Quality or Quantity?

ssj4lonewolf · Post by **ssj4lonewolf** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:17 am

agreed, if maximum effort wasnt put into the amv in the first place why bother putting it out on the market for ppl to op. If u didnt do ur best job on it then its pointless.

Arcane Azmadi wrote:Actually, wouldn't it be more accurate to say "Quality is remembered, quantity is ignored"?

u got damn right.

but in the end as long as ur having fun, no matter what amv u put out, who gives a rats ass what ppl think about it. If ur afraid of what others might say, ask yourself a question, "Did I do my best?", if not then u know whats comming.

paizuri · Post by **paizuri** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:05 pm

Personally I believe truly creative and inspired editors can't help but churn out lots of videos. Will that guarantee that they will all be masterpieces? Or even any masterpieces? No, but there may be a few.

Then again, there may be those editors with mild (or not-so mild) cases of OCD that will essentially keep creating the same video over and over again.

So it goes both ways I guess. However, if you create a lot of videos, over time you will at least start to maintain a minimum level of technical competency.

But really, make as many videos as you want. Scrap them if they're not working out the way you want them to, but don't not finish them because you don't think they'll be popular or critically acclaimed. That'd be silly.

anneke · Post by **anneke** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:55 pm

It also seems alot of people are thinking that quantity = crap.

I don't think Quantity is a bad thing. I look at some creators and see the massive amount of Quantity they have, and it's good quality over all.

Take two creators, one (Creator X) who has only 1 or 2 high quality videos, and another creator (Creator Y) who has 20+ videos that are all pretty good, but just not at the same 'quality' as Creator X.

Which then is the better creator?

I've seen alot of people on this forum, where if you make one good video your given alot of aclaim, but people who constently turn out pretty good stuff are ignored. You have to have that one great video to be a good creator, which I don't find true.

People put so much weight on Quality, but watching AMVs (like in a contest) would you rather just watch 2 videos, 10 minutes of videos that were really good and that's it for the contest, or would you rather be able to watch 2+ hours of videos that are all enjoyable, but maybe not as stunning as the 2 quality videos.

I'm just raising points of discussion. (Not trying to complain).

Anneke

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:59 pm

I really wish I could produce more quantity to get all the ideas I have out of my head but........ I'm lazy.

mikestrife · Post by **mikestrife** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:02 pm

anneke wrote:It also seems alot of people are thinking that quantity = crap.

I don't think Quantity is a bad thing. I look at some creators and see the massive amount of Quantity they have, and it's good quality over all.

Take two creators, one (Creator X) who has only 1 or 2 high quality videos, and another creator (Creator Y) who has 20+ videos that are all pretty good, but just not at the same 'quality' as Creator X.

I've been looking at it from the extremes. People who have actually specified I'm just going to put out as many videos as I can usually do have bad vids, but people who say I wanna put out the best video I can do have great videos.

For someone to have alot of good videos, I think that just means they've found a good balance between the two.

requiett · Post by **requiett** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:26 pm

The reason I'm trying to tell you this is a pretentious conversation is because you're attempting to classify a really subjective topic with only two variables: QUALITY and QUANTITY. I was just under the impression that this was a community about individual and free ideas, not broad generalizations. I'm shocked at all the long-ass responses to this thread. I thought you people were smarter than this.

Flint the Dwarf · Post by **Flint the Dwarf** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:42 pm

requiett wrote:you're attempting to classify a really subjective topic with only two variables... I'm shocked at all the long-ass responses to this thread. I thought you people were smarter than this.

And if you'd bother to read any of those long-ass responses, you'd see that people know this is a subjective topic with two variables, and each has opinions about it. The topic is as intelligent or unintelligent as the discussion dictates, and when people like you come in and shit all over the place, it's bound to be unintelligent. Intelligent conversation usually starts with a generalization, and then people pick it apart.

It's already been stated in this thread several times that "quality" can be different for different people.

Beowulf · Post by **Beowulf** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:35 pm

Quantity != lots of bad videos.

Fluxmeister in 2001-2003 cranked out a video a month that was better than 99% of any video you'd seen. Some people go slow, some people go fast, some people suck, some people rock.

But, its a good general rule that slower = better and faster = worse.

There are notable exceptions however, such as WTF by Fluxmeister that was made in 2 days and is quite possibly the best video in history.

downwithpants · Post by **downwithpants** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:37 pm

recently, ive been goin weighting quantity> quality to meet some deadlines. otherwise i usually don't rush and i produce in fairly low quantity. at the same time my quality isn't too high either, but that's not by choice.

as a viewer, quality > quantity. studies have shown that the intensity of pleasure/pain of a stimulus is more strongly correlated with how pleasant/painful the subject remembers it than how long (analagous to quantity of pleasure/pain samplings) the stimulus is. i'd rather see one great vid than a bunch of ok ones.

staces wrote:I've seen some creators who have massive quantities of crap videos, and they've been making crap videos for years and will probably always make crap videos. But what gets me are the creators who have 5 or less videos, that they spent months making each one that are as equally crappy as the vids of the creators with lots. I mean, those "quality" over quantity people actually had to try to suck.

it could be that the low quantity creators have these things called lives.

anneke · Post by **anneke** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:25 pm

The thread wasn't to try and put everything into just two variables, but to discuss AMVs and AMV creation based on those two various in the hopes that people would look beyond the 'standard' deffinition and qualifications or sterotypes that people put to those variables.

I think this thread has been very interesting, and intellegent. Where Quantity doesn't = Good or Bad.

I think we can still discuss more on Quality...

So does time spent = Quality?

I have to wonder about this as the videos I've won awards with have taken far less time on average then videos I spent alot of time on and figured would win awards but didn't.

Anneke