Entering in non-anime into the "anime" list.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:21 pm

Arigatomina wrote:I know for a fact that last year the admin were fine with members making videos entirely out of their own anime-styled drawings. I don't believe that's changed in the last month. As for why they're okay with entirely hand-drawn (whether original art or manga), you'd have to ask Phade. Last time I asked the question, it was to promote members to make their own anime-inspired source footage.

Actually, <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... 5420">it's apparently okay to make videos entirely out of <i>stick figure</i> drawings</a>. So that can't be the entire reason.

(Yes, I do point this video out every time this issue comes up.)

Org Profile · Post by **Vlad G Pohnert** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:00 pm

Arigatomina wrote:
Vlad G Pohnert wrote:Manga is considered a non-anime source... So is fan art. Nothing wrong with using them and listing them as a source in an AMV PROVIDED that the video has atleast one valid Anime source in it.
Not true.

There are a number of original animation videos on the org, as well as videos made using manga only. It's not a matter of the mods/admin having missed these few, they're as legitimate as anime-only videos. I know for a fact that last year the admin were fine with members making videos entirely out of their own anime-styled drawings. I don't believe that's changed in the last month. As for why they're okay with entirely hand-drawn (whether original art or manga), you'd have to ask Phade. Last time I asked the question, it was to promote members to make their own anime-inspired source footage.

Bottom line, manga and fanart are considered legitimate sources. There's no requirement to have anime footage in the video for it to be hosted on local.

In the past, it was not really addressed (as pretty much all videos just used anime) and so various other things were accepted. Now videos used a lot of sources and the definition of an AMV is harder to peg. BUT, this is the final work that has been discussed with Phade himself and agreed on... Manga is not considered anime as it's a printed mediun and not animated. Fan art fall in the same category in general. Anyone who feels thier video still is an AMV, then we are open to it on a case by case basis.

The "bottom line" as it has been dicussed is that atleast one anime source is required to be an AMV. As there are thousands of entires and animes listed on this site, I'm sure there are sources that are listed as acceptable the technically are not anime. It's a huge database...

Vlad

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:49 pm

Vlad G Pohnert wrote:The "bottom line" as it has been dicussed is that atleast one anime source is required to be an AMV. As there are thousands of entires and animes listed on this site, I'm sure there are sources that are listed as acceptable the technically are not anime. It's a huge database...

I get it. It's like the no downloaded footage rule. It's not allowed, they know you're doing it anyway, and everything's cool that way.

This is still the first I've heard that 'technically' original animation isn't allowed without some anime mixed in, and the topic has come up a lot before this. I don't like knowing I broke the rules and everyone who replied to the announcement thread failed to inform me of it. They need to put a note of that in the rules somewhere, and start deleting those videos that are openly pimped for using only these sources. We've had actual threads about vids using only manga and not once were we told, by the way, that video breaks the rules and will (should) be deleted.

When I break the rules, I at least want to be told about it. Not after the fact like this.

Tsunami Jones · Post by **Tsunami Jones** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:54 pm

We've been debating about this for quite awhile. But, last I knew, original animation was still a viable source.

Org Profile · Post by **Vlad G Pohnert** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:09 pm

From my understanding, original animation is fine so as long as it's done by the member and in anime style... Otherwise that could just about include anything... the debate mainly was on video games, manga and fan art.

And Yes, I fully agree that the rules and what exactly defines what is an AMV needs to be updated... Something that will definitely be discussed.

Vlad

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:25 pm

I thought that "must include some anime" rule applied only to AMVs that used live-action footage, like some of the trailers I've seen. Otherwise, I don't see how On Your Mark is any more viable an AMV than other Original Animation videos. On Your Mark isn't on the Local server, but it would be allowed, right?

Willen · Post by **Willen** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:20 pm

Well, the Daicon IV Opening is listed...

[Mike of the Desert] · Post by **[Mike of the Desert]** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:56 am

SQ wrote:Well, for combination of non-anime and anime videos, how much anime has to be in the video for it ot be on local?

Like I said, last time I looked there was no requirement aside from "it has to be IN the video", so technically, you oculd have 1 frame of anime and upload it.

Is there a percentage rule now, or is it still the honor system?

There is a clear rule that says that the video must contain at least the 80% of anime in it. Only a Maximum of the 20% can be live action.

The rest is all been already said, interesting discussion, though.

[Mike of the Desert] · Post by **[Mike of the Desert]** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:03 pm

I was not sure of what I said and.. Actually there isn't that rule, I'm sure that once I read it somewhere, maybe they simply removed it, but even though:

2.The video is an anime music video. For the purposes of this site, an anime music video is defined as a music video where the majority of the footage comes from anime. For the purposes of this site, anime-style video game cut scenes (such as Final Fantasy) are considered "anime".

The second rule when entering a new video on the catalog says "an anime music video is defined as a music video where the majority of the footage comes from anime.", so, at least the 51% of the Music Video must have anime footage.

When the anime footage is under that percentage, technically the video could even not be entered into the catalog.

Xie · Post by **Xie** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:30 pm

Nothing to do with that, but I would like to enter a new anime in the anime list. As I'm really (really and really) a nut with all these rules (in fact I don't understand all of them because I'm a nut in english too), I want to be certain that I'm not going to make a mistake...

Noein - Mou Hitori no Kimi e

This is the name of this anime...so could I enter it in this anime list ?