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Post by x_rex30 » Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:18 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:was watching a video once and my husband said "this isnt syncing at all" and i was like "its synced to the vocals" and he was all "oh!" hes an instrumentalist, so he was listening to the instrumental lines, while i was listening to the vocal lines...
Yeah I hate when people do that.. :? it's like they are blind or something. :roll:
either way, mine i usually try to do a combination of both, but i suppose vocals mostly... cause i have had some people tell me that there is no sync in my videos... and that always confuses me...
I'll check some of your videos out to see what you mean.. if you got any specific ones you think are worth checkin' out let me know.

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Post by Zarxrax » Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:23 pm

VicBond syncs to the lyrics sometimes. His shining collection video was one example.

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Post by JaddziaDax » Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:29 pm

any just as long as you avoid my olser ones.....

World of Elegance seems to be getting okay reviews... (newest one)

Pretty Sparkles for some godawful reason people keep giving me feedback on... >.> donno why...

Pocket Change is my other more popular video...

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Post by JaddziaDax » Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:30 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:any just as long as you avoid my older ones.....

World of Elegance seems to be getting okay reviews... (newest one)

Pretty Sparkles for some godawful reason people keep giving me feedback on... >.> donno why...

Pocket Change is my other more popular video...
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Post by x_rex30 » Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:44 pm

Zarxrax wrote:VicBond syncs to the lyrics sometimes. His shining collection video was one example.
I'm sure you may have meant to say vocals there.. but I'll have to download that one to see exactly what you're talking about.

here's another example.. not perfectly synched but if you notice the way the vocalist says home.. it sorta has this sigh in how it is done.. also hard to understand but that is what I was intending to synch here. this is what I intentionally was trying to match up to when I used this scene(the lyrics match the scene.. if you want to see if it does or not download my promises vid..)

http://stormmetropolis.com/clips/Untitled2.avi

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Post by Melanchthon » Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:14 pm

x_rex30 wrote:OK, I know.. it's still a bit hard to understand/see/explain..... :oops:
Nope, I get it totally. I love that sort of synch, be it vocal or instrumental-- it shows that a lot of attention was paid to the audio and video sources.

A couple of vids you might like... don't know how many of them you've seen, as I picked up most of them off forum links. :?

Shining Collection, which has everything but the kitchen synch.
Dry The Rain, which loosely follows the vocals but is more of a mood piece. I particularly like the part about two minutes in, where the change in the instrumental intensity is marked by a change from day to sunset footage.
Asuka's Wonderland. I might be a little biased towards this vid as it was the one that persuaded me to get the rest of the Eva DVDs. It's mostly driven by the strings, but the mood synch is skewed toward the vocals. The 'stand in the night with a silver sword' line was the first thing thing that sprang to mind when I started writing my first reply, but I wanted to check that was what you were after first.
Give It Up For Lord Canti, which is similar to Shining Collection in its synch methods but seems to follow the instrumentals more (which are in synch with the vocals anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter...).
Bachelorette. I'm not sure whether this is really vocal synch or if the vocals just happened to be along for the ride, but it gave me that 'wow' feeling when I watched it and it still does now. Like the clip you just linked to (is the rest of the vid available? It looks good), the editing is fluid and doesn't rely on any one particular kind of synchronisation.

I can't think of any vids that rely on vocal synch as most of the vids around here rely on beat synch and the like, but I don't usually seek out music that lends itself to vocal synch.

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Post by jubjub2 » Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:19 pm

I'm gonna add this one to the list. She's Got A Way

All I had was the piano and vocals to sync to. I tried to use both (as well as some lyric sync), and a lot of the lyrical sync is very subtle.

I'm the same way as Dax (but I can't sing) and sync to the less obvious things in audio when I edit.

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Post by x_rex30 » Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:38 pm

Thanks for the suggestions..

To expand this thread a bit.. don't be shy from a discussion about this sort of synch. This doesn't just have to be a list thread.

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Post by lilgumba » Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:53 pm

I've got that comment before as well when I was syncing to the vocals but people were paying attention to the instruments more. It's only after a couple of watches that they saw what I was syncing to.

When I do my videos I also try to pay attention to the vocal beats as well as the instrumental. I do that because I felt the emphasis was needed on one over the other. My only problem is that sometimes I will switch unexpectedly from one to another and that can throw people off. I kind of did that for my Riceball Love video near the end.

My best two examples of this type of sync might be Tomorrow's Not Today and the video in my sig "Seen a Ghost." Tomorrow's Not Today kind of had to rely on the vocals because everything else in the background was so soft. Same can be applied to the other video. However, they did have instrumental breaks so the videos aren't 100% vocal sync.
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Post by x_rex30 » Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:21 pm

OK, I'm downloading them(damn gotta donate again.. just started getting that damn pledges/donations page + the wait 10 sec ordeal.. :cry: )

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