how long is too long

cortinator · Post by **cortinator** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:11 am

i was just wondering what you guys thought would be a long video

i ask because i am making a video of the chunnin exam in naruto its not finished yet but its looking to be 10-12 min long

dokool · Post by **dokool** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:27 am

a 10-12 minute video is fine if it's a multi-editor project, but if it's a single editor I wouldn't watch over 6 minutes or so.

x_rex30 · Post by **x_rex30** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:35 am

dokool wrote:a 10-12 minute video is fine if it's a multi-editor project, but if it's a single editor I wouldn't watch over 6 minutes or so.

Is that just knowing it's done by one person? How close minded.

dokool · Post by **dokool** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:56 am

x_rex30 wrote:
dokool wrote:a 10-12 minute video is fine if it's a multi-editor project, but if it's a single editor I wouldn't watch over 6 minutes or so.
Is that just knowing it's done by one person? How close minded.

Any editing style, no matter how good, gets tedious after a while - this is why cons have 6-minute limits. I think the longest solo vid I've ever managed to watch the whole way through is Wonka's Die For Me (I *think* that's the title), and I've never watched it the whole way through since. It's an amazing video... but it's also brutal to watch multiple times, and I think most people would agree with me.

When you have an MEP, there's a drastic change in style ever 30 seconds or every 2 minutes or whatever, which is why you can watch DDR or Animix and not get bored.

staces · Post by **staces** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:57 am

The only problem that I have with long AMVs (longer than 5 minutes) is that the file size gets larger and larger and I'm sure that my fellow dial-up users know the pain of trying to download a file larger than 80mb without something going wrong. =/

x_rex30 · Post by **x_rex30** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:59 am

Urban Ragnarok is over 8 minutes long, and that video never get's old to me.

dokool · Post by **dokool** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:05 am

x_rex30 wrote:Urban Ragnarok is over 8 minutes long, and that video never get's old to me.

And that's good for you. jBone and Wonka are also on a very short list of editors who can singlehandedly edit 8+ minutes and not suck. If every 'Org member put their best effort into a 10-minute solo video, <1% would be good enough to watch repeatedly.

You call it closed-mindedness, I call it "it's damned hard for an editor to <i>make</i> a 10-minute video, much less for a viewer used to 3-4 minute videos to sit through it."

x_rex30 · Post by **x_rex30** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:08 am

I never said it was easy, but I did say it could be good. What I cant understand is people watching a short video in loops, now that gets old. An 8 minute song or an 8 minute video is a lot less repetitive and boring to listen/watch in loops than something that's like a minute or so long..

dokool · Post by **dokool** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:14 am

x_rex30 wrote:I never said it was easy, but I did say it could be good.

Can be, but often isn't. Plus this is <b>cortinator's</b> first video, and if he's still reading this thread I'd suggest he not choose such an ambitious first project...

x_rex30 wrote:What I cant understand is people watching a short video in loops, now that gets old. An 8 minute song or an 8 minute video is a lot less repetitive and boring to listen/watch in loops than something that's like a minute or so long..

Instant gratification makes for high replay value - shorter videos are simply easier to get right, and when a short vid gets everything right (for example a DDR Project segment) then it's very replayable. Also videos that are shorter tend to be more upbeat (examples that immediately come to mind are Rozard's Price To Fly, AtomX's Why...Can't...I..., Scintilla's Waka Lala w/ Osaka, etc) and are just plain fun to watch multiple times.

x_rex30 · Post by **x_rex30** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:29 am

I listen to music that tends to get things right even more so than your average 4 minute song, and there around 7-8 minutes long. Specifically in a lot of trance you would hear since it focuses a lot on build up and trance is usually the type of gender that gets more described as upbeat music than other types of music. That's kinda funny since trance music has some of the most lengthy songs.