Where does the dumpy loser image anime has come from
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Where does the dumpy loser image anime has come from
And why do people propagate it. Not everyone is proud of being part of something that encourages grown men to dress up like sailor moon.
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Not only that, but I've also met one of the said large guys who's fond of dressing up as Sailor Mercury at cons, and greatly enjoyed talking to him for a couple of hours. And he seems to have a rather decent life, mind you.Scintilla wrote:And where do you see people propogating it? I can't remember ever meeting an anime fan who was a dumpy loser.
It's all relative. My interest in history is often considered to be dorky by the wider society; I consider this 'wider society' pathetic for not wanting to know.
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Biologically speaking, it is. I know anime is geeky, but it doen't have to be that way. If people would stop all the cosplay, chibi, engrish, overly happy or cute and all that stuff then anime would be something that could be taken seriously. It seems like a choice to me.
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I wouldn't argue with the fact that for most people who aren't so into it, these people do indeed seem strange no matter how you look at it. And yes, the "inherent and delineated" around anime does get on some people's nerves.
But I think the problem with anime 'not being taken seriously' in the West still has more to do with the average person's attitude to 'cartoons' than with the otakuist zealaousness.
Personally, I understand the hardcore 'otaku' quite well, but in the last couple of years I've been intentionally distancing myself from them (this forum is as close as I get to the anime fan community lately). And yet I can still take anime seriously. Nor do I mind being seen as a dork on occasion. 'Dork' is a relative term, anyway; where I come from, it's not a fault - it's a social obligation
But I think the problem with anime 'not being taken seriously' in the West still has more to do with the average person's attitude to 'cartoons' than with the otakuist zealaousness.
Personally, I understand the hardcore 'otaku' quite well, but in the last couple of years I've been intentionally distancing myself from them (this forum is as close as I get to the anime fan community lately). And yet I can still take anime seriously. Nor do I mind being seen as a dork on occasion. 'Dork' is a relative term, anyway; where I come from, it's not a fault - it's a social obligation

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I can take anime seriously, no problem, I just have a hard time keeping a straight face when told about some of the new things the anime community came up with. Gothiloli and Nevada-tan cosplay are some of the more freakish examples.
For those who don't know, Nevada-tan, also called Girl A is a japanese schoolgirl that killed a classmate of hers with a cutter knife for no reason whatsoever. She has become an idol in the anime community, spawning tons of fanart and fiction. And if you're wondering about Nevada-tan, it's cause the sweater she was wearing that day said Nevada on it.
For those who don't know, Nevada-tan, also called Girl A is a japanese schoolgirl that killed a classmate of hers with a cutter knife for no reason whatsoever. She has become an idol in the anime community, spawning tons of fanart and fiction. And if you're wondering about Nevada-tan, it's cause the sweater she was wearing that day said Nevada on it.
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