Entering in non-anime into the "anime" list.

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Entering in non-anime into the "anime" list.

Post by SQ » Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:06 pm

Okay, I've a question.

I'd like to put in my non-anime videos into the database via info pages and links to off-site sources(not local downloads).

I know the anime list has confirmed non-anime on it, and so I was wondering, can we add non-anime to the anime list and still, y'know, have it show up?
I know it's frowned upon but I was just wondering.

Also, if someone were to make a music video, a live-action music video, where all the people in the video were cosplaying as a certain anime, and it's characters, and mimicking the story, would that allow a local download or a list of the anime?

I remember someone doing original artwork of Full Metal Alchemist, and that was all their footage was, and they said they got the okay to upload it to the .org AND list the anime instead of simply "Original artwork".

I figured the cosplaying thing was the same, but thought I should ask first.

Thanks for help in advance. =)
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Re: Entering in non-anime into the "anime" list.

Post by Scintilla » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:12 pm

SQ wrote:I'd like to put in my non-anime videos into the database via info pages and links to off-site sources(not local downloads).
You're still not supposed to do that, even if you don't give any links at all.
SQ wrote:I know the anime list has confirmed non-anime on it, and so I was wondering, can we add non-anime to the anime list and still, y'know, have it show up?
I know it's frowned upon but I was just wondering.
The way I see it, it's not so much an "anime list" as a "source list" (all those AMVs that use non-anime sources for some scenes still have to credit those sources, after all); sure it'll show up, but it will be marked as confirmed non-anime.
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Post by Arigatomina » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:25 pm

SQ wrote:I remember someone doing original artwork of Full Metal Alchemist, and that was all their footage was, and they said they got the okay to upload it to the .org AND list the anime instead of simply "Original artwork".
That's fanart - you have to list the anime because to claim it as 'original' is to claim credit for the characters the anime creator made up. But the art is still original (unless it's traced), so you list both the anime and 'original artwork'.

Why that's okay - something about wanting to encourage members to make their own anime. So you can draw stick figures and claim it's 'anime-style' original animation and then put it on local. But if a non-japanese non-org member makes the same original anime-style video, it's not allowed to be listed here. It's just a little double standard is all. Cosplay is still live action footage. Now if you want to draw the people who are cosplaying and put it up as original anime-style artwork, you can do that. Just be sure to list the actual anime being used as the source of the characters being drawn so it's legitimate fanwork.

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Post by SQ » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:35 pm

Interesting.

So.. How many frames or seconds of anime has to be in the video for it to be allowed on local? ;)

Last I remember, it(anime) had to just be "in" the video.
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Post by Vlad G Pohnert » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:39 pm

If you have some non-anime sources in a AMV, then that's fine to list them, BUT please don't add non-anime sources for non-anime videos. This is an AMV site and we don't wat to have to manage non-anime sources and video.

Manga is considered a non-anime source... So is fan art. Nothing wrong with using them and listing them as a source in an AMV PROVIDED that the video has atleast one valid Anime source in it.

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Post by Tsunami Jones » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:41 pm

SQ wrote:So.. How many frames or seconds of anime has to be in the video for it to be allowed on local? ;)
There's no "set" limit. If we set one, people would put in X amount of anime just so they could upload it.

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Post by Vlad G Pohnert » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:43 pm

SQ wrote:Interesting.

So.. How many frames or seconds of anime has to be in the video for it to be allowed on local? ;)

Last I remember, it(anime) had to just be "in" the video.
Considering this is an AMV site, the video should focus on anime.. The exact percentage of it in the video is not really defined, however if you want to be sure, an AMV should feature anime in some form for atleast half of the video...

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Post by SQ » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:43 pm

Well, for combination of non-anime and anime videos, how much anime has to be in the video for it ot be on local?

Like I said, last time I looked there was no requirement aside from "it has to be IN the video", so technically, you oculd have 1 frame of anime and upload it.

Is there a percentage rule now, or is it still the honor system?
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Post by SQ » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:43 pm

I posted the above post before your last post showed up. >_<
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Post by Arigatomina » Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:54 pm

Vlad G Pohnert wrote:Manga is considered a non-anime source... So is fan art. Nothing wrong with using them and listing them as a source in an AMV PROVIDED that the video has atleast one valid Anime source in it.
Not true.

There are a number of original animation videos on the org, as well as videos made using manga only. It's not a matter of the mods/admin having missed these few, they're as legitimate as anime-only videos. I know for a fact that last year the admin were fine with members making videos entirely out of their own anime-styled drawings. I don't believe that's changed in the last month. As for why they're okay with entirely hand-drawn (whether original art or manga), you'd have to ask Phade. Last time I asked the question, it was to promote members to make their own anime-inspired source footage.

Bottom line, manga and fanart are considered legitimate sources. There's no requirement to have anime footage in the video for it to be hosted on local.

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