Opinion score relativity

Hax · Post by **Hax** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:28 am

Should opinion scores be relative to other AMVs or to what is physically possible?

Since that's a bit cryptic, let me give my example. I recently reviewed an AMV, and the video quality was VHS. However, it didn't look that bad for VHS, and I'm 99% sure that this particular anime was never released on DVD.

Should I have given him a high score for doing what they could with it? Or are they doomed to a low video score even though there's nothing they could do about it

Infinity Squared · Post by **Infinity Squared** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:44 am

Hmm... interesting dilema.

Well, for such a situation, I would probably have to have known that such extenuating circumstances exist. Otherwise, automatically I would have judged it based on what is already available and what I have seen.

But if you think about it, the video quality score is very much just dependant on what you see right there and then (objectively speaking anyway). Therefore, we are suppose to make up our minds based only on the evidence on hand, no matter the circumstances present.

In the end, I doubt I'll score it any extra higher based on knowing that fact, as oppose to what I think it deserves in terms of comparing it to other video qualities.

Keeper of Hellfire · Post by **Keeper of Hellfire** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:41 am

You should score for visual quality only on what you see. Explain it in the op if it makes you feel better. And if you know that it is VHS-source and it looks good for being VHS-source, you can honor this in effort.

ssj4lonewolf · Post by **ssj4lonewolf** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:29 am

good point thats how it should be. vhs quality should be based on vhs standards.

[Mike of the Desert] · Post by **[Mike of the Desert]** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:30 pm

A good question... Sure even if the score would not be the top that work should surely have some plus for the effort for what they done.

lilgumba · Post by **lilgumba** » Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:05 pm

Lately I haven't really ran into that problem but I know when I first came here there were videos that were done two vcr instead of on the computer. You go through different techniques so things can't always look the same. I try to take into consideration how the video was made if possible when giving an opinion. I guess you could semi compare this to a person who uses movie maker 1 vs premiere or something. I knew that movie maker 1 would not be as good as premiere (usually) so I try to take that into account especially with compression issues. I guess I'm saying I am treating them like apples, pineapples, and oranges. They all fall into the fruit category but they are technically different.

FoxJones · Post by **FoxJones** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:18 am

I would score it as a VHS-source. Meaning that if it's good quality even though one can clearly see it's from a VHS source I'd give it about 8 or even a 9, when same level quality DVD-source AMV would be 6 or most likely 7.

madbunny · Post by **madbunny** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:59 pm

Score the video based on what you see. It's up to the creator to put forth what they consider to be the cleanest version that they can. You can always give them points in effort or overall to offset it.

If you want to compare one video to another, then you're just making it more complicated than it has to be. For example; we don't have a separate score for fansubs -vs- DVD either.

Al'x · Post by **Al'x** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:19 pm

Take off points if it looks worse than a DVD even though it is a VHS.

After all, you wouldn't be more generous if you could tell it was a fansub, or less generous if you could tell it was an HD-DVD.

[Mike of the Desert] · Post by **[Mike of the Desert]** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:19 pm

madbunny wrote:Score the video based on what you see. It's up to the creator to put forth what they consider to be the cleanest version that they can. You can always give them points in effort or overall to offset it.

If you want to compare one video to another, then you're just making it more complicated than it has to be. For example; we don't have a separate score for fansubs -vs- DVD either.

x2

Everyone has his way to judge this is clear, but mines as I said before coincide with madbunny's, the score quality will be low or high depending on what I see in the moment without think in the source, Then I'll see what the source and the work they done can give in others categories. =)