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devilmaykickass · Post by **devilmaykickass** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:23 am

CerebralAssamite wrote:I'm not with AOL, I dont like in that country, there are other places on this big blue planet apart from America...

lol

Pwolf · Post by **Pwolf** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:34 pm

Infinity Squared wrote:Technically speaking, editing should be better in a Mac and *should* yield better results comparing it to a PC with similar specs.

you should've said somethign on the lines of better performance or faster rendering (is it true? i dunno). "better results" is a bad choice of words becuase the result is pretty much the same, it how it was achieved.

now lets also remember then #1 thing about editing... it's the editor not the tools. just becuase you have a computer that is "fast" or an expensive program doesn't mean you can make good videos or make them better then the next guy/gal. Macs may be better at number crunching, but id rather sacrifce some extra processing power(if there is any) for my pc and the programs that i use with it. i know how to use them and that is what makes me a better editor. now i just need to find some more creativity and i'll be set -_-

Pwolf

JCD · Post by **JCD** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:37 pm

I have Final Cut Pro, I just don't have a mac

(won it at a contest)

However, I have read the manual, it seems to be really flexible, it seems clear that it was aimed for final film-editing. It has some little advantages like YUV editing and some things are easier, others harder to do, but I don't find a single point though that clearly puts it ahead of Vegas or Premiere & Photoshop. Possibilites like ones you have in AE even seem to be out of it's reach (even though you can import and use some AE-plugins in FCP). But for that you have Apple Motion and maybe even Apple Shake

Still, I don't think I would use a mac for editing, mostly because I'll miss features like Avisynth, VirtualDub and some codecs.

ProphetDK · Post by **ProphetDK** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:22 pm

Well, depends on what you want to use. The only thing that I have problems on the mac are Codecs that are fun like Xvid. For that I export to a PC and crunch it there.

Wipes, cuts and fancy overlays... all can be done with PC and Mac Software...

madbunny · Post by **madbunny** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:35 pm

Here is an article that covers the very same topic, from a video editing standpoint.

WhereNext · Post by **WhereNext** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:48 pm

its true that macs used to have a large advantage when it came to doing professional audio and video work. But with the new array of products available for pc now it just isn't true. And besides, you can get even more in depth programs than final cut, like Avid (which also happens to be the professional film standard for editing) which can be run on pc, or mac ( think it runs on mac too, i've only worked with it on pc). But it comes with a huge learning curve, and a hefty price tag for a workstation ($10,000-$20,000).

Bottom line is though, that nowadays, mac doesn't carry dominance over video editng. That was more of back in the day when adobe products were strictly mac.

Pie Row Maniac · Post by **Pie Row Maniac** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:53 pm

I use what I'm used to using.

Infinity Squared · Post by **Infinity Squared** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 3:55 am

Pwolf wrote:you should've said somethign on the lines of better performance or faster rendering (is it true? i dunno). "better results" is a bad choice of words becuase the result is pretty much the same, it how it was achieved.

Yeah, those were the words. I just hoped the rest of that post made sense enough in context because I did say as well, like most people, it's up to the user of the tool to do the magic.

bum · Post by **bum** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:16 am

CerebralAssamite wrote:Telstra is my isp not optusnet.. last I checked they weren't compatable but Im spammed on msn that they are.. so whatever ill look into it.

If the two largest telco's in australia didnt support linux thier would be something seriosly wrong. Unless an ISP requirs you to use their specific software (AOL) for some stupid (AOL) reason then an is]'s services have nothing to do with your operating system. Most likely your using an internal 56k modem, which can be a bitch to get runing under linux.

Ashyukun · Post by **Ashyukun** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:43 am

WhereNext wrote: And besides, you can get even more in depth programs than final cut, like Avid (which also happens to be the professional film standard for editing) which can be run on pc, or mac ( think it runs on mac too, i've only worked with it on pc). But it comes with a huge learning curve, and a hefty price tag for a workstation ($10,000-$20,000).

*shudder* I honestly really feel for people who have to edit with Avid systems. I got the 'opportunity' to edit together a wedding video on the professional avid setup where my ex-wife works over a weekend (was mac-based- Avid started out as a mac-only program IIRC) and I came out of it loathing the program. I think the only reason the Avid has remained the standard is because it seems to do everything the way they used to be done when editing involved literally cutting and pasting film together, and once all the people who used to do it that way die off the less archaic programs will become the norm (FCP is already making considerable in-roads I believe). I'd take Premiere or Vegas (or FCP, which I've never used but looks far more user friendly) over an Avid system any day. Granted the setup did have some up-sides like being capable of editing to and from digi-beta for broadcast, but that was as much the hardware of the setup as the software.

Personally, I'd love nothing better than to have a MiniMac and a copy of FCP to play around with and see how I liked it (If you don't want that copy of it JCD, I'll happily take it

Well, assuming it's not in German, that would be a bit harder for me to use, though not impossible). I'm all for learning new things. That and MiniMacs are just really cute little things....