spirit sucks just cuz Eurobeat is SO much better. In fact so is Pincess Maker and Life is Futakoi!

All of these suck cuz of what the creator (creators...) did before it! It's kinda' funny, but you fail, Godix :twisted: :twisted:

I entitled lalala 'Cute girl banners the video!' lol....

here's some that I like from the past 2 years (that probley aren't *Dance* videos though.... I consider dance as anything that gets you off your ass)

Hinatasan's Lineage 2 ~~ Mythic World ~~
MiM's Lupin's Four
POD's sync.kr eastern
EVA-Fan's Bad Luck concert - Memories of love (traditional dance... I guess)
Naruto-Battousi's It's been broughten
Studio KZ's Burning Fasion
Usagi's Shin no Aya
SenshiMamoru'sCartoon Heros (OK I don't like it, but I forget why...)
Silver_Moon's Let's get this party started

I have more but all this is tiring! Anyway, if your looking for good dance videos check these out. Not all 'dance' videos are labeled in the dance category.

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Post by Flint the Dwarf » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:11 am

Dance videos suck.
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Post by Knowname » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:24 am

Flint the Dwarf wrote:Dance videos suck.
^^ (but I'm an amv junky so I can point at a dozen good ones, check em out my friend!)
I entitled lalala 'Cute girl banners the video!' lol....
lol and after re d/ling and watching it, I now remember why lol. A better video probly could be made just by flipping all them cute girl banners together lol.

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