Anything you can do, I can do better?

[staces]

What I fail to understand about this whole dilemma is why it is psued-stealing that must be credited when only one other AMV has been done to the same combo, yet the half a dozen NGE AMVs to "In the End" or all of the FMA vids to "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" don't have to credit each other. =/

Some ideas/anime-song pairings are so damn obvious that they could be done more times than one and the creators could be totally unaware of it. I mean, why credit the first person to do something if you had no clue until after you were done that the idea was being recycled?

Also, why mention the "original" creator, because even if worded politely, the meaning behind it is basically "this dupe had the idea first and their AMV kinda sucks so I redid it way better and am now mentioning their sorry ass under the pretense of being a nice person"

[-Cye-]

What I fail to understand about this whole dilemma is why it is psued-stealing that must be credited when only one other AMV has been done to the same combo, yet the half a dozen NGE AMVs to "In the End" or all of the FMA vids to "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" don't have to credit each other. =/

Some ideas/anime-song pairings are so damn obvious that they could be done more times than one and the creators could be totally unaware of it. I mean, why credit the first person to do something if you had no clue until after you were done that the idea was being recycled?

Also, why mention the "original" creator, because even if worded politely, the meaning behind it is basically "this dupe had the idea first and their AMV kinda sucks so I redid it way better and am now mentioning their sorry ass under the pretense of being a nice person"

Did you read the original post? This guy obviously knows about the "original" creator and said "I would never have heard the song if not for that AMV and I intend to finish my amv that has the same song and the same footage source (Final Fantasy X and X-2) but my idea and clip use is completely different. I don't do one thing that was similar to the other artist. " He should simply say "I got the idea for this music video from _____'s video." or something along those lines.

[staces]

Did you read the original post? This guy obviously knows about the "original" creator and said "I would never have heard the song if not for that AMV and I intend to finish my amv that has the same song and the same footage source (Final Fantasy X and X-2) but my idea and clip use is completely different. I don't do one thing that was similar to the other artist. " He should simply say "I got the idea for this music video from _____'s video." or something along those lines.

Gee, I didn't, oopsie! I mean like who actually reads posts when they can pull random unrelated statements out of their ass? Heh ha.

-_- Seriously though, I meant the concept of duplicate/redone AMVs in general.

[-Cye-]

Gee, I didn't, oopsie! I mean like who actually reads posts when they can pull random unrelated statements out of their ass? Heh ha.

-_- Seriously though, I meant the concept of duplicate/redone AMVs in general.

Obviously if you don't know about other creators that used the same song/anime as you, you can't credit them. And if you do know about them but they didn't motivate your video, there's no real reason to credit them, as they didn't add anything to your video or facilitate it in any way. There's also no reason for the super obvious or repeatedly done amv's to credit each other, it's pretty much like patents, you can't patent something that's too obvious. But I don't really know what any of this has to do with the original poster's situation.

[JaddziaDax]

Full Metal Alchemist and Boulivard of Broken Dreams FOREVER!!!!

hahah it had been done 12 times by the time me and my friends decided to play with the idea... we werent satisfied with anyone's version of it, so we made our own messed up version lol!! hahahahahahaha

i tend to lose interest if i know its been done before though...

unless their vid really pisses me off and i feel the need to make it better (example they use one of my favorite songs, and favorite animes, and really mess it up/dont use any good sequences or anything that is good at all...) I wanted to do Utena to Moulin Rouge - Roxanne till i see that it had been done twice... and well one even inspired the other... and I am still tempted to do my own version of it, though my vid idea wasnt inspired by either, i thaught of it, looked it up, watched them, ect... though i might lose interest I donno.. but this is why i look things up... granted this has no bearing i suppose on the question... but i am still ammused/surprised when people try to out do me... its fun seeing what others do with an idea.

[FoxJones]

3. Call me an idealist, but I think Concept is more important than song anime combo in terms of influencing the final product.

Idealist..

I still think anime/song combination is the most important thing, which breeds the concept that could (will be) be altered later on.

[Sammy]

Well, thats why no one will ever make videos using music I use. I edited the crap out of excalibur, and no one even thinks of using the song, cause they know they cant do any better.

[Flint the Dwarf]

Or maybe the music you listen to is too shitty for a decent editor to stand for more than a few minutes.

[SuperS4]

Well, thats why no one will ever make videos using music I use. I edited the crap out of excalibur, and no one even thinks of using the song, cause they know they cant do any better.

Or could it be because none of us can be bothered to even try wasting our time on those songs?

Or better yet, we don't want to be even remotely thought of as trying to copy, mimic or even besting you? What's the point, you're too full of yourself to think someone could do better. Hell, you couldn't even figure out the DVD Footage guide on the org, you needed it in point form? Give me a break, what are you, 12? Can't read complete sentences or follow them?

And "who would care about [inverse telecine]"? Well, that would be those that actually understand what it does. That being changing the framerate back to 24fps from 30fps without losing quality. Since DVDs are almost always in 24fps, and most AMVs are editted in 30fps for simplicities sake with editting software. Since Premiere does not really like editting at 23.98fps. Basically inverse telecining takes your editted video and returns it 24fps to make it FILM again.

And we should worry about trying to do better then you? Why? You aren't nearly as good as you think you are. I will admit, you are a good editor, but there are a LOT of good editors on the org, but there are only a handful of excellent editors, and you do not make it into that cut. Though most of the people you seem to hate either fall in it, or are closer to it then you are. Perhaps that is why you hate them so much, because they are better then you?

Hell, you were quick to say my videos were the worst on the site, and I can sleep soundly knowing they aren't the worst, but they are far from the best. But then, you listed them simply in order of how they are in my profile, proving you couldn't even watch them yourself, it's hard to say they are the worst on the site if you never even bothered to watch them

Well, I think that safely covers that.

But to stay on topic. Yes its ok to use the same song/anime mix so long as you want to. Though you can expect people to judge your video harder if there are really good videos already using the song/anime combo since they will have them in their mind as they watch yours, looking to see if you could match the beats, lyrics and anything else as well as the others. I've yet to use the same song/anime combo as someone else, but I would think it would be a good challenge for an editor, to see if they could do better then someone else had, to strive to exceed a previous video with the same song/anime. So yeah, it's ok to do it, just know that some people won't like it as much as the next, but that goes for every video you make.

[Beowulf]

rofl Sammy is the new MadHatter.